Is it probable for a Sailor to make Chief in 10 years? I'm not asking this because I want to get Chief in 10 years, but I met a sailor the other day that says he turned 18 and joined a few months after Vietnam (1975) and then make Chief in 1985. Could this happen?
Yes. many sailors who have done well in service schools have been picked for accelerated advancement. In the mid 1960's I saw many sailors advance to CPO in just over 7 years. ET's were a prime example.
Thanks. The man I talked to was a PN, he went through military customs school, maybe that was what helped. He became a seabee and picked up Chief while there.
i know of a few people who have made CPO in less than 10 years. sailors who sail through the ranks have several common traits...they begin with strong technical knowledge and are shored up with strong leadership traits...it also helps to be in a rating that is undermaned...a substained record of superior performance will get you there above your peers.
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Originally posted by Barret163: Is it probable for a Sailor to make Chief in 10 years? I'm not asking this because I want to get Chief in 10 years, but I met a sailor the other day that says he turned 18 and joined a few months after Vietnam (1975) and then make Chief in 1985. Could this happen?
In 1989 I made Chief with a "Red Stripe" Chief.. was an AW... At COP Leadership school, 1990, in Little Creek met a "Red Stripe" SCPO.. a nuke MM.. was a PO3 out of school..
Originally posted by Boats22151: If I remember right it is possible. The best way to answer the question is to get a copy of the advancement manual and review the time-in-rate tables.
Boats--
If I remember correctly, there was a guy running around the forum after last year's selection board who was a 10 year chief. I only remeber because he was an AT like my hubby, and I thought he was a little bit of a jerk. all in MHO, mind you.
Here's hoping third time is a charm for my hubby this year.
It is possible. I was pinned at my 6 year, 3 month mark. Everyone said it was impossible, but I was lucky enough to have amazing mentors and awesome Chiefs to guide me through my brief career. It's been good times since!
I'm not sure how it was in the 80's, but I would think it would be more likely now. With early promotes and such, I would think you could make it much quicker now. My Grandfather Picked up Chief at 7, Master Chief at 13, this was in the 60's and 70's. I picked it up at 6 in 06. With the draw downs in the 80's, did things change?
I'm not sure how it was in the 80's, but I would think it would be more likely now. With early promotes and such, I would think you could make it much quicker now. My Grandfather Picked up Chief at 7, Master Chief at 13, this was in the 60's and 70's. I picked it up at 6 in 06. With the draw downs in the 80's, did things change?
First and foremost, the board has to have "vacancies" for CPO. If no vacancies or quotas exist, then making CPO could be a long process? If your rating is promoting you could do it in 6 or 7 years? But, you'll need to have a vast amount of leadership under your belt to get picked up? 6 years is not a lot of experience...but it happens every year!
Yes it is certainly vacancy driven. I and lot of ET's that came along when I did saw this up close and personal.
All through the 80's we would see them make around 130 ETCS's every year and around 330 ETC's a year I was one of those in 88.
This was before we had all the different flavors of ET's that they have today.
Then the downsizing of the 90's set in and for years those numbers were single digits, as I remember 6 the first year I was up for ETCS, so there we sat better than 1000 of us ETC's going up for less than 10 spots, a selection rate of less than 1% for years many of us like myself not eligible for any of the early out programs because of the NEC's we had. I retired in 01
It got a little better toward the end but I don't remember that number ever getting back anywhere close to 100, around 60 is as high as I remember,and of course that was after absorbing the DS's the sub RM's the sub QM's and the IM's, all rates who in the old days would have had there own quotas
Come to RTC. You'll meet tons of them. Lots of folks have a problem with it. Ive been in for 14 years and have yet to make Chief. I for one, do not have a problem with guys picking up Chief with under 10. If they hard chargers, then they shouldnt be held back. Look at it this way, if a guy makes Chief in 8 years, imagine the wealth of knowledge this guy will have at 18. 10 years in the mess? What a resource for his fellow Chiefs and Sailors.
Lots of folks have a problem with it. Ive been in for 14 years and have yet to make Chief. I for one, do not have a problem with guys picking up Chief with under 10. If they hard chargers, then they shouldnt be held back.
No problem or complaints from me. Actually ...my "RATING" doesn't select Chiefs at the 6,7,or8 year mark. Well, at least not in the last 10 years. So no problem on my end. If it happens, it happens. You really can't control how someone grades or scores your record?
First and foremost, the board has to have "vacancies" for CPO. If no vacancies or quotas exist, then making CPO could be a long process? If your rating is promoting you could do it in 6 or 7 years? But, you'll need to have a vast amount of leadership under your belt to get picked up? 6 years is not a lot of experience...but it happens every year!
Quote: "First and foremost, the board has to have "vacancies" for CPO. If no vacancies or quotas exist, then making CPO could be a long process? If your rating is promoting you could do it in 6 or 7 years? But, you'll need to have a vast amount of leadership under your belt to get picked up? 6 years is not a lot of experience...but it happens every year!"
He hit it right on the head. Quatas are billet driven. I made Chief in 11 years as an AW, and a year before i was eligble for AWCS they merged all the aircrewman into AW's. The quotas went from an avg. of 24 AWCS's to 8. My point is advancment opportunity is cyclical, hopefully you catch a up side at the right time.
