RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,162614,00.html

Doesn't that bother any of you? Because it scares the living piss outta me!

guilty conscience?? Unless some one uses the technology to post unauthorized pics in the public domain, crooks beware.

Just assume you are under surveillance at all times and conduct yourself accordingly.
If you pick your nose......dont eat it.

SMILE! You're on Candid Camera!

Unless there are cameras in my bedroom watching me and my fiancee screw or a camera in my car taping me picking my nose, what do I have to be paranoid about? If you have nothing to hide, "Big Brother" aint watching you. And if they are, good. Let em pull me in based on faulty survelliance......a lawsuit like that, I can use the extra money.

I'm a law abiding citizen, so why should I be worried about being taped? I certainly have nothing to hide. As long as it remains in public and not in my home, it doesn't bother me.

nothing new been going on for years now.... just about every store you walk into has them everywhere.... the only real priveticy you have is your own private property... public property and business that want it are fair game ....

You have to ask yourself what is the purpose of this? THERE IS NONE. I do not support cameras on every corner, I do however support Law Enforcement personnel on every corner...

This is just conditioning, whats next electronic chips under your skin? Nothing to worry about, you're a not a criminal remember?

I will not fall for any of this garbage.

I saw a PSB special about cameras and our society being monitored. Sorry, can’t remember the name. The impression I got was it was all about selling time on the cameras and including satellite systems in order to track people. The cameras can be used by a business that sells you the time to track anyone or anything. Imagine tracking your teenager from the point they leave the house, following them through city intersection, through the malls and eventually to their final destination, which is not the library but their boyfriends or girlfriends house. Or tracking an employees and finding out where they go to on their lunchtime.
With any technology there is a good and a bad side. I can also see police monitoring a criminal/s or tracking a pervert and catching them with this technology. I also can picture a suspected terrorist landing in the United states and being tracked from the second he steps off the plane to every destination he/she goes to.

Technology is not good or bad it depends on how it is used.
What is going to be needed are very strict regulations on the technology and it’s use and that is where the scary part is. I don’t believe that the government is equipped to make the changes in law to the rate at which the technology is advancing. Corporations and individuals will get to the technology first most likely abuse and go for the money before the law steps in.

So what? How many times have accidents or criminal activities occured and there's no reliable witness? With these cameras crucial evidence can be pulled. Don't give me the "invading privacy" BS. People in general love attention - they post up videos on youtube, yap about private matters on cell phones in public, BS about everything in bars, etc. Cameras are also great for monitoring traffic flow. Traffic stops, someone could be dispatched to see what's going on. Don't worry, the cameras aren't there to watch you. They're there to watch the bad guy.

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:
You have to ask yourself what is the purpose of this? THERE IS NONE. I do not support cameras on every corner, I do however support Law Enforcement personnel on every corner...

This is just conditioning, whats next electronic chips under your skin? Nothing to worry about, you're a not a criminal remember?

I will not fall for any of this garbage.

they id criminals and suspects in crimes they also help resolve auto accidence at intersections... it is very effective ....in the little coumnity i live in we were talking about getting them installed but the prices were real high and maintenance and replacement of them were too costly ..... but i still think it is a good idea...

Last week I heard something that's gonna pizz off member Aco275 - that here in SoCal, a person can be in the zone of cameras up to something like 112 times a day. That includes all types of cameras: ATM, mini-mart, traffic, red-light, small stores/business, big stores like supermarkets, someone's cell phone/video cam, cop dash cams, etc. etc. What's a person gonna do about it?

I will not tolerate nor support a Federal Government program that mandates a big brother system, simple as that.

There is no need for, there is no outcry for it, there is NOTHING appealing about it.

I will not listen to the laughable excuses about "security" give me a damn break, how did Cold War era people ever make it?

Fear mongering will not sway this guy....Why not implant your children with a Federal Chip to track them through GPS? why not that?

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:
You have to ask yourself what is the purpose of this? THERE IS NONE. I do not support cameras on every corner, I do however support Law Enforcement personnel on every corner...

This is just conditioning, whats next electronic chips under your skin? Nothing to worry about, you're a not a criminal remember?

I will not fall for any of this garbage.

they id criminals and suspects in crimes they also help resolve auto accidence at intersections... it is very effective ....in the little coumnity i live in we were talking about getting them installed but the prices were real high and maintenance and replacement of them were too costly ..... but i still think it is a good idea...

Yaaay! Lets all chant the mantra of the terminally stupid........." You've nothing to fear if you've nothing to hide. You've nothing to fear if you've nothing to hide. "
Tell you what Outlaw, how about you give me your house keys so I can get a copy made. That way I can just let myself in now and again, unannounced, and take a look around.... Under your bed, on top of the wardrobe, in that drawer you keep locked, you know. just to make sure you have nothing to hide. Maybe take a look at you bank balance, incomings and outgoings, private savings, what books and magazines you read, your phone book to see who your friends are, your computer to see what sites you visit....... Aw c'mon Outlaw, after all, if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear, right?

Stupid anecdote. How is a person passing through a camera zone comparable to you allowing a stranger to snoop into your private possesion? Now I feel much better about all existing and new cameras, they'll be there to piss all of you off.

it scares the **** out of me too and i'm a CJ student .....
Rita

The argument that if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide is not a valid argument here.

What is a valid argument is the fact that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. No one is breaking any laws or violating any Constitutional rights by video taping you in public. If it is a business that is taping you, stop frequenting that business if you don't like it. If it is law enforcement or government, they should not be allowed to use the video for anything other than its intended purpose (i.e. determining if you ran a red light or identifying criminal behavior) and I'm sure that is their policy.

Those that make the leap from these videos to "implanting a microchip" are just conspiracy theorists that have nothing on which to base their fears/claims.

If you have a reason against these cameras, other than because you don't like it, go ahead and present it. Otherwise, you are just complaining.

SCOUTS OUT!

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Originally posted by RCcav:
The argument that if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide is not a valid argument here.

What is a valid argument is the fact that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. No one is breaking any laws or violating any Constitutional rights by video taping you in public. If it is a business that is taping you, stop frequenting that business if you don't like it. If it is law enforcement or government, they should not be allowed to use the video for anything other than its intended purpose (i.e. determining if you ran a red light or identifying criminal behavior) and I'm sure that is their policy.

Those that make the leap from these videos to "implanting a microchip" are just conspiracy theorists that have nothing on which to base their fears/claims.

If you have a reason against these cameras, other than because you don't like it, go ahead and present it. Otherwise, you are just complaining.

SCOUTS OUT!

O.K., I just don't like it, it reminds me of "Big Brother". We have satellites watching us by day and by night and quite frankly, I envy those of the pre satellite days. I mean, you could look into the heavens and see just stars and the moon, no one looking back, least that we know of, if you are into that sort of thing...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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Originally posted by RCcav:
The argument that if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide is not a valid argument here.

What is a valid argument is the fact that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. No one is breaking any laws or violating any Constitutional rights by video taping you in public. If it is a business that is taping you, stop frequenting that business if you don't like it. If it is law enforcement or government, they should not be allowed to use the video for anything other than its intended purpose (i.e. determining if you ran a red light or identifying criminal behavior) and I'm sure that is their policy.

Those that make the leap from these videos to "implanting a microchip" are just conspiracy theorists that have nothing on which to base their fears/claims.

If you have a reason against these cameras, other than because you don't like it, go ahead and present it. Otherwise, you are just complaining.

SCOUTS OUT!

O.K., I just don't like it, it reminds me of "Big Brother". We have satellites watching us by day and by night and quite frankly, I envy those of the pre satellite days. I mean, you could look into the heavens and see just stars and the moon, no one looking back, least that we know of, if you are into that sort of thing...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

And it is perfectly fine for you to have that opinion. I just hate folks that claim their rights are being violated when they are not. Now, as soon as they start intruding on a place where you do have a reasonable right to privacy, I will be right up there screaming with the rest of you.

SCOUTS OUT!

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Originally posted by RCcav:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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Originally posted by RCcav:
The argument that if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide is not a valid argument here.

What is a valid argument is the fact that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. No one is breaking any laws or violating any Constitutional rights by video taping you in public. If it is a business that is taping you, stop frequenting that business if you don't like it. If it is law enforcement or government, they should not be allowed to use the video for anything other than its intended purpose (i.e. determining if you ran a red light or identifying criminal behavior) and I'm sure that is their policy.

Those that make the leap from these videos to "implanting a microchip" are just conspiracy theorists that have nothing on which to base their fears/claims.

If you have a reason against these cameras, other than because you don't like it, go ahead and present it. Otherwise, you are just complaining.

SCOUTS OUT!

O.K., I just don't like it, it reminds me of "Big Brother". We have satellites watching us by day and by night and quite frankly, I envy those of the pre satellite days. I mean, you could look into the heavens and see just stars and the moon, no one looking back, least that we know of, if you are into that sort of thing...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

And it is perfectly fine for you to have that opinion. I just hate folks that claim their rights are being violated when they are not. Now, as soon as they start intruding on a place where you do have a reasonable right to privacy, I will be right up there screaming with the rest of you.

SCOUTS OUT!

I don't like 'em in locker rooms and in the stalls in the head either. I like the fact that they put doors on stalls in the rest rooms, I personally like a little privacy while I'm leaving a deuce...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81