I am prior service on SDV One. Was reading somewhere about this Individual Augmentation. Can anybody explain what this is and how it relates to Navy Dive, EOD and Seal teams?

The only time IA could have an impact on the special programs communities is if the member is stationed at a non-priority command. For example, if a SEAL is at a team or an EOD Tech is at a Mobile Unit they are not subject to IA selection. Most of our folks are already experiencing a very high OPTEMPO and do not get selected for IA assignments.

The Individual Augmentee program is designed to relieve manning pressure on the Army by filling Army billets in Africa, Iraq, and Afganistan with Navy and Air Force Personnel. They will serve for a deployment cycle. While some do not like it others who whould never have an opportunity to be in a combat zone can provide there support to give Army members some family time.

Thanks I think I have the picture. My concern for special unit Navy dive teams I guess would be this. Its not that they are not willing to get in the fight on the contrary. However, what you have is very highly trained navy operators being augmented into much less trained and motivated black shoe Army units which increases the probability of some of our team mates getting hurt unnecessarily. Obviously the Army has their high speed units as well but it does not sound as if that is were the augmentation process is happening. To all you Navy Dive Team guys that are serving in combat thanks for the service and God bless.

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Thanks I think I have the picture. My concern for special unit Navy dive teams I guess would be this. Its not that they are not willing to get in the fight on the contrary. However, what you have is very highly trained navy operators being augmented into much less trained and motivated black shoe Army units which increases the probability of some of our team mates getting hurt unnecessarily. Obviously the Army has their high speed units as well but it does not sound as if that is were the augmentation process is happening. To all you Navy Dive Team guys that are serving in combat thanks for the service and God bless.

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I seem to not be grasping the terminology of your posts. Your Profile does not reflect your past Naval expeience. Would you be so kind as to go to my Profile and send me your true iden?

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No prob Sb5. I was ND on Seal Delivery One Detachment Hawaii (that was before they relocated the whole team to HI). As I said I am out now, I had heard about this IA program and was under the impression that Navy Diver, EOD and Seal personnel were being pulled away from there teams to augment regular Army units. Neod explained that pretty well for me thanks for the help.

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No prob Sb5. I was ND on Seal Delivery One Detachment Hawaii (that was before they relocated the whole team to HI). As I said I am out now, I had heard about this IA program and was under the impression that Navy Diver, EOD and Seal personnel were being pulled away from there teams to augment regular Army units. Neod explained that pretty well for me thanks for the help.

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Thanks for your replies. My queries were all satisfied.

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I'm not sure that the Army Infantry is "far less trained" than Navy Divers in the realm of combat. But whatever.

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I'm not sure that the Army Infantry is "far less trained" than Navy Divers in the realm of combat. But whatever.

Care to explain yourself?

You're intruding on the SEAL area and THEIR discussion, have 3 posts all in the Navy forums and are "National Guard".

If you reviewed the post, you could see that I am not saying that. What I am saying is that the special programs of the Navy that are represented here are just that. And as such it requires a great deal of training and motivation to get through therefore they are very valuable to the Navy. Additionally I was asking what the IA program was and how it related to the Navy special programs not speaking as an authority. And as you can see by the posts from active Navy personnel the special programs are not affected very often anyway. As far as being far better trained in the arena of combat that would depend on where a Navy Diver EOD Tech etc. was detailed, Diver and EOD personnel are routinely assigned to Special Warfare commands as well as other combat units. Are you even in Special Ops in the Army?

I served in a Navy Battalion with over 300 deployed IA sailors in Iraq last year and not one of us was pulled from a special program. Those guys are just too valuable where they are. Most of us were Admin types who wanted to get out from behind our desks and do what God put us here to do

Yeah, when I was a MM on the Roosevelt, guys were jumping at the chance to fill an IA billet. They were being turned away. I wonder how it works now.

At my command a few IAs come open every month or so and they always get filled by volunteers immediately. People are crazy about going to Iraq and Afghanistan (in both meanings of the word). I don't know if it has been like this since they started doing IAs (i.e. back when Iraq was dangerous). I'm thinking maybe people see that it's died down quite and figure why not.

SDV, the IA program or GSA program as I think it's called now has gotten bigger and bigger over the last couple years. I've seen many get volentold. Also seen many who volenteered.

As stated above, a lot of the job are admin jobs. A good portion are what the Army calls FOBBITS. Yet there are several billets where our Sailors get in pretty deep. But reguardless of what the job is over there, anythign can happen.

Either way, it's an expereince I think a sailor should have. Toss them somehting new and different to keep them on their toes. A good learning expereince, and to some, a wake-up to whats going on out there. Just as long as they don't get themselves or anybody killed.

I have friends who have gone IA two times or more. Some how have tryed to go and havn't. other who never wanted to go and where sent.

I myself volenteered and sent to A-Stan attached to a COIN trianing unit. Was a great expereince. But somehow when I came back I joined the Army and became an FO. Don't ask. I lost my mind a long time ago.

As far as the bearded ones going IA.. I knew of a reserve one who did. Thats all I know about that.

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Thanks for the replies guys.