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During the Battle of the Bulge, Germany made use of soldiers who spoke English in an effort to disrupt the American rear areas. These soldiers wore American uniforms.
When they were captured they were executed. No lawyers, no hearings. |
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Yup, that's how you win a war. |
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Some of it had to do with what GIs found in a field near Malmedy - -
But I lived 2 years in Germany as a soldier, with my wife and son, 1971-73. We lived in a little apartment 2 bedroom home which we rented from a former U-boat crewman and his wife. They treated us as their own children. They babied our year-old son as if he were royalty. When the Mark rose in value, they lowered our rent so we would not have to move back on Post. The whole neighbor treated my wife wonderfully when I was deployed in the field several months at a time. They did so because they were so glad we Americans where there to keep the Russian communists out - - The Germans had learned their lesson, I think - Wandering and Wondering |
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It definitely couldn’t have been because they were nice people, right?  "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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In conversation, I asked them how they felt about having Americans still in their country after nearly 30 years. A lot of GIs were absolute azzholes, drinking and fighting, getting in car wrecks, trying to jump everything with a skirt, using more and more drugs - there were a lot of reasons the Germans could have hated us - but invariably the answer from our landlord and neighbors was that they appreciated our presence because they knew it gave them protection from communism, and they were willing to bear the bad behavior of a few to have us there. We intentionally lived 10 miles from post, because GIs had pretty much worn out their welcome in any of the little towns and gasthauses that were closer - - So, to put it simple, you can shove the sarcasm in your question right to where the sun doesn't shine! To tell you the truth, the Germans in that neighborhood treated us better than any neighbors we've had before or since in the USA. Americans everywhere could learn a little from the people of Holtzheim - - Wandering and Wondering |
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Myth, Skorzeny's Operation "Grief" had Very, Very few Landsers who were Fluent in American English, most of "Einheit Stielau" were able to mumble a Phrase or two. 18 were Captured and Excuted after Drum Head Courts-Martial and executed by Firing Squad . Their American Tanks were Panthers with sheetmetal "Vismods" to make them appear as M10 Tank Destroyers(didnt work). |
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The Krauts lost! |
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There are lousy people everywhere, but when you choose people of another country over your own, well, you're a disgusting pile of ...... And, I'm sick of people saying we could learn from these other countries. Yeah, I want to learn from them. |
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That is exactly what I experienced while stationed in Germany, and was told the same thing almost word to word. |
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I had the pleasure of taking 3 trips with Will Cavanaugh. The 45th Anniversary of D-Day, the 45th Anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge and then back to Belgium the next summer (when it wasn't so damned cold). Each trip was filled with facts, history, reflection and a greater understanding of the "human sacrifice" and emotions involved in war. These are some of the memories that I will treasure forever. Thanks Will!
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60 day suspension for Verbal/disruptive posts attacking the integrity of US military. 4/19/2009 by OldArmyLove |
racial slurs are generally not cool. |
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60 day suspension for Verbal/disruptive posts attacking the integrity of US military. 4/19/2009 by OldArmyLove |
What a bizarre sentiment. You don't choose the country you're born in (what I assume you mean by "your own [country]"). Why should I feel any particular allegiance to America just by virtue of having been born here? Why should those Germans feel any particular allegiance to Germany just by virtue of having been born there? |
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I hope your not serious. That would be a ethnic/cultural slur and yet another example of rules being warped to silence a opinion. I'd have a real hard time believing a Moderator would take offense to the terms "Krauts" or "Japs". Both were common in WWII and are acceptable speech today, in my opinion. We have World War II Veterans on this website as well as survivors of them that use both interchageably. The term "g**k" from Vietnam would be a term that would not be acceptable, however. Since it is racially tinged towards one group in particular. "Nips" might be borderline because it is short for Nipponese or Japaneese. Analogous to "Japs" in my book but some take offense to it. Just a FYI. |
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Our net-nanny used to *** out the word Jap. At least, it did to me a couple of times. |
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I'd be curious to know why US staff officers were taken on a ride exploring the German side of that battle instead of the US side.
Not saying that's a bad thing, just wondering why. |
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COMMENT: Not completely accurate. My father served in the Battle of the Bulge, and he and some others actually captured some of these "bogus" MPs. |
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COMMENT: By the way, "g o o k" is a derisive derivative of the Korean name, Han G o o k, for part of the peninsula used to describe the local inhabitants. |
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Yep. Pretty dang hard to make a deisel sound and smell like a gasoline engine. Our tracks were sprung differently and German track made a distinctive noise. |
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I always kind of saw it this way, If they had tried to kill you, you were entitled to call whatever. I can understand someone taking offense at MY use of Jap, or Kraut, or Limey, or Frog or whatever. Hadji though? That's mine. I'll use it whenever I feel it applies. |
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