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RE: http://tech.military.com/equipment/view/89049/m16a2-5.5...fle.html?eq_id=89049

Great weapon! Why can't the Army train with these instead of those stupid M16A1s. I'll take the 3-round burst over autofire any day!
 
Posts: 5 | Registered: Thu 04 October 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Where the hell did you go where you trained on a M16A1???????? In Basic I never saw a A1 except on a picture once. The A2 is a antique in its own right. Besides the damn thing jammed on me every time I ever fired it (But mine was stamped Produced in 1982) I think mine had a problem in the gas tube I just couldn't fix. no one else's seemed to jam. I just wished the Army took the XM8 I was so looking forward to that.

P.S. I went to FT. Jackson
 
Posts: 3 | Registered: Wed 14 November 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Train with the A1 in basic.. jam only once during BCT.. Love it thrue my military carreer.. enjoy firing it fully auto while doing small arms ADA tatics aginst RCATS..

Train with A2 while with OHANG.. dislike it.. harder to zero. give me the A1 any day of the week.
 
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As a matter of fact I carried an A1 during my first assignment (81-83) in the Air Force. I was in a forward air outfit (ASRT) and we had A1s as the primary weapon. Full auto was never a problem for me for several reasons.
1. Clean it regularly.
2. Keep it to bursts less than 5.
3. Make sure you load (never let someone else do it) your magazines.
4. Place your shots (and its easier to hit what you shoot at than with an AK)

The 3 burst never made a big impression on me. When we didn't have enough crew served weapons for a convoy, an M16 with lots of clips could at least make them keep their head down.
 
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M4 or M16 is perfect ergonomy, but have a structure problem.
If used in a camp is perfect, but a continous fire cause autofire, breack of part surface for higt temperature, caliber not great stopper than 7,62.
Version of DPMP solve this problem, barrel sobstitute a gas tube, hight block for cambre dissipator, barrel higt diameter but not havy, votex compensator, gun kote finish. Avabel in 7,62x39 !!!

But this version is dinonible for civil market.
The 5,56 in a short barrel 7" is good for precision, but for stopping? Bullet 69grs is a stopper?
 
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The AK whit m16 coolapsable stock, rubber grip,red point, rail, recoil compensator is a great stopper, easy to carry and fast shoot.
 
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This "Matty Mattel" weapon, along with its close relative the M4 carbine, are genuine POS! The poor and dirty design of the weapon coupled with the underpowered 5.56mm cartridge are NOT SUITABLE for combat operations. Give me the good ol' M14 or M1A commercial equivalent anytime. In fact I have two M1A's, and I wouldn't have an M4 or M16 in the house or here on the ranch! An old Marine in TX! Smile
 
Posts: 17 | Registered: Fri 01 June 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Been there, done that. Played the terrorism game...and kicked their A$$!
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Originally posted by jkbelew:
This "Matty Mattel" weapon, along with its close relative the M4 carbine, are genuine POS! Well, that certainly clears up that debacle. Nearly 90% of troops in Iraq, who are having no trouble at all with their M16A4 or M4 rifles, have been saddled with a POS for nearly 50 years of killing bad guys on demand The poor and dirty design of the weapon coupled with the underpowered 5.56mm cartridge are NOT SUITABLE for combat operations. ...and there it is again! Another hard earned testimony on the combat effectiveness of the rifle most used by the worlds elite combat units! Give me the good ol' M14 or M1A commercial equivalent anytime. There was a good reason they replaced the troublesome M14 In fact I have two M1A's, That you apparantly never carried through the rice paddies and triple canopy jungles of Vietnam. Hard to do with a weapon that is longer and heavier than the M1 Garand and I wouldn't have an M4 or M16 in the house or here on the ranch! An old Marine in TX! According to your profile, you never carried an M14 in the Corps. In 1986, you were issued the M16A2 Smile


But thanks for playing the game Smile


Life ain't worth living, if ya ain't got a good cigar.
 
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Please stop. You make me feel old.

I was issued an M16A1 in boot camp at MCRD San Diego in 1983. Later, in the fleet, just before we got the A2's, my issued A1 was reeeeeaaaaaalllllly old. It was not a Colt. It was made by General Motors Hydromatic Division. It had a 3 prong flash suppressor, and it rattled when you shook it.

Some of us were still issued the old vietnam issue web suspenders (M1956? model), and, we even had a few of the old WW2/Korea camo pattern shelter halves and helmet covers for our steel pots. We had the old vietnam flak jackets. Granted, later, we got k-pots and kevlar flaks. Heck, we even had a few pallets of c-rats in supply.

Ever seen a Gammagoat? We had em.
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Originally posted by gungriffen:
Where the hell did you go where you trained on a M16A1???????? In Basic I never saw a A1 except on a picture once. The A2 is a antique in its own right. Besides the damn thing jammed on me every time I ever fired it (But mine was stamped Produced in 1982) I think mine had a problem in the gas tube I just couldn't fix. no one else's seemed to jam. I just wished the Army took the XM8 I was so looking forward to that.

P.S. I went to FT. Jackson
 
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