Something about this makes no sense to me.

Is this a case of special treatment?
Is this the message Big Navy wants to send?

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Sex Crime conviction and Honorable Discharge

I hope he gets special treatment while in prison if you know what I mean...

9 months and retirement, what a joke. He should get no benefits.

Well, I know that I'm going to be the bad guy when I say this, but personally, I'm not a big believer in "sting ops" - if anything, I think THAT should be illegal. Either way, because it was sting ops, I'm not going to upset that he only got nine months.

Well your right, you are the bad guy on this one. So what are the police supposed to do, only wait and for a child to be raped before they do anything...how stupid would that be. We need sting ops like this so we can get these guys off the street before a crime is committed!

well put goondawg...

I bet this was just the first time he was caught, all studies show that these guys do this and fantasize for years and often only get caught after many years..

I am glad he will be a registered sex offender now.

One thing that has never made sense to me was the higher your rank the more leanient they are on you. Take for example I knew of a senior enlisted who had a few dwi and nothing happend a junior enlisted commits the crime of that nature and got a OTH. Or another example was a junior enlisted sleeping with a officer.... I always thought that maybe the higher the rank the stiffer the penalty as they should know better. I felt that letting a high ranking offical off easy sends the wrong message!

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Originally posted by goondawg:
Well your right, you are the bad guy on this one. So what are the police supposed to do, only wait and for a child to be raped before they do anything...how stupid would that be. We need sting ops like this so we can get these guys off the street before a crime is committed!

After the numerous people that he impaled, Vlad Tepes is known best for the reasons whyh he impaled them in the first place - his sting ops. Do we really know for sure what this man would have done? We can't really say. But, he was provoked.

Yes, which is illegal Yggdrasil. Asking or arranging sexual acts with a minor is illegal and should be, right?

Or should a 45 year old man be allowed to proposition a mother of twin daughters for a sexual liaison?

No one told him to act on arranging the get together, someone was merely planted. He wanted to arrange it at a hotel and 'see where things led.'

This guy was the CMC of the base I am stationed at, it makes me sick to think what he has gotten away with.

Ygg-

He was provoked, huh?

If you were "provoked" would you arrange the same?

If it hadn't been a cop on the other side what do you think he would have done to those kids? "See where it goes"?! I mean, why would he even entertain the idea? Obviously he had a reason to have a sting put on him.....I doubt it was the first time he went to some website and talked about this sort of thing.

You have got to be kidding me!

I heard of a similar case involving a Marine MSGT. who was reduced to e-1 and given the BCD after his brig time was up.

This joker walks away with retirement benefits!?!

It gives a whole new meaning to Rank has its privilidges. What happened to honor, courage an committment?

So what if he was reduced in rank. Since he got the Honorable Discharge, once he has completed his 30 years of total military obligation, he will be re-instated to the highest rank held. That means he will be getting retired pay as a Master Chief.

Talk about bull***t! If this gets your ire up too, write your congressman and complain to them. Be respectful and make sure you cite references. I'm writing today.

Hold on a second.

What did this guy do - get discharged or retire? The article cited states two different things. Big difference. Discharge, he gets no pay or benefits. Just what he is allowed based on the character of his discharge. Retired, he gets his retainer, base access (assuming he is allowed on a base by the CO), etc.

Sorry, no sympathy for the guy. Too bad his retainer can't be involuntarily allotted to an organization that helps the victims of crimes of this nature.

I just re-read it and I think they meant he was allowed to retire as a senior chief, and recieved an honorable discharge code on his DD-214.

TMC-I'm writing too

I just finished my letter and fired it off. I'm not too sure about posting it on here, but I am more than willing to send an e-mail copy to anyone who would like to see what I had to say. I wouldn't even be opposed to it being plaigerized a bit.

Chief,

I respectfully request a copy of that letter. My e-mail is cploense@att.net

V/r
Carl M. Ploense III

Chief- I sent mine off, but I'm curious to see how you worded yours. Could you send it to me as well.

One thing though, before we barrage everyone with our complaints.

I heard my 'superiors' talking about this today at work and brought up a good point.

Those benefits are for his family, his wife and kids deserve to be taken care even if he doesn't.

Not ecusing his behavior at all but, his family doe snot deserve to be victimized for this.

No different from any other convicted sex offender's family then......

My tax dollars should never go to provide retirement to a convicted sex offender. Beyond that, with an honorable discharge he is eligible for EVERY VA benefit out there.

Just because it is not any different doesn't mean I am wrong, and you never answered the question?

Does his family deserve to suffer?

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Originally posted by catherine0830:
Ygg-

He was provoked, huh?

If you were "provoked" would you arrange the same?

I'm thinking on the other side, here. I just remember growing up, how cops would do things like park 18-wheelers in the neighborhood, leave the back unlocked, and wait for kids to come along and open the back hatch. The cops would snatch these kids up, and go on the next poor neighborhood and repeat the cycle over again.

In a nutshell, cops were targeting certain people, and looking for (or making) reasons to send them to jail.

Honestly, it is entirely possible that this former CMDCM may have just had mere sick & twisted fantasies that he would not have acted on, were it not for a cop offering him "fulfillment" on a platter.

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