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Need some help here guys. Need a history of the 4th Virginia cavalry really bad. Any suggestions/

The 4th Virginia Cavalry -- composed of companies from Prince William, Chesterfield, Madison, Culpeper, Powhatan, *****land, Hanover, Warrenton, and Buckingham counties - served from First Manassas to Appomattox Court House [never surrendering its colors] participating in every major battle and campaign which involved the Army of Northern Virginia; producing three brigadier generals.

The 4th was formed at Sangster's Cross Roads in Fairfax County on 4 September 1861. After fighting at Ball's Bluff on 21 October, the unit guarded the Potomac front through the winter before moving to the Peninsula and reorganizing in April. The regiment's commanding officer -- Col. Beverly Robertson --was voted out by the regiment's 550 men in favor of Williams Carter Wickham of Hanover.

After fighting in the May, 1862 battle of Williamsburg, six companies of the 4th participated in Stuart's June "Ride Around McClellan". The companies were praised in the official reports for the gallantry during this historic raid. On 28 July the 4th's 350 troopers -- from a roster of 916 -- was assigned to Fitz Lee's brigade and a month later participated in the "Catlett Station Raid" before capturing Manassas Junction with infantry prior to Second Manassas. Crossing the Potomac on 5 September, the 4th protected the ANV's rear at South Mountain on 14 September. Returning to Virginia after Sharpsburg, the 4th numbered 411 effectives from a roll of 768 on 30 September. During the fall the 4th patrolled Loudoun, Fauquier, Stafford and Prince William counties before riding on Stuart's "Fairfax Raid" of 26-29 December, then moving to picket the Rappahannock River in February 1863.

A diary entry for 17 March 1863 simply read, "Yankees crossed at Kelly's Ford. Great Cavalry fight," which saw the 4th engaged throughout the day and received praise in several reports for its action. On 9 June the 4th rode to Stevensburg to protect Stuart's right flank and rear. During this fight, Wickham's regiment supported the 2nd South Carolina Cavalry. Unfortunately, the 2nd was driven in by the Federal onslaught into the 4th. Retreating, Colonel Wickham rallied his troopers and drove the Federals back to the Rappahannock; but not before losing fifteen wounded and 27 missing. Quit a number of troopers and officers noted the 4th's activities that day as beginning disgracefully, but ending with redemption.

In late June, the 4th screened the ANV's march to Pennsylvania, participating in numerous cavalry engagements. On 1 September, Wickham was promoted to Brigadier General and given command of the

Ist, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th regiments. On 19 October, the 4th participated in the "Buckland Races", before scouting the region between the Rappahannock and the Rapidan for the winter.

During the Wilderness campaign the 4th fought dismounted to halt Grant's move against Richmond and then rode to counter Sheridan's raiders as the Yankees rode for Richmond on 9 May. The regiment participated in the battles of Trevilian's Station, Samaria Church, and Reams' Station - as well as other engagements around Richmond - in June before being sent to the Shenandoah Valley in August. By year's end, one trooper reflected, "The men are in good spirits. There is no chance for us now, but to fight it out -and I expect we will have a rough time before we get through."

By February, the 4th was back around Richmond and participated in all the fighting that preceded the surrender at Appomattox - Five Forks, Namozine Church, Deep Creek, Amelia Springs, New Store, and Appomattox Court House - where fifty-five troopers surrendered. During the war 1,922 men rode with the 4th Virginia Cavalry while 208 were killed and 381 were wounded.

This history is taken entirely from 4th Virginia Cavalry by Kenneth L. Stiles, H.E. Howard Inc, 1985, Lynchburg, VA.

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Originally posted by 14935263:
Need some help here guys. Need a history of the 4th Virginia cavalry really bad. Any suggestions/

1st link below is a cool timeline.

"http://www.google.com/search?q=4th+virginia+cavalry&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADBF&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=YYL1SqL0HImf8AbKx8DzCQ&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CB8Q5wIwCg"

"http://www.blackhorsetroop.org/history"

"http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Evahanove/civilwar01.htm"

"http://xroads.virginia.edu/%7Eug97/flags/powhat.html"

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Commander: Confederate Brig. Gen. Thomas Rosser's cavalry was defeated by Union Brig. Gen. George A. Custer's troopers at Cedar Creek, but the two officers, who attended West Point together, remained friends until Custer's death at Little Big Horn.

Hey Johhny Reb, lookie there...and somehow i, joe yankee, am considered less than dogsh*t when i come to work in Texas, Arkansas, Miss, Fla, Carolinas, Ala, or Georgia? And, especially Tenn. Here's Custer, the as*hle who murdered innocent indians for fun is your friend and billy-bob yank 150 years later is not? Where is the disconnect?

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Whew!! Hot damn! Thanks shipmate, I REALLY appreciate the info and links. I have written two novels about the 4th and JEB Stuart. I have needed this info to verify alot of things I wrote into my stories. I am currently working on research for the 1863 campaigns. I'm also hoping to get a publisher.
The first two are Hardy's War; The Beginning. and Hardy's War; 1864, The Death of the Dream.
I have Hardy's War; On Antieam's Banks, in work.
I was a CW re-enactor for many years and portrayed JEB for almost a decade. Unfortunately time and health haven't been kind, besides my doctor said, "NO MORE horses." So I guess I have to trade a MacClellan for a Dell keyboard.....thanks again!!

Sounds to me like you ought to get hold of Sir Ridley Scott or one of those other producers who like to make hollywood movies based on true historical events. God knows we have more than enough of that fictional history puke making the rounds. No wonder our congress can't find it's own butt to wipe in the toilet after "learning" all that revisionist history being taught in public schools since WW2. Keep up the good work brother! It's my guess one could find 2000+ quality movie productions just from the lifers on this website.

Thanks for the help on the fourth Virginia Cavalry but now I'm needing help for the same on the Third virginia Cavalry. Everytime I get close to getting the info I hit a stone wall. Last time it was two little old ladies who said they would help then backed out. so any help for the 3rd virginia info would be more than I've gotten in the past.

3RD VIRGINIA CAVALRY

Field and Staff
•Commander: Robert Johnston (Colonel)
•Colonel: Thomas F. Goode (Lt. Col., Col.) and Thomas H. Owen (Lt. Col., Col.)
•Lieutenant Colonel: William R. Carter (Major, Lt. Col.) and William M. Field (Major, Lt. Col.)
•Major: Jefferson C. PhillipsBattles,

Assignments
•September-October 1861: Department of the Peninsula
•October 1861-April 1862: Cavalry, Department of the Peninsula
•January-February 1862: McLaws' Division, Department of the Peninsula
•April-July 1862: Cavalry Brigade, Army of Northern Virginia
•July 1862-September 1863: Fitz. Lee's Brigade, Cavalry Division, Army of Northern Virginia
•September 1863-July 1864: Wickham's Brigade, Fitz. Lee's Division, Cavalry Corps, Army of Northern Virginia
•August 1864-January 1865: Wickham's Brigade, Fitz. Lee's-Rosser's Cavalry Division, Valley District, Department of Northern Virginia
•February-April 1865: Wickham's-Munford's Brigade, Fitz. Lee's Division, Cavalry Corps, Army of Northern VirginiaSkirmishes and

Engagements
•near New Market Bridge [detachment] (July 19, 1861)
•Back River Road [detachment] (July 19, 1861)
•Back River [squadron] (July 19, 1861)
•near New Market Bridge [detachment] (November 11, 1861)
•Yorktown Siege (April-May 1862)
•Williamsburg (May 5, 1862)
•Seven Days Battles (June 25-July 1, 1862)
•Scout in King William, King and Queen and Gloucester counties [detachment] (July 22-30, 1862)
•Stuart's Expedition from Hanover Court House to near Fredericksburg (August 2-8, 1862)
•2nd Bull Run (August 28-30, 1862)
•Antietam (September 17, 1862)
•Mountville, Virginia (October 31, 1862)
•Corbin's Crossroads, near Amissville, Virginia (November 10, 1862)
•Fredericksburg (December 13, 1862)
•Raid on Dumfries and Fairfax Station (December 27-29, 1862)
•Hartwood Church (February 25, 1863)
•Kelly's Ford (March 17, 1863)
•Chancellorsville (May 1-4, 1863)
•Brandy Station (June 9, 1863)
•Aldie (June 17, 1863)
•Middleburg (June 19, 1863)
•Gettysburg (July 1-3, 1863)
•Bristoe Campaign (October 1863)
•Mine Run Campaign (November-December 1863)
•Upperville (December 17, 1863)
•The Wilderness (May 5-6, 1864)
•Spotsylvania Court House (May 8-21, 1864)
•North Anna (May 23-26, 1864)
•Haw's Shop (May 28, 1864)
•Cold Harbor (June 1-3, 1864)
•Trevilian Station (June 11-12, 1864)
•Petersburg Siege (June 1864-April 1865)
•Reams' Station (June 29, 1864)
•3rd Winchester (September 19, 1864)
•Tom's Brook (October 9, 1864)
•Cedar Creek (October 19, 1864)
•Appomattox Court House (April 9, 1865)

hey brother, life is beautiful since al gore "invented" the internet. Whatever you are wondering about...just type it into "google search" and you can usually find something about what you are looking for:

"http://www.mycivilwar.com/regiments/csa-va/va_cav_03_reg.htm"

the real fun starts when you pick up some information that does not jive with 100 year old books. That my friend is history that has been revised by some redocument community, for some, behind the scenes, political or cash purposes. I think those revisionists should be jailed.

Sunday i saw a couple men out of Cornell University on TV that wrote a book about our founding fathers that signed the declaration of independance and filled the book with lies. In the bibliography they wrote "we have dispensed with providing customary bibliography" or something to that nature. The revisionists are getting more brazen!!!!!!!!!

This is the second (and last) friendly reminder I am going to give on the posting of hot links outside of Military.com. The next one will be a 10 day warning. Any posts made which contain hot links or otherwise violate the TOS while under warning will result in a 10 day suspension. The choice is yours.

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USNVet940 The fault lies with me not him. I only did what I did because 1. I am too dumb to get what I need off google.
2. I have been trying for 8 years to get info on the 3rd Virginia and always hit a stone wall. I had to try on here!
So if you want to give anyone a ten day suspension give it to this old First class, not Joe! I take the blame!

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Originally posted by 14935263:
USNVet940 The fault lies with me not him. I only did what I did because 1. I am too dumb to get what I need off google.
2. I have been trying for 8 years to get info on the 3rd Virginia and always hit a stone wall. I had to try on here!
So if you want to give anyone a ten day suspension give it to this old First class, not Joe! I take the blame!

I can appreciate the difficulty you've had in trying to find the information you want, and for wanting to take the responsibility. Joe is NOT in any immediate danger of receiving a suspension. I try to avoid taking such actions unless it is absolutely clear that someone is deliberately disregarding the rules of the boards and Terms of Service, and/or causing disruptions. I make every effort to be fair and lenient (hence, a couple of "friendly reminders" before placing someone on warning) and will only suspend someone when they ignore that warning.

As long as Joe (or anyone else for that matter) follows the rules of the boards and TOS, they have nothing to fear from me..but I do have to ensure that those rules and the TOS are followed.

Hey Navy, sorry not know that rule, my bad.
I'll give you the benefit of a doubt concerning whether or not you knew of the rules beforehand but you are aware of them now and I do expect them to be followed from this point on.
That is not a very user friendly rule, my brother from a different mother.
I do not make the rules. I simply follow them and make sure they're followed.
If you want you can call my kid... he works internet security support for drones and could easily set up a catch all that neuters anyone from displaying a hot key that bugs your boss.
You can make that suggestion to the administrators if you like. They are responsible for the functionality and programming of the site, not me.
And, you know, if civilians want to live with rules like that they just buy windows 95 or 98 on a dial-up connection, you know: to get a hot link, when using those old systems, would be a rarity.
See above.
Come on Navy, the bad guys are faster than us on our own "al gore" internet????????
May i make a suggestion that we get real and allow us to communicate, at least as effective as the bad guys,.. hey and while you rightin' the ship, Swabby, how about you arming the rest of us when we en-massed, milling around like targets in a shooting gallery? Nice ride!
No one is prohibiting you from communicating with other members on the boards. You've already been advised on the rules for the forums. Whether you choose to post or not under those rules is up to you. Until they are changed, though, I will enforce them on these forums.

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aye, aye Captain. Can you give us the email of the administrator who made the decision not to grant permission to post hot keys on this website? I mean what is up with that? Eight year old kids get to use hot keys on websites in elementary schools. If there is a good reason, please post it so i do not have to bother administrator. What is that plane in your photo? Nice ride! Is that yours, i mean your responsibility?

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aye, aye Captain. Can you give us the email of the administrator who made the decision not to grant permission to post hot keys on this website? I mean what is up with that? Eight year old kids get to use hot keys on websites in elementary schools. If there is a good reason, please post it so i do not have to bother administrator. What is that plane in your photo? Nice ride! Is that yours, i mean your responsibility?

I do not have the administrators email at hand at the moment. However, I have emailed strobelvets (the lead mod) about it and will give it to you as soon as I get his response. I do not fully recall the reasons behind the policy, other than it involving some legal issues. But, again, it is the policy and will be enforced until I'm told differently.

JoeProphet:

Strobelvets has received a reply from Rob, the forums administrator, concerning your complaint and has forwarded it to me. The no hot links policy was instituted last year to protect the members and visitors of Military.com from masked hot links, links which either infected their systems with viruses, malware, spyware, and Trojans or took them to sites containing pornographic material. A number of them suffered critical software issues as a result.
The decision to restrict hot links to those sites which are officially partnered with Military.com and "dot-mil" and "dot-gov" sites, while inconvenient to some, was done for everyone's protection. Until the moderators are informed otherwise, that policy (and the enforcement of it) remains in effect.

Questions/comments/complaints concerning the policy are to be directed to the moderators who shall pass them up the virtual chain of command.

hey stobelvets, i have a prophacy update: one day you gonna look to solutions/answers from your brothers in competing services. No man is an island. I said my son is working in drone aircraft support. He and his kind of teachers could hardwire any server to be hack-proofed by the angels of death or the angels by nite on porno-sites(and porno, according to CISCO certification level: "employ the best hackers").

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President Lincoln made his Gettysburg Address on this date, 1863.

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President Lincoln made his Gettysburg Address on this date, 1863.

I was trying to get this in before midnight. Good job Gumby. But you have to get up pretty early...wait...you did. 0500 it looks like.

But seriously, this was not only Lincoln's greatest speach, it was, arguably the greatest ever by anyone. With the possible exception of his second inaugural address.

"Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate -- we cannot consecrate -- we cannot hallow -- this ground.

The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here...

...It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us --

...that these dead shall not have died in vain --

...and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

It took me a visit to Shiloh Church, Tenn. 1999, before i caught deeper meaning from these Holy Spirited Words. This noted passage establishes there is continuing, responsible behavior to bear, for those that have ears to hear.