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RE: http://forums.military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/add...tures?ESRC=navy-a.nl

It's nice that the Vietnam era vets can get a G.I. Bill upgrade. But when will we poor suckers who joined under VEAP, and were told we could start our educational benefits "at any time" during active duty. Get the G.I. Bill?
 
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RE: http://forums.military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/add...tures?ESRC=navy-a.nl

It's nice that the Vietnam era vets can get a G.I. Bill upgrade. But when will we poor suckers who joined under VEAP, and were told we could start our educational benefits "at any time" during active duty. Get the G.I. Bill?


Vietnam War era vets had 10 years from the date of their discharge to start using their education benefits. After that, they are forfeited.

Since it has been way past 10 years, I do not believe any Vietnam War era veteran has any military connected education benefits left unless they retired less than 10 years ago.
 
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My spouse called the VA about this program and they don't endorse it, never heard of it. In one nut shell, "if it's not on a gov web site, don't believe it". So, military.com, what's this all about with this expanded Vietnam-era Veteran Benefits article?
 
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I ORGINALLY SAID THAT I DIDNT WANT THE MGIB, WAY BACK IN 1994 (BIG MISTAKE)AND WAS CURIOUS WITH ALL THE NEW CHANGES OCCURING IN THE PROGRAM DOES MY ELIGIBILITY CHANGE OR AM I FOREVER LOCKED OUT OF THE SYSTEM?
 
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It's bad enough the transferability option only applies to active duty servicemembers...now the Army restricts it to only critical career fields? Absurd...
I used Tuitions Assistance to earn an AAS, a BS and two MAS degrees while on active duty, have no intentions of pursuing a PhD, have 28 months of GI Bill benefit remaining and a son entering college in the Fall. The government has no problem throwing billions of our tax dollars to undeserving CEOs who have failed miserably at running their respective companies, yet I can't get my entitlement to help put my son through college. How about instead of taking my tax dollars to pay the golden parachutes of these idiots, I get a reprieve from paying taxes to apply it toward my son's education? "Our" priorities are screwed up...
 
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Originally posted by 7133416:
I ORGINALLY SAID THAT I DIDNT WANT THE MGIB, WAY BACK IN 1994 (BIG MISTAKE)AND WAS CURIOUS WITH ALL THE NEW CHANGES OCCURING IN THE PROGRAM DOES MY ELIGIBILITY CHANGE OR AM I FOREVER LOCKED OUT OF THE SYSTEM?


Your eligibiliy changes IF you served after 10 Sept 2001 - I also did not take the VEAP when I joined in 1981, did not elect to signed up for MGIB in 1991 (last buy in period to switch from VEAP to MGIB) but I do qualify for the 80% rate of the new Post 9/11 GI Bill as I served from 10 Sept 2001 to 31 March 2004. For those of us not smart enough to sign up for VEAP or MGIB this is a good deal. I told both the MEPS/Recruiters and Education Counselors that I had no use for college and didn't want to pay into an education program - wanted the money for booze, partying, etc in 1981 and had a wife and two young children in 1991 to support, lol. really had my priorites straight back then.


All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity.
 
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Originally posted by 10461735:
RE: http://forums.military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/add...tures?ESRC=navy-a.nl

It's nice that the Vietnam era vets can get a G.I. Bill upgrade. But when will we poor suckers who joined under VEAP, and were told we could start our educational benefits "at any time" during active duty. Get the G.I. Bill?


KEY words here are "at any time during active duty" are you still on active duty? also you could use your VEAP entitlements up to 10 years after seperation. Did you pay into VEAP?

Eligibility for the new Post 9/11 GI Bill is based on service on active duty on and after 10 Sept 2001. If you served on or after - you would probably qualify for some portion of the new Post 9/11 GI Bill - doesn't matter if you paid into MGIB or VEAP.


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Originally posted by BP0827:
It's bad enough the transferability option only applies to active duty servicemembers...now the Army restricts it to only critical career fields? Absurd...
I used Tuitions Assistance to earn an AAS, a BS and two MAS degrees while on active duty, have no intentions of pursuing a PhD, have 28 months of GI Bill benefit remaining and a son entering college in the Fall. The government has no problem throwing billions of our tax dollars to undeserving CEOs who have failed miserably at running their respective companies, yet I can't get my entitlement to help put my son through college. How about instead of taking my tax dollars to pay the golden parachutes of these idiots, I get a reprieve from paying taxes to apply it toward my son's education? "Our" priorities are screwed up...


NOW THE ARMY RESTRICTS IT TO ONLY CRITICAL CAREER FIELDS - they always have since the program started in 2005 -- Army soldiers have to give up part of their entitlement to their Selective Reenlistment Bonus (SRB) to elect to transfer MGIB to their spouse/dependants. This is a recruiting/retention incentive program. The Air Force did offer the program for a year - several years ago - and so few took advanage of it that the Air Force ended the program. The Navy/Marines never offered this program to any of their service members.

While I totally agree with your desire to transfer your 28 months of entitlement to your son - this is only going to happen under the current program (MGIB) if you are active duty Army and reenlist for 4 more years and are entitled to an SRB and agree to give up part of the SRB.

BUT wait until Department of Defense announces the rules for the new Post 9/11 GI Bill before you start screaming and hollering - Yes DoD will controll/establish the rules for transferability to spouse/dependants - not the Dept. of VA. and they only have control over active duty programs - so us veterans are totally out of the program.


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