I agree w/ 7550274, that is an M16 unless they changed the MP5 and made it for a bigger calibur then you would have the M16. I wounder who they hired to set up the pics w/ the names. Whoever it is needs to be fired.
Actually, the caliber of the M16A2 is a great deal smaller than the MP5. However, the round of the M16A2 carries more gunpowder per cartidge, which is probably what you meant.
THE MP-5 IS A GREAT WEAPON, THE CHOICE OF ALOT OF SPEC. OPS UNITS. I HAVE A FEELING THE SCAR WILL EITHER REPLACE IT OR OPRATORS WILL HAVE A CHOICE. I THINK THE SPRINGFIELD NEW WEAPONS MAY BE THE BEST OF THE LOT. 7.62 IS A LOT MORE POWER. THE SERVICES HAVE A LOT OF GOOD CHOICES,INCLUDING THE XM-8,H-K. WE ARE DOING OK IN SMALL ARMS. LETS CHOOSE WISELY.....
although i like the mp5 submachine gun, i still would feel uneasy about taking a 9mm to a fire fight. if it were up to me i would adopt the ump .45 submachine gun. more powerful and accurate. and it costs less to produce than an mp5, so it would please the bean counters.
Originally posted by brown358: although i like the mp5 submachine gun, i still would feel uneasy about taking a 9mm to a fire fight. if it were up to me i would adopt the ump .45 submachine gun. more powerful and accurate. and it costs less to produce than an mp5, so it would please the bean counters.
I READ THE RECOIL IS A REAL S.OB. WITH THE UMP. NEVER USED IT, BUT THIS IS WAT I READ.
I have used the HK mp-5 a5 and the HK UMP many times they both are great firearms but if I had to use one in combat I would go with the UMP, the UMP is accurate and uses the powerful .45 (or .40 s&w), and the UMP is pretty easy to control.
That is great news to hear the UMP'S kick isnt so bad like i read in other mags. the drawback may be rate of fire. on the other hand, you hit a human with 3 rounds, chances are they wont get up. if they do, its gotta be thier last action on earth. i'd pump another burst into him....lights out. HEY, I LIKE THE UMP. Check into rounds per minute, and judge for urself
But if I had to carry either one into a combat zone, it would be the UMP. Greater knockdown power at greater distances. But both are made for Close quarters combat. Not battle weapons.
the MP-5 is the choice weapon for cqb for the SEALS. why not the UMP? i don't know. ARMY SF seem to like thier M-4. Then again, you use different equipment to fit the mission. now, H&K comes out with the 416. wat will replace the M-16? i have no clue. early i read XM-8 was the one. now its not. the SCAR? i read thats gonna be a SOG toy. watever they replace the 16 with, its gotta be cost effective, and mass produced. anybody hear anything?
XM-8 weapon system has been scraped,The UMP from HK in 45 might be replacing the MP-5 with Spec ops & SWAT teams world wide,City Police SWAT in my county are already using the UMP possibly in 40 s/w in their raids.
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Originally posted by 9514735: THE MP-5 IS A GREAT WEAPON, THE CHOICE OF ALOT OF SPEC. OPS UNITS. I HAVE A FEELING THE SCAR WILL EITHER REPLACE IT OR OPRATORS WILL HAVE A CHOICE. I THINK THE SPRINGFIELD NEW WEAPONS MAY BE THE BEST OF THE LOT. 7.62 IS A LOT MORE POWER. THE SERVICES HAVE A LOT OF GOOD CHOICES,INCLUDING THE XM-8,H-K. WE ARE DOING OK IN SMALL ARMS. LETS CHOOSE WISELY.....
anyone know wat JSOC is using now? i bet watevr it is it will come from H&K. the 416 is a good possibility, as is the SCAR. as far as the regular army, the M-16A2 and A3 will be here for a while. as will the M-4 carbine. the M-4 is lightweight, same rounds as M-16, AND has rails for all kinds of goodies. i have the civvie version from ROCK RIVER, and i love it. got a tac lite, and a TRIJICON scope. its well worth it.
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Originally posted by 10248884: I have used the HK mp-5 a5 and the HK UMP many times they both are great firearms but if I had to use one in combat I would go with the UMP, the UMP is accurate and uses the powerful .45 (or .40 s&w), and the UMP is pretty easy to control.
HOW did you manage that? i doubt you brought an mp-5 or UMP at a store. unless ur a member of SPEC. OPS and ur keeping quiet. used them many times?
the mp-5 has generally been considered the best SMG out there. lots of spec. ops use it. H&K came out with the MP-7 A1. its a 4,6mm x 30 sub that exceeds NATO standards. it penetrated a thin layer of titanium and 20 layers of kevlar. the KSK, German SF, has switched to it. nice piece.
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