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Originally posted by Thrust_0311:
Joe I suggest you read a little about what modern historians have to say about Stonewall Jackson. We certainly do not all agree that he was a great general....

If you've known southerners who hate Yankees then that's just what it is. There is more reason than simply a rivalry going back 150 years.... The main problem is how we are always depicted as inferior and stupid. Most movies have us as wife beating, Bible quoting (not a bad thing but in their minds, an unforgiveable sin to their own religions), tobacco dribblin', gun toting morons. Scorn aside, we carry on with life and you mock us for standing up for our version of history which is normally censored. There are two completely different versions of American history: One is favorable to the South. One is critical of the South in every way. That's it! There may be some serious disagreements with Alexander Hamilton, Northern war aims, some of your politicians and whatnot, but in the end, our goals are the same and your armies were misled into crushing the spirit of liberty which you are now claiming to believe in (and I'm sure that you mean what you say). We don't have to refight yesterday's war among ourselves to do the right thing in the future, but how can we get along in the future when you demand us to surrender our dignity and accept any condemnation you throw our way? Also think about this: Our ancestors' graves are defaced and their sacrifices scorned, but they fought with honor and never did to northern soldiers or civilians what they would do to us when they had the chance. Atrocities were committed by irregulars on both sides, of course, but the citizens of Pennsylvania went after Lee's wounded with axes.....contrast that with our own treatment for northern wouned even as Sherman was raping Georgia and Carolina. There are a number of reasons why the North acted so much more brutally...actually closer to Al Qaeda ... if you are believing half of the stuff that the press and your revisionist historians say about us, then you are equally deceived as those men were back then. It is partly this legacy of criminality, almost unique in American military history, combined with the wanton denial of it and the transfer of guilt that makes so many people angry today. When I walk into a store to buy something and the clerk smirks or tries to mimmick the way I speak like I'm some kind of imbecile, it may as well have been yesterday that he killed my family while I was at the front. The hatred won't stop as long as you people try to walk over us in ways like this.

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Originally posted by JoeProphet:

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Originally posted by Thrust_0311:
Joe I suggest you read a little about what modern historians have to say about Stonewall Jackson. We certainly do not all agree that he was a great general....

If you've known southerners who hate Yankees then that's just what it is. There is more reason than simply a rivalry going back 150 years.... The main problem is how we are always depicted as inferior and stupid. Most movies have us as wife beating, Bible quoting (not a bad thing but in their minds, an unforgiveable sin to their own religions), tobacco dribblin', gun toting morons. Scorn aside, we carry on with life and you mock us for standing up for our version of history which is normally censored. There are two completely different versions of American history: One is favorable to the South. One is critical of the South in every way. That's it! There may be some serious disagreements with Alexander Hamilton, Northern war aims, some of your politicians and whatnot, but in the end, our goals are the same and your armies were misled into crushing the spirit of liberty which you are now claiming to believe in (and I'm sure that you mean what you say). We don't have to refight yesterday's war among ourselves to do the right thing in the future, but how can we get along in the future when you demand us to surrender our dignity and accept any condemnation you throw our way? Also think about this: Our ancestors' graves are defaced and their sacrifices scorned, but they fought with honor and never did to northern soldiers or civilians what they would do to us when they had the chance. Atrocities were committed by irregulars on both sides, of course, but the citizens of Pennsylvania went after Lee's wounded with axes.....contrast that with our own treatment for northern wouned even as Sherman was raping Georgia and Carolina. There are a number of reasons why the North acted so much more brutally...actually closer to Al Qaeda ... if you are believing half of the stuff that the press and your revisionist historians say about us, then you are equally deceived as those men were back then. It is partly this legacy of criminality, almost unique in American military history, combined with the wanton denial of it and the transfer of guilt that makes so many people angry today. When I walk into a store to buy something and the clerk smirks or tries to mimmick the way I speak like I'm some kind of imbecile, it may as well have been yesterday that he killed my family while I was at the front. The hatred won't stop as long as you people try to walk over us in ways like this.

Thrust, i hear ya. What can i say? i cannot speak for all yankees! But i will try as you seem to be speaking for your countrymen. A large proportion of Yankees are sexed up, divorced courted out, greeded up, gangstered out, cracked, drugged and alcoholed up, calamity Jane'd out, way, way more than we will ever again really care about any 150+ year old grudges is all i'm saying, for sure. If some pinhead in a store that can do nothing more for an occupation than run a cash register, mimmicks your accent, i am sorry. But didn't you ever hear of the psychology 101 fact that someone who continually downgrades others is doing so because their own little life is so miserable blah blah blah?

Ahhh, Stonewall Jackson, when he died, didn't Lee make some "there goes the heart of the Confederacy" or some monumental statement? And fact is without him Rebs that were under his command did not fare the same successes as with him? How can anyone, in any credible fashion, downplay the importance of such a man without making himself sound like the imbecile? Like some fool comes along and writes a book saying Alexander the Great wasn't that good of a field general for blah blah blah reasons. Who cares what the fool says? Jesus said, "the poor you will have with you always". Seems like He also implied "the fools you will have with you always", too, because the bible is full of examples of how not to be one. We are admonished not to heed the advice(or instruction) of a fool and certainly pay little heed to one, (unless on the jobsite because they seem to have unsafe work habits, hence: dangerous to co-workers).

Hollywood makes movies. Those folks are not yankees - they are not even good enough to be called yankees(joke). Really, Hollywoodlanders have a kind of fabricated vision of reality; you certainly see that across the board with what they call entertainment. And what they call real life in tinsel town, is totally unreal elsewhere in USA, not just in shows with you in them. Look how they depict all prophets except the prophet mohammed who is their hero and a lot of those movie/tv show makers are jewish. Go figure. you can't. Certainly not yankees any more than they are Southern Rebels.

Anyway, in closing, did you ever hear the term, the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Let me roll this by you: you and your southern neighbors and i and my yankee neighbors have a common enemy that seeks to take our houses, property, guns, lifestyle, anything we and our ancestors held dear. They are a gang of greedy globalists, bankrolled by a gangster organization called international bankers.

From my booklearning and research, i learned it was the ancestors of today's international bankers that ultimately were responsible for cleaning your southern communities of it's young men, 150 years ago. But it dosn't stop there, for it seems they have been financing,(loaning money for profit or political gain), both sides of all wars since within a century after the Crusades. They are not just yankees but are from all parts of the earth and have banded together in this elaborate scheme called a New World Order. If you think you and your ancestors had a problem with yankees, wait till these modern day vampires bite you in the juglar!!! Our present oil dilemma is just tip of the iceburg fixing to collide with USA. Remember the Titanic.

Perhaps we could lay our North/South differences aside for a truce and think up ways to vote these greedy bast*ards out of our congress every election till we rid our homeland of these varmints. First order of business would be to identify them and notify everyone on this website which ones are coming up for election in their hometown with the invitation to either be for USA or ignore this emergency situation and bite the coming bullets.
Godspeed,
Joe Yankee