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I have soooo much information on lincoln's life history. I don't hate the man but this guy killed our way of life, our constitution and our belief's in the definition of love of country, support our troops and American history. He was a great man in our history, (as killers of Americans) while he was in office he got more Americans killed in the line of duty than all wars America has ever fought, (and hopefully ever will fight). This alone should tell you folks something. This man was Ruthless and had no conscience what-so-ever.

I’m in the process of creating a website that will have a dedicated portion on Voo-Coo’s of pages concerning Lincoln and his…shall we say doings, for lack of better words. I’m no writer but I like to get a point across even if I have to go to the faaaaaar ends of the world to do it. The following is a small excerpt of this Honest Abe’s activities. Soon, in the near future you’ll be eradicated of former government schooling and teachings the government made you listen to and burn into your adolescent brain that I’m having such a hard time trying to, shall we say reverse the brainwash cycle burnt there in your tender years??? Some folk may call it De-briefing. Call it what you want but the truth is in our hands and the truth shall be known folks. Hope I don’t get anyone POed but Sht happens. Here’s a little quote…

“Jaffa thinks that he and Lincoln have, between them, demolished the case for secession. Far from it. To make their case, both of them have had to misread the American founding documents, especially the Declaration of Independence.

What, exactly, did the Declaration of Independence declare to be independent? Thirteen states — “free and independent states.” Now in 1776 and long afterward, a state was by definition free, independent, and sovereign. If it formed a confederacy with other states, it could withdraw — secede — reassert its independence — at any time, because a confederacy was, again by definition, a voluntary association of sovereigns. And the Declaration said nothing about a “Union,” or as Lincoln later put it, “a new nation.”

In order to get around these inconvenient facts, Lincoln said falsely that the Union was older than the Constitution, older even than the states. How could a union of things be older than the very things it was a union of? Isn’t that a bit like saying that a marriage is older than either spouse?

Well, said Lincoln, the Union had been formed while the future states were still colonies — then they declared their independence of Britain — but not of each other, mind you — then the Union was “further matured” in the Articles of Confederation — then it was matured still further in the Constitution; but at every stage, the states had had no existence outside the Union, so the Union was indissoluble. At least no state could withdraw without the consent of the rest of the Union. (This contradicted Lincoln’s own ringing affirmation of the right of secession during the Mexican War, but never mind. He came up with a fine and convenient distinction between a “revolutionary” and a “constitutional” right of secession.)

Oddly enough, the states of 1776 thought they were states, plural, not provinces of a sovereign “Union.” N.B.: They did not declare themselves a single “free and independent state,” which is what Lincoln (followed by Jaffa, of course) in essence said they were.

Let’s pause briefly on one point here. A state can secede from a confederation any time it wants to. It needs no justification beyond its own sovereignty. Lincoln, in denying that the states were sovereign, was denying that they were really states at all. All the rest is secondary — whether slavery was good or bad, whether it was endangered, whether the Southerners were acting like sore losers over the 1860 election, and so forth.

Now for the Articles of Confederation. As their name implies, they defined the Union as a confederation of the states, not as a sovereign power over the member states. In fact their second article says plainly: “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence,” et cetera. Each state, if I understand these words correctly, “retains,” among other things, its “independence.” This would seem to imply that each state already enjoyed its independence — not only of Britain, but of the other states.

So the Articles of Confederation were a second Declaration of Independence. Even as the states were still fighting together to secure their independence of Britain, they asserted their independence of each other as well! They were loosely united in a confederation, or, as they also put it, “a firm league of friendship.” But they retained severally their “sovereignty, freedom, and independence,” which I interpret to mean their sovereignty, freedom, and independence.”

Welllll, don’t that make you jump up and holler Woooooooopeeeeeeeeee?????

If not, wellllll I tried now didn’t I?

Stay tuned for some real unexpected goodies Lincoln said, did and caused on my future website.

Love my country…these United States and will die today to preserve her freedom to express my opinion and preserve a safe place for my children/grand children to express their beliefs and exercise their rights as free citizens should be able to do. Wink

Travis
 
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