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Im going to MEPS to renegotiate my contract in the morning. Just trying to get some quick info and thoughts about MOS before I leave thanks..
Ill be going as an E-4 also... |
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1: If your going in as an E-4 you will be a specialist not a Corporal (jr.NCO)
2: Even with that you are still a private even when you get to your first unit. ESPECIALLY as a 13F |
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Are you a 13F? Still a Private my a$$- I have 7 yrs of service in. |
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but how many of those 7 years was spent as a 13F? the answer to this will give you an idea of where you stand in pecking order once you get to your unit.
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are you a 13f? Why post if you not gonna try to help and answer my ?'s- |
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OK Bud, I am a 13F, so I'll try and give you a fair answer. Keep in mind that I'm in the ARNG, so AD is going to be a bit different when it comes to promotions, etc..
The best part about being a 13F (I'm a Foward Observer, SGT.) is having the ability to rain all sorts of hell down on the enemy. The worst part about being a 13F, is that there's not a lot of oppertunities to do that, even deployed. In Iraq, the 13F (FiST teams) pretty much were relagated to doing radio watches in the command post (TOC). I served as an Infantry Sniper in Iraq, so I didn't get locked into the detail, thank God. From what I've heard Afghanistan is a little better, with some chances for actual fire missions, depending on where your at, and how the Taliban is fixed for mortar rounds that day. You say you were in for 7 years, what MOS? If you were a clerk or something, than 13F should be something interesting. If you were Infantry or a Cav Scout, I'd stick with that. Hope this answers you question, if not, let us know what specifically you want to know about. Sgt.U.S.ARMY, Infantry Sniper, Iraq Combat Veteran |
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Okay Florida so I gotta ask. Are you a Fister? Or an Infantryman? You have both in your post and scout in your name. Soooo. Which is it? Just wondering.
And to the OP, don't let anybody tell you you can't do your job in country because I'm here to tell you that you can, I have. Myself and the other FO destroyed many a building and killed many a bad guy. Good times. |
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Can you tell what Ft. Sill was like when you reclassed? What should I know before going? Thanks |
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Maybe someone can tell me if 13F still uses the, "FM 6-30 Tactics, Techiques, and Procedures for Observed Fire"
If so, than cpljason this is something you can take a look at. click |
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Looking at that is like trying to teach myself japanese. lol- thanks for the link |
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It was changed a few years back. Its now the FM 3-09.30 I don't have the link, but it was revised to incorporate the 6-30 and 6-20-20 into one manual. Much of the stuff is the same, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. One of the problems we had at AIT was a guy who had been taught by his NG unit how to call for fire. He wasn't able to "un-learn" the stuff they had taught him incorrectly and ultimately failed the course.
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The 6-30 will be your bible in AIT. And they will call it that. They made us have it with us everywhere we went. I mean EVERYWHERE. But that depends on your instructor. Try and learn it. That's your new language. Speaking of language your gonna have to learn how to pronounce numbers all over again.....The hard way...you'll see what i mean when you get there.
ROCK HARD FISTERS HOOOAH!!!! |
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FM 6-30 is good. There is one more FM you should try and get hold of and that is the 6-20-20 if I remember correctly. I think they stopped publishing it but is a great FM and and will fit in your cargo pocket. Have been trying to get hold of another one for years. It goes idepth about tactics and the like and in my mind blows 6-30 out of the water.
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I would also like to add that the 6-20-20 has an awesome list of common acronyms associated with FO's. This was huge when I was going through AIT to help bring me up to speed.
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Ft Sill is decent, nothing special - since you're prior service you'll get to live in a apartment instead of the barracks. We did learn a lot over the course of 6 weeks - although it's just the basics of the job.
The typical schedule is: M-F 0530-0630 PT 0710-0815 Breakfast 0830-1700 Classroom instruction or Field Exercises w/ lunch break Sat-Sun Off After 1700 prior service personnel are free. If you live in the barracks, there are formations at 1715 for dinner, 1830 and 2100 for accountability and lights out at 2130. |
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Allright check it out im a FISTER in the 82nd currently in Afghanistan. I've been in the TOC at both BDE and battaion level and now am on an FO team at the Company level (FO Teams go out in the Sh*t) If You area 13F and new to the MOS and unit you have alot to learn from those more exsperienced, regardless of rank. I have several PVT.'s in my FIST Platoon who have been shot at, blown up, and have called in several Fire Missions at once and they deserve some respect for that. 13F's on the FIST roll with the infantry and call in Mortars, Artillery, Apache's and CAS. We get alot of respect because in the worse situations we come through and **** up the enemy's day. On a FIST you will probably be on the front line and youll probably get shot at alot. Just remember if your a new 13F dont get the attitude that ur a bada*s FISTER because even Pvt's will hurt your feelings. Being called a FISTER does NOT come with the MOS, it has to be earned.
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FFE |
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Well said FISTER!! I may be an E-5 but I still learn a ton from my subordinates that have a ton of experience that I have yet to aquire.
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