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Truth lies in the depth  |
Possible new troll on my nursing website, that I frequent; Can anyone verify this? Is it true that SEAL's didn't get much dive training in Nam?
"I started out with Lco 75th Rangers 68-70. i returned to states and wasnt happy hence returned to Vietnam. i was invited to be a medic with members of SEAL Team 2. it was the beginning of Delta Force. i took them up. i recieved a GSW to R knee about 10 months in tour after my rehab it was off to California to the official school. the dive training i recieved at the school was minimal because we did little diving in Vietnam and that where i was headed i was with SEAL Team 2 and then later 4. 1970-71 Vietnam i also worked with several members in 84-86. we were civilians at the time ( well not really civilians ) and were vacationing ( well not really vacationing) in Honduras and spent our time training the Contras. my favorite memory in my history was about 85. we were told to board a C-130. we were not told the reason but we were leaving for another Central American Country. we left Honduran Airspace at 0330 with 2 fighter escorts. After crossing over El Salvadorian airspace with in 30 minutes later we were told this was only a training mission and we returned to base. i found out later; two nuns and a priest had been captured by a gurrelia group. the preist had been killed during the rebels attack but the two nuns were realeased as soon as they found out a miltary group was on the way to rescue them. the reason i like this is not one shot was fired but the threat alone was enough to accomplish the mission" |
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Look up pownetwork.org on the internet - they have a list of folks that were exposed as posers and may be able to help you.
I'm no SEAL, etc., but from what you post I have my doubts about their honesty. |
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"Be nice, until it's not time to be nice"  |
Wouldn't matter, if diving was'nt done a lot where they were going, IMO. SEALs live in the water, and I would imagine would go through the same dive training every time. But, someone who knows a whole lot more than me, may be along to help.
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I know this is not my place to say anything but I just had to say, wasn't "Delta" formed in 1977?
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"Be nice, until it's not time to be nice" |
Easy way, ask him his BUD/S class number. If it's 'secret' he's a liar.
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Truth lies in the depth |
 He's already deleted one post, where he spoke about 3 surgeries to his knee as a result of a gsw. I got the above line of BS, when I asked him where he did his dive training/cert.... http://www.nursinglink.com/top...ecame-a-nurse-/posts His post is 3/4 of the way down....I've emailed him that its a federal offence to claim special forces status. I'll see what happens. |
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Lead Mod Navy and Recconect America Forums catherine0830@msn.com Democracy will survive until the government figures out it can bribe the people with their own money. |
wait for sb5. He can help.
BTW long time no see. Hope things are going well! |
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Truth lies in the depth |
Yea, busy busy..moved up to PA, started a new job at a hospital, bought a new house, life keeps on moving and I'm running just to keep up!
I still can't stand trolls though!!! |
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What is this guys Name?
I'm training for SWCC & taking the PST's. My Mentor was on SEAL team 2 in 1968 & did 2 tours in Viet Nam. I could ask him if you give this guys Name. I will see my Mentor tomarrow for our PST. |
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Lead Mod Navy and Recconect America Forums catherine0830@msn.com Democracy will survive until the government figures out it can bribe the people with their own money. |
Or, we could just wait for our resident SEAL authenticator. http://forums.military.com/eve...561001#4080042561001 |
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touche', catherine0830
lol |
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Truth lies in the depth |
Yikes, I really fired up 'firefighter' aka SEAL.
I got the following from him after I told him it was a federal offence, and that Delta Force didn't start until 77..... "smart ass do what you want. i have documetation and it wasnt Delta Force at the time. it was the beginning to see if members of different branches of the service could get along with out killing each other. so do what you want bi*ch. i went to nursing school in 74 and the numbers more than add up. i am 57 ***** years old." MY BAD, he didn't delete the post with the gsw, I just couldn't find it in all the threads, but here it is nursinglink.com "Short term and long term; As far as short term. I seem to do ok. I am a former Navy Seal and Ernurse times 25 years. I am a firefighter and also a member of Dive Rescue. With short term stress I can block it and complete the mission; simply goal oriented. This does cause some stress on the marriage though because I find myself blocking her at times. An example is I have taped NASCAR Races on some Sundays and as soon as I got off work went into the study turned in on surround sound. My wife told me, “You walk in door and don’t say hi to me or kids and go to study and turn us out”. I told her, “don’t take offense or take it personal but I have had all the damn people I can take for today------give me just one hour and I will be back”. I just need about an hour That’s not good Long term stress is killing me. I have only 40% hearing in my ears due to loud noises in the military. I have had a heart cath and got rooted out. My Bp is getting out of sight and I take 0.5 of Xanax to sleep at night. Needless to say I now have to take Cialis on a rare occasion. I have had a GSW to R knee in military and after 3 surgeries I am wearing down. It ain’t all bad. I doubt my stress is worse than the rest of yawl’s. I work out at a gym regular. I am 6-0 and 212. My hobby is power lifting. I am madly in love with my wife and kids and of course grandkids now. My wife and I now take escapes. Our kids are 22, 24 and 26. if they need to get us they can call 911 and I have a pager otherwise they don’t need to know. My wife and I get couples massages also and love them. We think they are therapeutic and also sensual if in imagination only. I love aroma therapy. This former Navy Seal has a whirlpool and I love my Vaseline intensive care granules and cotton blossom soap. We float the Buffalo River in west Tn on occasions. Have a great day dave" Wouldn't a real SEAL know that SEAL is all caps? |
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For those wishing my comments, there is a lot missing in the claim. (1) Did he return to the States as an Active Army? (2) Under what service or civilian status did he return to Vietnam? (3) Under what circumstances was he invited to be a Medic in a SEAL Team, and who released him from his then assignment, what ever it was? (4) What type of "minimal" diving was he trained at? (5) How did this civilian's C-130 know what happened on the ground in El Salvador to cause termination of the air mission? I read poppycock. |
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Truth lies in the depth |
Thanks, greatful for your input;
I've asked him the ? of what BUD's class he was, and who his swim buddy was, and I have gotten no response..... BTW, I used to be attached to the Periscope shop at Subase Pearl (83-86 former OM2), the back of the building was also occupied by the seabees. Anyone there at that time? |
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"Be nice, until it's not time to be nice" |
Did they do anything, other than sit around and drink beer? |
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LOL, now that you say that we were across the street from the club....Hell, even I was at the club half the time. Man do I miss those days, when it was legal to have a beer with lunch.
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Navy Forums Moderator Sick and tired of being sick and tired.  |
I read his posts over there. He's full of sh it. "Army Ranger, Navy Seal (I know, it should be SEAL, but that's the way he spelled it.), Cotton and Soybean Farmer, Worked for the “company” training contras in Central America, EMT, Firefighter, Nurse.
I have a very good friend who worked for "the company", shoot me his name, I will check that angle for you. |
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Yea, and on more than one occassion and when it was pointed out about the incorrect spelling, he blamed it on 'spell check'.  BoatsBM1 |
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Truth lies in the depth |
I kinda figured he was a phony. The real McCoy, doesn't tell stuff like that. My problem fella's is that a lot of my female friends, don't know how to spot trouble. They get sucked in by BS, and get taken to the cleaners.
Dave AKA firefighter38310 AKA PHONY from Adamsville Tennessee, has not returned my personal query RE which BUD's class and who his swim buddy is. He also hasn't made ANY more postings on nursinglink.com I hope it stays that way, and another troll bites the dust. |
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"Be nice, until it's not time to be nice" |
Hell, they probably built the club. |
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Navy Forums Moderator Sick and tired of being sick and tired. |
Once you have determined the person is a poser (i.e. too many medals, won't answer probing e-mail questions, skirts any issues brought up, etc.), call them out in public. Public humiliation is a good way to get rid of wannabe posers. Of course you should preface your calling out with the facts of why you think they are a poser. And make sure you do your homework, as you've done with this one. |
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"Be nice, until it's not time to be nice" |
I just read firefighter's post on teh nurse link. What a total douch bag,lol. I like how the gal right below him, called him on the capitalization of SEAL.
I'm pretty sure a 'company' man who had trained contras, wouldn't advertise that fact on an internet site. What an azz clown! |
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Truth lies in the depth |
Lol Bill,
Look at Kittyrn's profile...it's me! I'm the one that called him out. |
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I have perhaps outed 4 or 500 guys who sweet talked a female into some form of love exercise while the BSing guys used the professional swoon line of being a SEAL. I don't feel sorry for these females who put their thought of heroism over respect and dependability when it comes to choosing a romantic partner. And TMC makes an excellent point. Before you post some guy as being a suspect poser, insure of your suspicions. Maybe ask the guy? When an innocent guy gets his name posted on a Web perhaps several hundred read that "poser" post and mud is draped all over a guy who may of just been ships comapny on a vessel that transported SEALs, and the suspect poser voiced his knowledge of "working with SEALs". With the Teams I sailed on an LCI, APA (several), aircraft, 5 APD's, several LST's, and even a ASR. All these mediums of Ships Company have the right to say they "worked with SEALs." Be more careful who you call out as a poser on an open Web. I have already burnt the skin off the backside of several quick lip Reporting Persons who publicly tried to "out" a true SEAL. Or, I insure the person being outed really voiced sufficient words of "I was a graduate SEAL" before I burn any butts. Authenticating is a learned craft. Be sure of your target and hit the 10 spot when you post someone's name as a poser. Innocent people deserve the benefit of the doubt. As an example, if a knowledgeable Navy member overheard me speak small snippets of my service I could easily become a suspect poser. But after questioning me I could put such worries to rest. Yes, I had a very unusual service life that I did Retire from. |
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Nice one. I like how he says, few would have caught it, like that makes it OK. I say again, what an azz clown |
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Truth lies in the depth |
OK; it's my belief that the individual in question is David A *****.
I googled his handle Firefighter38310; and came up with several websites listing similiar stories (SEAL & nurse), all using first name "Dave", and referring to a wife 'angie' all from Adamsville, TN. Next I went to the TN Board of Nursing and looked up all nurses with the first name of Dave....from Adamsville tn (yes, you can do that,). I came up with that name,as an LPN, since 1978....crosschecked that with a freepeople search of David O**** from Adamsville, and this individual is married to an 'angie'. It's a trail, but I think it's a fair guess that is who it is. I realize it's not a 100% but it's a valid trail. On buddy finder, he is listed as US Army, no mention of Navy service. I came back and edited this because I didn't know if it was cool or not to post the name... This message has been edited. Last edited by: abloodragon, |
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Abloodragon
I would like to accomodate you. However, I do not want to put my email address up as that would invite I don't know how many hopefuls to ask "How do I become a SEAL." I just reviewed my own Profile and the button that used to be there to send Private Messages no longer exists. If someone can figure the advantage of taking away Private Mail, or how to send Private Mail it would be helpful to those who wish to exchange without exposing their personal email address. |
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It's pretty easy to spot a phony SEAL. Most of them were ST-2 or ST-6, they can't give you a BUD/S class number that fits in with their age and period of supposed service. SOCNET has a verification spot in the Navy section and the "Keeper" has a data base of the names and class numbers of EVERY UDT and SEAL that ever graduated. I just nailed a phony SEAL/POW to Chuck and Mary Schontag's wall over at POW Network. The ass hat told a buddy of mine that he'd been a SEAL in Vietnam who had been captured and rescued a few days later by his team (NO UDT OR SEAL HAS EVER BEEN CAPTURED IN ANY WAR) He gave his class number as 196 which graduated in late 1994 and later changed it to 197 which graduated in Feb, 1995 (The last class that had members who could have served in Vietnam was class 80.)He then proceeded to bad mouth me to my buddy (an AF SPEC-OPS Pilot who is retired)telling him "That Motherfuxxer was never a Green Beret. (Apparently I had verbally abused him several months earlier when I sotted him wearing a SEAL "Budweiser" on his motorcycle vest and called him out as a phony.) After talking to his American Legion ost Commander I was shown his DD-214 which they had on file. He was an Aviation BM-1 who was stationed on the USS INTREPID and who was discharged for disability at Lakehurst Naval Air Station, NJ in 1972. He did rate a Vietnam Service Medal because he was offshore during the war. He was injured in the accident that occured on board when a rocket got loose and blew up some planes on the flight deck.He had honorable service. It's a shame he had to tell ******** stories and show folks a phony VA POW ID Card. His name is Michael John Strackbein and he is the Service Officer for his AL Post and for Gloucester County, NJ. You can find his story on the phony wall at POW Network.
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Is there a height limit for navy seals?
I'm trying to check out someone my daughter has been talking to (marsoc?)and a friend of his who says he is a Navy SEAL. My husband is retired Navy and my daughter is in her 20's and very bright. She can actually see him when she talks to to him and it all sound very real but every once in a while I hear something that makes all the flags go up. I have been trying to be very careful because I do not want to compromise any security. But this is my daughter! |
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maoms I have never heard of a height limit on SEAL applicants. Your question was a new one on me so I checked my sources and no mention of height was mentioned. I only suppose that if the applicant is a qualified Navy member and the under 28-year olds have to have the weight and height distribution for initial enlistemt, and then the pre-BUDS physical screening test. If anyone can quote Maoms a Reg, MilPers guide please do. |
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That is actually reasuring. This guy is very special to her. He sounds very much like the real deal. He spent a long time talking to her before he let her know what he did and is more likely to downplay himself then to brag. I guess it was just easier to go through deployments myself then to watch her do it.
She is beautiful and in med. school so she sound a little too good to be true herself. Thanks for the reply |
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easiest way to do this is to become friends with each other and then you will be able to exchange PMs. There can be no freedom without sacrifice |
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new to this. how?
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Maoms I am sure you will get a reply, but to whom are you addressing your query? |
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sorry I hit send then realized you were talking to someone else.
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Hijacking the thread a bit.... I have hit the Send key when having the wrong female's address in the address block. How ebarrassing. Takes eons of explaining. Girls are not that easy to explain about other girls. Maoms I have seen plenty of older. General Service Navy personnel who were rotund, but none that were so tall they could not fit on a ship. Naval Aviation has a height restriction so a graduate pilot can fit in a cockpit. But in the Teams I have seen all sizes, and all had weight and height porportionate to their body silouette. |
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abloodragon - you are right. It all matches. David was in the Army, discharged an E3, MOS was 91A, served Nov 68 till Aug 71. We're requesting his records, and POSTING as a phony SEAL. |
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POWNET,
Take a look at this one: "http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner%7Ey2009m7d16-Testimony-of-CIA-assassin-recruited-from-Navy-SEALs-goes-online-with-documents" I've already verified he was not a SEAL. This message has been edited. Last edited by: TMC_SW_Ret, |
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He is already listed on the pownetwork website. HENNESSY, Derek aka Connor O’Ryan 07/2009 . THE FAIRY TALE *http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies524.htm BoatsBM1 This message has been edited. Last edited by: BoatsBM1, |
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