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Just curious! Don’t have to comment why, I just need numbers……….lets count them up and have a big **** brawl
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I'm currently enlisted into the U.S. Army, and I would fight for the Union. I'm sworn to defend America, and the Union is clearly the United States of America.
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Remember all them sighns in the 60z an 70z, from world around, saying , "Yanky go home?"
They were talking about ALL of us.!! |
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That's easy. My home (Texas) and the Constitution! Call me a Reb
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I would take the Union side as I'm a Kansan BUT I'm not a Damned JawHawker or Redleg. I am a westerner not a yankee. I'd fight to save the Union as I've seen the division of me kinsmens homeland of Ireland between the damned english, catholic and protistan.
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That is easy, I would fight for the Republic and the Constitution and the true spirit of America as envisioned by the Founding Fathers, so of course I would fight for the Confederacy.
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Hey! I"m not that old!
 I was born in Virginia, raised in California and live in Washington. There should be a "don't know" choice.  |
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I think it's spelled "Yankee" go home... And when said signs are held up by Red Sox fans they take on a different meaning!  |
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Though I’d feel very much propelled to defend Indiana if threatened, and an ardent proponent of states rights, I’d have to fight for the Union as there really is no issue that would cause me to take up arms against the full Union. Maybe I’m just too indoctrinated with ‘the’ United States as opposed to ‘these’ United States as it once was.
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Born in Brooklyn to a N. Carolinian and having read the history of the civil war and done research I would have to say with my mixed racial ancestry I would probably fight for the Confederacy . States rights was a misnomer and I do not understand why the Southerners still say that was what the war was fought over and the proof is Confederate legislation following things like the disagreement with West Viginia and almost losing half of what was it Tennesee as well as individual counties in Mississippi Georgia and Florida declaring for the Union . There Were some interesting things about the South in that war . Three minorities in uniform with weapons following military orders fought alongside whites for the Confederacy . Jefferson Davis His secretary of state Benjamin and the General who signed at Appomattox court house at the end of the war in their correspondence during the war had decided that slavery had to come to an end as economically it was killing the South . Of 3.5 million blacks within the CSA at the beginning of the war there were 190,000 free blacks (many of whom were slave owners) most of whom were business owners in urban areas of the CSA . The South had more military personnel at the end of the war by almost twice what the Union had though their logistics support was almost non-existant . Many Drafted Southerners had defected to the Union side with a particularly large numbers attaching themselves to Shermans forces on the march to the sea still not making the difference up in any way . Had the South won it would have been a better place to live in than many suppose though we will never know unless they rise again which may very well happen . Second time around I would be in the opposition though . I am not a Southern apologist nor do I find that group to be worthy human beings . Research however makes the South a very different place than one would imagine it to be before the Civil War . Jes Mah 2 cent woif . YMMV . as ever
Enjoy life Willi |
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Hello All.
Jim Bunting here in Toronto, Canada. To answer the poll , I would be following a very long line of Canadians, if I were to voulteer to fight for the Union side in the ACW. In fact about 40,000 men from what was then British North America volunteered to be a part of the "blues ". Most were acting as "proxies " for wealthy Americans, who were willing to pay them to take their place, to be their "stand in " to forfill their draft notice. For doing this the proxiy would get a sum of money, usually about 400 dollars, if he lived thru his period of service, and if he was killed, his family would get the money, instead. This is the source for the term " He bought the farm " as the money paid would be enough, in those days to buy a good sized farm property. Agents came to Canada, to encourage trained British Army soldiers to desert their units, to go to the States. A trained British Army soldier could receive as much as 1,500 dollars in rewards to desert, and some did so. The vast majority of those from Canada who wound up serving in the Union army were simply interested in the money. Many of them served in "border units " from towns that are located along the Canada/USA border. New York, Vermont, Ohio, and Michigan all saw many Canadians in their infantry and artillery units. In the Viet Nam era, about 30 to 40 thousand Canadians served in the US military, as volunteers, but it is not easy to get accurate information on them, as the US forced them to put a US " home town " on their paperwork, to hide their nationality. As they were widely spread around, they were not visible, but they were there. The Canadian Viet Nam memorial in Windsor Ontario across the river from Detroit has 105 names on it, all Canadian KIA's from that time period. Many more were wounded and lived to come home to Canada. There is a long tradition of Canadian Aboriginals, especially Mohawks and Iroquios serving in the US Army. There is a VFW post on the Six Nations reserve in southern Ontario. Jim Bunting. Toronto. |
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That is easy, I would fight for the Republic and the Constitution and the true spirit of America as envisioned by the Founding Fathers, so of course I would fight for the United States.
The Constitution is not a static document but a growing, living political charter that continually embraces the best of us (such as the women's vote and Civil Rights) and continually sheds the worst of us (such as slavery). |
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Wellll, folks;
I was a bit reluctant to post here but here goes and don’t get POed at me for not wanting to pay ultra high taxes and told what to do, how and when and if I don’t do it I get the shaft. The next thing you know they’ll be charging another dollar tax on a pack of cigarettes…HEH, HEH oh sht, They’ve already done that here in South Dakota….Lincoln would have made an excellent Democrat but as we all know…a rotten Republican huh. That’s an easy question for me to answer. I’d fight for Texas. I’m not really too sure exactly what the mind thought was waaaay back then but I can imagine; if I thought my state was coming under attack by someone I thought to be a war lord and knew that Ft. Sumpter/Sumter, SC was manned by a foreign government that just wouldn’t get off soil of a part of my country I’d be a little POed to say the least about that. ALSO, if I thought for a minute that my obligation to fight for the sovereignty of the state of Texas was for the South to keep, sell and maintain slavery in tact…again, I’d be POed. I’d try to form my own battalion or at the least a platoon and when I came across slave owners I’d most likely burn them out and tell the slaves to fiend for themselves. MIND you this is a thought of what the mindset might have been in those days. There were slave owners in Texas I’m sorry to say buttttt, not a popular thing to be in the state of Texas  .Being from Texas I wouldn’t have considered killing my kinfolk  . I think this could have been avoided with a little talk, good Tennessee Whiskey  and or maybe Kentucky Whiskey reluctantly, (had Lincoln thought of this there would have been no Civil War), and yes some cold beer  if there were any ice around. Maybe a little Piece Pipe herb  from some local Indians if possible. Now hit me with some of those bigot goodies the North has become experts at. As always, Travis |
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Then you would be fighting for nothing because a "growing, living political charter" will be worth absolutely nothing. There can be no stability in a society without the rule of law to protect the weak from the strong and to uphold the Rights given by God. The Constitution has no authority unless it is taken at its' literal meaning,not "interpreted" to conform with the fad political thought of the day. |
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I'd fight for New England and the Union.
If I survived it, I'd probably kill myself. Just the sheer horror of ordering cannons to rip apart your American brothers should be overwhelming for anyone here. (Food for thought, ever seen many pictures of Civil War officers where they look proud of their service?) |
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Well, considering that there are 3 pages of Brinsons on the rolls in the Museum of the Confederacy in Charlesto S.C., and my dad's family is from Georgia (grandmother) and Arkansas (grandfather) I'd be fighting to protect my family and their homes, that would mean I'd be fighting for the South. With any luck, I'd have made it to Virginia in time to sign up with the Wade Hampton Legion. Failing that, I'd have been in one of the heroic Regiments raised around Decatur or Valdosta and marched with Gen. Longstreet's 1st Corps, Army of Northern Virginia.
Duane A. Brinson Waikoloa, Hi. U.S.M.C. 1985-1989 Duane A. Brinson |
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I had an XO in the USMC in early 80s who told me that there were quite a few Canadians who served with him in his infantry company over in Vietnam. |
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Hey Travis we voted to raise taxes on the death sticks in South Dakota. Thats what you do in a democracy,you should know your facts before you blow smoke up peoples pant leg about freedom. Oh and speaking of freedom, has anyone ever been happy as a slave? I hope there is a real hell so those who believe owning slaves was ok have a place of their own.
Vern May Mobridge SD |
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My father's side of the family was from Arkansas. My mother's side from Iowa. I am inclined to agree with those from the Confederacy. I wouldn't have owned slaves, because of my Irish ancestry. So, I would be fighting essentially for what our forefathers fought for in the Revolution: Freedom from oppressors who tell me what to do and when to do it. There weren't as many Irish in the South as the North, but there were quite a few any who. They fought for the south, because they believed that the North was the oppressors of freedom, just as the British were to the Irish. Never mind that the South ended up running the blockade and trading with the British. War makes for strange bedfellows.
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Hell I wouldn't fight for either side I would go out west and help defend settlers from the indians that were threatening not the ones that traded and got along with us
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