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Seems a little too quite in the neighborhood.
Let's try this: By the mark 10! By the deep 16! What is the mark at 10? What information might the reports tell the conning officer? Where does the Leadsman heave the lead? What is the connection to S. L. Clemens? |
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"Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?" - Gordon Lightfoot |
I always felt the leadlines on the cutters were about a useful as knowing about oars or sails.
I practiced with it several times per our BMC while the Chase, WHEC-718 pulled into port. It all seemed pretty useless unless the cutter is crawling along clutching in and out of gear. Like they're going to go with that over a fathometer reading.  "Watch on watch, lead's in motion.....lead's away!" Don |
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circle with a hole in the middle
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Circle with hole in it.
Depth of water at sea level From the chains Mark Twain Arming the lead was a means of telling what kind of bottom you had. |
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"Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?" - Gordon Lightfoot |
With tallow if my memory is correct. Don |
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That's true, Don. I've gone from using pinging on ocean stations to the flashing to the digital machines. Small boats in the Coast Guard relied on lead lines before electronics became common. Give me digital. Lead lines are a thing of the past. Nice to know about. |
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Right-on. |
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Dont forget the White/Lead I swang that dam lead line for an hour as we entered Montevideo, Uruguay while I was on the POLAR SEA...we were in the mud the whole way in, but after 4 months at sea, we could not be stopped. |
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It will feel good after it stops hurting. |
I think i was the last BM to qual on the leadline on the CGC Tampa. I liked doing it. I wouldn't swing it though, only take the reading.
-BM2.5 sends |
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Circle with hole in it.
Depth of water at sea level From the chains Mark Twain Tallow or Beeswax is used to fill the bottom notch of the lead for telling ocean bottom types.Have not used a leadline since I was a Bm3 on CGC Confidence WMEC-619 in 2003,great tool for a Bm but pretty much usless with all the available technology these days. BM3/2/3Albo |
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Right on. Nice to know the leadline is still being used.
I'll take a digital sounder above all others. |
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we actually broke one out at the station to give some training with one time to some new crewman and others who never had the chance.... its amazing how some older methods are so well forgotten, but yet still useful in many ways.
-Nasty |
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Well imo I feel that it isn't forgetting the past or people not being salty enough. It's technology getting better and it is true after 15 yrs I have purposely used a lead line,,,,,,0. It's good to be aware of it but it is antiquated by it's replacement, the side scan? I was shown a depth sounder that was so good you could see the traps on the bottom. The CG isn't getting those anytime soon
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I'm currently on the CGC Aspen (WLB-208), we actually use the lead line quite often. On some of our shallower buoys we will launch the small boat and do depth soundings with it. It's great training for the younger BM's.
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I used one while stationed on the Red Cedar (WLM-688), used it to check out areas for mooring when underway. If tallow or beeswax wasn’t available you could use peanut butter.
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Still use the leadline on one of the newest cutters in the fleet, a 175 WLM going into our ice hull storage pier up the Potomac. I even taught it to Cadets when on EAGLE. Even got the DC to read the thing!
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