We have a burning question on my ship. Since the stinger is only authorized for the CO, some BM's say that you say "aboard" or "ashore" in lieu when they step on or off. The XO says no. We have looked in NTP 13 and it doesn't say so either way. Any one have any info? It seems like half a pipe without it...

The stinger indicates the CO is aboard so you do not pipe aboard or ashore.

Back in the day-30 years ago- the QMOW would pipe "(ship's name) arriving", then "(ship's name)aboard". When leaving; "(ship's name)departing". I think this was to alert the Executive Officer and other officers.

I don't recall anyone, except the Commanding Officer, being announced this way.

Maybe someone with current experience can help.

Please help me with "stinger". What is it?

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Originally posted by sanrayo:
Back in the day-30 years ago- the QMOW would pipe "(ship's name) arriving", then "(ship's name)aboard". When leaving; "(ship's name)departing". I think this was to alert the Executive Officer and other officers.

I don't recall anyone, except the Commanding Officer, being announced this way.

Maybe someone with current experience can help.

I think you are correct....but add Admirals as in "District 7 arriving" or something along those lines. The memory's pretty much shot now 24 yrs since my days on a cutter.

Don

On a ship it was proper courtesy to announce any Commanding Officer by the name of his command as he arrived and departed, whether on his own command or another.

I’ve never heard the term “stinger”. Could it be a reference to the 3rd substitute?

"Ships name Arriving"

"Ships name departing"

The stinger just signifies when they have crossed the brow...My CO will sometimes give a 5 minute warning before departing for any last minute business...then we pipe him as departing and when he comes down and crosses the brow we give him the stinger (one ding of the bell)

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On a ship it was proper courtesy to announce any Commanding Officer by the name of his command as he arrived and departed, whether on his own command or another.

Pretty much the way I recall it also,
XXX Arriving
XXX Departing - end of pomp and ceremony for the old man coming to work

About the early 1980s this additional pipe of XXX aboard or XXX ashore started to creep in as an additional flourish. As I asked around, no one at the time could give any reference as to where it originated. Some 378 CO with a flair for the spectacular ??

Would keep a running joke with the Quartermaster, Pass the word,
XXX in the parking spot,
XXX getting out of his car ,
XXX getting close to the brow,
XXX arriving, and on and on til he reached the quarterdeck.

Who knows, it may all be codified and gospel now through general usage over the years.

Right at NTP-13
(2) Announce the person's short title, using the same format as
Example:
(a) Commander, Cruiser-Destroyer Group 6...."CRUDESGRU
SIX, ARRIVING"
(b) Commander, Naval Base Charleston........"NAVBASE
CHARLESTON, DEPARTING
(c) Commanding Officer, USS BELKNAP........."BELKNAP, ARRIVING"
(3) A single tone is then sounded as the embarked Commander, Chief
of Staff, Chief Staff Officer, or Commanding Officer steps on the ship when
arriving, or on the bow when departing.

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Originally posted by USCGBM96:
(3) A single tone is then sounded as the embarked Commander, Chief
of Staff, Chief Staff Officer, or Commanding Officer steps on the ship when
arriving, or on the bow when departing.

that single tone is what we refer to as the "stinger"

Do you bell strikes or tones according to rank, "Ship" arriving, the when onboard one last tone (stinger). That is for the CO only. All others will be tones or bells according to rank. No one but the CO should receive a stinger.

When our XO made CDR we had to pipe him oboard and that was just 4 tones and CDR, USCG arriving.

Do you strike the ship's bell on the hour and half-hour?

TrueBM2
Another one for CG mythbusters. I too at one time thought that only the CO gets a 'stinger' until I worked in the NAV shop on the Polar Sea. As as stated below:
A single tone is then sounded as the embarked Commander, Chief
of Staff, Chief Staff Officer, or Commanding Officer steps on the ship when
arriving, or on the bow when departing

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When our XO made CDR we had to pipe him oboard and that was just 4 tones and CDR, USCG arriving.

VERY COMMON MISPERCEPTION from the wardrrom that accession to the "Senior Officer" grades entitles a person them to be 'dinged' aboard. The same page of NTP-13 referenced above clearly says VISITING O-6/5 not in command roles are announced __________. Key word is VISITING. So - you don't announce your XO at all, and yes just about everybody, except the non-command O-6/5 gets the stinger. CH 12 of NTP is a short one - one page. Take a look at it.

Mightyz,

The entire crew knew, but who is going to tell the XO no? Not me as a SA/SN/BM3.....

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A single tone is then sounded as the <b>EMBARKED</b> Commander, Chief
of Staff, Chief Staff Officer, or Commanding Officer steps on the ship when
arriving, or on the bow when departing

The key here as I read it here, is that the Commander is not an O-5, but rather a posistion, such as commander of the whatever fleet who has embarked aboard whatever flagship for some weird navy excercises. Sometimes I think NTP-13 "reads like stereo instructions"

Don't forget about CG Regs. NTP 13 and CG Regs should be used together. Good stuff

anyone look in the BJM
if my memory serves me right should explain it in their also if you can get your hands on a BM vol.1 navy book
or the seaman apprentice book