Hard to believe that after 200 years of CPO indoctrinations, that it is determined not to be acceptable behavior. The indoctrination activity needs to be controlled I agree, but
ask any chief that went through indoctrination how he felt. First every man jack (male/female)
survived, that would say positive things, talk about GREAT comradery, had fun, and most of all they help to carry on a naval TRADITION.

You can not replace that with putting a roof on some house, giving a lecture to school kids. It is the glue that bonds Chiefs together and something to always remember. Only one Chief knows what anyother Chief had to endure to be called "Chief".....

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after 200 years of CPO indoctrinations

Not to be nit picky, but Chiefs have only been around for about 115 years. But I agree with what you're saying.

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Originally posted by TMC_SW_Ret:

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after 200 years of CPO indoctrinations

Not to be nit picky, but Chiefs have only been around for about 115 years. But I agree with what you're saying.

LOL, really Sr. Did you fall alseep during your initiation?

To be semi geezerly here, concerning the 200 years comment. When I received my CPO certificate in March 1974 I remember that it stated to the effect " for nearly 200 years, Chiefs ......". Wish I could find that thing. But anyhoo, In later years that "200 years" statement changed to reflect the time when when the rate of Chief Petty Officer was established. It is a little amazing how much USN & USCG tradition was established from similar roots.

In recent years the USN Historical Center has put out a number af articles concerning the CPO, and this excerpt might prove of interest.

"History of the Chief Petty Officer Grade
by CWO-4 Lester B. Tucker, USN (Retired)
Reprinted from Pull Together: Newsletter of the Naval Historical Foundation and the Naval Historical Center, Vol. 32, No. 1 (Spring-Summer 1993).



It is a sure bet that one of the proudest days in an enlisted individual's naval service is the date on which a first class petty officer dons the uniform and is accepted into the Chief Petty Officer community. At this time, the PO1's leadership and professional abilities are recognized by superiors. These qualities continue to be honed with experience and maturity until retirement.

This article covers the history of the grade of Chief Petty Officer. April 1, 1993, marked the 100th anniversary of the creation of that grade. It is necessary, however, to look back to the origins of the Continental Navy to establish the foundation of relative grades and classifications that led to the ultimate establishment of the CPO grade. During the Revolutionary War, Jacob Wasbie, a Cook's Mate serving on board the Alfred, one of the first Continental Navy warships, was promoted to "Chief Cook" on June 1, 1776. Chief Cook is construed to mean Cook or Ship's Cook which was the official rating title at that time. This is the earliest example of the use the term "Chief" located to date by the author. "

So the " for nearly 200 years, CHIEFS ...." wasn't far off the mark in 1974.

Game, Set, and Match to our most Welcome visitor from the Guardians of the 1 fathom curve.
Well researched, and as always, Well stated!!!

I don't know Rat, I have to disagree with the "Game, set, match" part. Chiefs have only been official since 1 April 1893. I haven't been able to find any official record as to when the first Chief's indoctrination was, but there are a few references to the Charge Books being first used during WWII.

But I definately agree with the Guardians of the 1 fathom curve part.

As always Masters, you have a great storehouse of historical facts and always provide great insight to our discussions. And you take a joke pretty well too.