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RE: http://forums.military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/gi-bill-faq
I lost my MGIB from not using it, however, my husband is trying to use his. He has been in college one year and after 2 months MGIB stopped sending checks for the college. They sent a letter saying they over paid us 750$ and they want us to pay it back before they send any more checks. Well the school year finished and we cant get them to send the rest of the year's monthly payments to the college because they made a mistake and over paid us. WHY cant they just adjust the next payment of the MGIB to reflect the change. Why is this such a hard thing for the MGIB people to do?! This is outrageous and we are so frustrated and cant even continue the 2nd year now because of this hold up. We are very angry and upset about this and they arent trying to do anything but get money from us. The money we got from them originally went to the college and we dont have that money. Has anyone dealt with this ridicuious situation too, or do you know how to fix it so we can get the rest of the first years money to the college and then start the 2nd year??? Desperately need help. |
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This happens. Regardless of who dropped the ball, your husband will have to pay back the over payment in order to get any future benefits.
Talk to them about making payments. He may be able to work something out if he loses the hostile attitude when dealing with them and shows them that he accepts responsibility to repay the overpayment, and then get it done. Your husband needs to demonstrate that his education is more important than the benefits. Too many people are not as serious about completing their education as they are about getting the benefits. He needs to show them that he focused on his education and not the financial benefits of the monthly allotment. Take out a Stafford student loan or local temporary loan and get started on the second year. Once he has paid tuition and resumed his education, he MIGHT be able to have the allotments reduced to repay the overpayment when he can show that he paid for and took classes that are covered by his MGIB. That MAY be considered as an underpayment. However, they may still require repayment of the overpayment before resuming his allotment and reimbursing him for the underpayment. This is what my son did when he faced the same thing. He took out a 90-day temporary loan through the financial aid office on campus to pay his tuition and used the reimbursement to repay that loan. It is not the Catch-22 issue it looks like. Remember, you are dealing with government bean counters and the books have to be balanced. Once that is done, the benefits will resume. Good luck. |
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I received a letter on my 10th year stating that I was no longer receiveing benefits, when I called and ask why? They mentioned that your ten years starts when you are out of active duty and some reason I was under the pressumtion that it was ten years after you discharged. So to say the least, It should be pointed out more specificly about when the ten years starts. It sucks not getting that money and having to rely on school loans.
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I need a few answers if anyone can help me.
I used all my Active Duty (Chapter 30, I think)benefits getting my undergraduate degree. Now I am in the Reserve, just reenlisted for 6 more years. I would like to know if I can use the Reserve GI Bill. Or is there some sort of lifetime limit on the benefits available to a veteran? Anyone know? Thanks. |
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Posted Wed 16 July 2008 07:01 AM Hide Post
I need a few answers if anyone can help me. I used all my Active Duty (Chapter 30, I think)benefits getting my undergraduate degree. Now I am in the Reserve, just reenlisted for 6 more years. I would like to know if I can use the Reserve GI Bill. Or is there some sort of lifetime limit on the benefits available to a veteran? Rainman: Go to your reserve unit's education officer and get a Notice of Basic Eligibility (NOBE) to verify your reserve contract gets you eligibility for Chapter 1606 benefits. Once you have the NOBE take it to the Veterans Certifying Official (VCO) of the school you are/wish to attend. The VCO will help you from there. FellowVet |
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15430817 : As a vet who had a repayment levied against myself and as a former veterans certifying official (VCO) at a school, there seems to be more to your husband's story than is being shared here. The DVA only pays what the school certifies a vet for. It is possible that the school may have mis-certifed your husband for more credits than he was eligible for but could it be possible that he changed or reduced his enrollment after being certified/paid? If I uderstand your letter your husband was enrolled in a year (9-12 months of school) but only received two months of benefits? Has he spoken with the cetifying official at the school about this or the State Approving Agency that approves and oversees the schools for the DVA in that state? When I got overpaid for three months of benefits (my fault and ths school's fault for being in enrolled/certified in courses that did not apply to an approved program of study) I worked out a deal whereby I recieved half-benfits for six months. Ask your VCO and SAA and the DVA if this is workable. If all else fails ask your congressman/womand to intervene (it has worked for me in the past). FellowVet |
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Posted Wed 20 February 2008 08:58 AM Hide Post I received a letter on my 10th year stating that I was no longer receiveing benefits, when I called and ask why? They mentioned that your ten years starts when you are out of active duty and some reason I was under the pressumtion that it was ten years after you discharged. So to say the least, It should be pointed out more specificly about when the ten years starts. It sucks not getting that money and having to rely on school loans. Posts: 1 | Registered: Wed 20 February 2008 Moose: All vets, reserves and dependents who apply for and receive education benefits are issued a Certificate of Eligibility from the DVA. It lists the maximum allowed benefits they are eligible for, the monthly benfit they can expect (based on full-time enrollment) and the delimiting date when the benefits expire. I recieved one and everyone else I know that used the GI Bill got one as well. What is your definition of discharge and how is that different from being released from active duty? I think the two (for DVA puposes) are the same. FellowVet |
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the parent article for this thread states that if you go back on active duty for 90+ days your ten years starts over. I was active duty for 11.5 years then transferred to the NG. shortly after I was Deployed for 18 months. Did my ten years start over when I got off active duty the second time or do I only have 6 years left.
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Moderator, Veteran's Education MSG, USA (Ret),School Certifying Official  |
The maximum combined va federal education benefits you may use is 48 months. If you have used your 36 months of entitlement under Chapter 30, you should receive 12 months of entitlement under either Chapter 1606 MGIB-Sr or if you were deployed for a contingency operation while in the reserves you may qualify for Chapter 1607 REAP. A quick call to 1-888-442-4551 will clarify this for you. Alan All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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1. VA may forgive debts/overpayments IF the student has mitigateing circumstances - Did your spouse submit an appeal or a mitagateing circumstances statement?
2. VA debts/overpayments are usually caused by students dropping classes - Is this the situation here? When a student drops a class, VA can either stop entilements effective the day the student withdrew or effective the 1st day of the class. Its all on a case by case basis and depends greatly on the information the student provides in the appeal/mitigating circumstaces statement.
All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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I'm hoping someone can clear this up for me or point me in the right direction.
I was discharged for pregnancy in 2004, after 17 months of service. I've since misplaced my DD214, but I do know that my code allowed me to reenlist with a waiver stating I was no longer pregnant. I was under the impression that because I didn't serve 24 months I was not eligible to use my GI Bill. Does the new bill change this? My understanding is that a medical discharge for pregnancy is honorable. If this does change things, how do I get the ball rolling? Thanks in advance. |
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Moderator, Veteran's Education MSG, USA (Ret),School Certifying Official |
efnprincess - Under the new Ch33 bill you might be entitled to the 60% coverage. Best thing to do is wait until they start allowing applications to be submitted, then apply. They will send you a certificate of eligibility explaining what you will be entitled to. Applications will be found here
 when they open up the applications process) http://www.gibill.va.gov/ Basic eligibility for the new GI Bill(from the Post9/11 Factsheet): Am I Eligible? You may be eligible if you served at least 90 aggregate days on active duty after September 10, 2001, and you are still on active duty or were honorably-- - discharged from the active duty; or - released from active duty and placed on the retired list or temporary disability retired list; or - released from active duty and transferred to the Fleet Reserve or Fleet Marine Corps Reserve; or - released from the active duty for further service in a reserve component of the Armed Forces. You may also be eligible if you were honorably discharged from active duty for a service-connected disability and you served 30 continuous days after September 10, 2001 All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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"Cool Breeze" |
Thanks for the info RRC.
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Hello All,
I served in the Army and Army Reserve (92-00). Anyway, never been able to get my GI bill. Still trying. No idea why not. Too many restrictions, rules and regulations. It also is complicated since the people at the College can not seem to give you any straight answers either. Eventually gave up on the whole GI Bill thing. By the time Uncle Sam gets around to keeping his promises I'd be old and grey. Got an overseas scholarship and thanks to a foriegn university became a Civil Engineer with a postgrad diploma as a bonus. They also helped me out with expenses during 5 years of study and were impressed with my service in the US Army. Imagine that, the UK helping me out because I was American and served in the US Army but the US Government never getting around to actually paying for a single class here in the USA. Wow. I loved serving my country and all that and that is fine. But to all those who think serving means getting some kind of recognition or help. Don't know about that. In my experiences not really, unless you count the UK. What a weird world we live in now. Anyway, hope those bozos on Capital Hill get the stick out of their butts and actually give those who served what they deserve (not just the GI Bill but Disability and everything else). In my opinion the GI Bill outght to be automatic; if you servered and have a proper discharge then all you ought to do is go to a college tell them your Social Security number, punch into the admissions computer and BAM! Paid! What is the issue? If they can bail out banks, car companies, mortgage brokers and so forth then I'm pretty sure they can bother to pay for college and university educations of ex-soldiers. And what is with this bs about paying into it or not paying into it and blah blah blah. If you served in my opinion then you paid into it. Cheap military can't even give you a free haircut. Anyway, proud to serve, but disgusted with the treatment of vets and I do not recogmend service to anyone other than those who want the experience and simply to serve. Because a whole lot of us are getting regulated and ruled right out of any benefits we thought we had. Thanks. |
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Moderator, Veteran's Education MSG, USA (Ret),School Certifying Official |
Did you try contacting the VA directly since the college was giving you the run around? Pick up the phone and call 1-888-442-4551, at the first recorded message, press 1, at the second recorded message press 0. This will get you to a VA rep. who will be happy to answer your questions, tell you what documents you need to send in, etc.
Remember, the government thrives on paperwork. Also different people qualify for different programs and different incentives were offered to enlistees different years depending on how many years and what MOS they enlisted for. Also different programs for active, veterans who were active, guard and reserve, and Disabled American Veterans (DAV)(VOC REHAB). All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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Don't take this wrong, but I don't understand what's so hard about this?
I mean, I'm a student, I expended my GI Bill benefits (Chapter 30) in total about a year ago. I'm still a student because of my choice in classes. I've gone to two schools, had the overpayment issue, dropped classes, changed majors twice, and had questions about qualifications for even getting the money. It hasn't been a big furball. When there were problems, I started with the school's Veteran's rep and then called the VA. Both schools (in Arizona) had ways to allow an initial payment delay because of how the VA works. I also--through FAFSA--qualified for additional grants and occasionally loans. It's simple. Read the crap they send you. Ask questions. Know what your situation is. Be polite. And, if you think you're not being listened to or are getting bad info, ask for a supervisor. And, as far as the 10-year limit issue, 10 year limit minus 4 years for the degree means you need to be starting at most 6 years from when you stop having to salute people with shiny things on their uniforms. If you do that--and your school has the right schedule--you can be a year off on your guess and still get 36 months of benefits and classes. (It means taking Spring, Fall, Summer AND Winter classes... but you can do it.). *shrugs* |
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WOW, how hard is it to do an online application. That's all you need to do to get the ball rolling. It's my considered opinion that most folks who get turned down for education benefits were turned down for a good reason. Like maybe they don't qualify for any number of reasons like no honorable service or insufficient time in service. |
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You get a fresh 10 years to use your chapter 30 education benefit from the day you were released from being mobilized. |
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Where would I look this up to verify it? |
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Moderator, Veteran's Education MSG, USA (Ret),School Certifying Official |
You get a fresh 10 years to use your chapter 30 education benefit from the day you were released from being mobilized.[/QUOTE]
Where would I look this up to verify it?[/QUOTE] Why on the VA Question and Answers web site of course: https://www.gibill2.va.gov/vba/vba.cfg/php.exe/enduser/...**&p_li=&p_topview=1 All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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sorry, sscrewed up sending the last post, please read below.
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Hello, my question is when will we be able to let our dependents use are GI Bill, and when can we start filling out the request form so our child can use the GI Bill? Why is it taking so long and is it going to be ready in Auguest like planed. I spent 20 plus years in and I would like to sign my GI Bill over to my daughter. I thought you all are sopossed to take care of the VET, I don't see it yet.
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You all need to stop misleading the Vet's and start taking care of us. We served our county now you all need to serve us.
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Moderator, Veteran's Education MSG, USA (Ret),School Certifying Official |
1. This is a forum. It belongs to a private organization. Not the Dept. of Veterans Affairs, Not the Dept. of Defense. 2. The people who run the forum and those who volunteer their personal time to help their fellow veterans are not misleading anyone. Neither is the Dept. of Veterans Affairs, nor the Dept. of Defense. 3. So "At Ease" in here SSG and write your Congress Representitives and air your complaints about your problems to them. If you VOTE, you elected THEM to serve you but you served the American people. 4. Be part of the solution by joining the VFW and DAV and other great Veterans Service Organizations. Signed a Retired Master Sergeant, 24 years United States Army. This message has been edited. Last edited by: RetiredCareerCounsel, All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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Moderator, Veteran's Education MSG, USA (Ret),School Certifying Official |
Back up and regroup the attitude dude. This is a privately ran forum. I don't know who you think is sopossed to be taking care of you and how. But this a forum setup up to assist veterans and service members. The people who are posting the questions and answers in here are your fellow servicemen and servicewomen and are either veterans or on active duty. If you are still on Active Duty (like your profile says) then you will more than likely be able to do the paperwork to transfer some of your education benefits to your daughter this summer. Dept. of Defense is working on the rules/regulations right now. Just keep checking with your Career Counselor. If you are a Veteran (like you refer to yourself), you can not transfer you benefits to your daughter. It's not allowed under the current law. Don't like it? Write your congress person - they made the law - not anyone at this forum or the Dept. of Veterans Affairs. And only Congress can change this law. All opinions I express on this web site are as a private individual. I am not representing my employer in any shape, means, form, manner or in any official capacity. |
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I got out of the Marines in oct of 85-89 as E- 4. I paid $1200.00 for the GI bill, but I never used, do you or how do you get the inital $1200.00 back, or can I give to my daughter to use. <<MOD Note - email removed>>
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I don't believe they do that for either the post-9/11 or MGIB. You may want to contact the VA directly to find out what version of the GI Bill you are/were covered with and whether it's a possibility.
This is the appropriate site to contact the VA and ask them: https://www.gibill2.va.gov/vba...e/enduser/index.html Good luck. |
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There is a ten year limit to use your GI Bill. That would expire this year. Your where told when you contributed that the $1,200 was not refundable. There was no transferability in the GI Bill at that time, and even if there was your benefits have expired. |
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Given the dates, I didn't know if he was a VEAP or Montgomery GI Bill. I think the VEAP rules are different, so I didn't specify the 10 year limit. Still, can't hurt to ask VA given all the recent changes.
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