My situation, currently serving second tour in the sandbox, stop lossed by Army. Due back CONUS next year, am an E6, hold two MI MOS's (Signals Intel Analyst and Interrogator) how much work would I need to do to enlist into the CG as an IS? Would my army MI training be good enough? How much of a pay cut would I need to take?

Thanks,

SSG Scott

SSG Scott,

Thanks for inquiring. Sorry to hear about the Stop Loss thing. I can only tell you what has been the norm and happening lately so, don't take what I say as "set is stone". I'm sure your recruiter, Master Chief, or any other helpful soul could also give you some more info. Basically, from what I understand the CG is really hurting for E-4 still in the IS field. You would most likely come right over easily and probably pick up E-5 pretty fast. You will not have to go to our boot camp. Perhaps a brief 4 week thing called "Pit Stop", but maybe not. You might have to take a pretty hefty pay cut, but then again...maybe not. Of course as E-4's you are still eligible for BAH, BAS, Sea Pay, COLA (depending where you are stationed) so, if you factor some of those in...it might not be that much of a cut. I'm not sure if you're married or single. But allow me to tell you that I think you even considering coming over to the USCG is a great decision. This rate just started in January and will only grow in time. Plus with your skills and background...you would really would have a leg up on a lot of people. You would make a great asset, however, I don't know all details. I suggest getting with a local recruiter (www.uscg.mil) and ask around and see what your options are. Hope this helps and good luck.

Much thanks for the info, when I get back I will be sure to contact you guys.

SSG;
If you have time and/or ability, try to add a DLP of 2+/2+ (or better) in Sp to your resume. Not needed, just will make you look a lot better.

All already got that, 3/3 actually thanks for the info.

In spanish? If so, you just made one guys day! (The guy that will decide if and what paygrade you come in as)

Yup Spanish, I am a native speaker.

Great. Just an interesting note - it is interesting that as a native speaker you got a 3/3. Simply thought would be that native speakers have a leg up, but then when they take the test, they bomb it. (Of course, it there were an 'english' DLP, I'd bet most emglish speakers couldn;t get a 3/3! )

anyways, make absloutely certain you never fail to leave out that fact you are CURRENT DLP 3/3 when you talk to anyone in relation to becoming a CG IS. (do your best to make sure you stay current)

Good Luck

Very true, main because Native speakers here in the US never learn the "proper" language. Lucky for me my parents were the language nazis.

I had to put my 2 cents on this one.

First thing: What is "Proper" Spanish?? Is there such a thing?? Are you talking Spain (Castillian) Spanish, or any of the dozens of countries that have spanish, in one form or another, as their native language??

Second: I am in complete disagreement with your statement that native speakers here never learn the "proper" language. On the contrary, we are exposed to people from every single spanish speaking country in the world since we are lucky enough to live in such a melting pot of cultures. IMHO that statement is your opinion, nothing more.

I find that most people who get a score of 3-3, specially on the new DLPT 5 have taken it more than once or are good with Spain's spanish. That said, I can attest that having a score of 3-3 does not mean you will know every dialect of the spanish language and that my friend is one of the things that the CG is looking for in linguists. Not 3-3 scores but people who can establish a proffesional conversation with a guy from northern Spain at the same level that of a guy from the DF in Mexico, or one of the many Dominicans from La Romana, Dom Rep. I can go on with the many countries that deal directly or indirectly with the CG. Nuff said.

BTW thats is my opinion based on where I work and what we do on a day to day basis.

Orestes;
My opinion is based on looking at EVERY single application package for the stand up of the IS rating, along with submitted DLP scores and other discussions with folks in the DLP program about DLP scores. Of course, DLP score is not always a perfect indicator of success in a translator, interpreter or linguist job, but it is obvioulsy a good enough indicator to by the yard stick used.
MC

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Originally posted by Coastie63J20:
BTW thats is my opinion based on where I work and what we do on a day to day basis.

Thus the reason you're not in a position to make such decisions.

This guy could bring a lot to the table. Deal with it.

llopsided,

Glad to hear you're interested in possibly joining the CG as an IS. As my shipmates have already pointed out, it appears you have some skills we are interested in.

If your still interested, the next step is to contact your local USCG recruiter. They have a list of each services MOSs that we are accepting lateral applications from. Army's are either 96B, 96D, 97B, 97E, 98C or 98G. If the recruiter gives you the dear in the headlight look when you ask about possibly lateraling over as an IS, ask that they give me a call.

ISCM David Rochefort
IS Rating Force Master Chief

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:
Orestes;
My opinion is based on looking at EVERY single application package for the stand up of the IS rating, along with submitted DLP scores and other discussions with folks in the DLP program about DLP scores. Of course, DLP score is not always a perfect indicator of success in a translator, interpreter or linguist job, but it is obvioulsy a good enough indicator to by the yard stick used.
MC

MC,
My apologies if it looked like I was directing my comment to you, I was not. You and I already have discussed this in detail and we agree in a lot of things. My comments were mostly at the "Proper" spanish comment to which i strongly disagree.

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Originally posted by GSX_R750:

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Originally posted by Coastie63J20:
BTW thats is my opinion based on where I work and what we do on a day to day basis.

Thus the reason you're not in a position to make such decisions.

This guy could bring a lot to the table. Deal with it.

Good leadership example there!

I was never implying that I wanted to make the decision. My comments were as to the use of the term "proper" Spanish.

And btw I was in his shoes as I was an E5 98G in the Army Prior to wearing blue so the transition from the Army to the CG is not new to me.

Am I against army guys coming over? Of course not!! But his statement that native Spanish speakers who live here somehow are not speaking the "proper" Spanish is insulting to say the least.

Hopes this clarifies any and all statements I made on this.

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Originally posted by Ryandan:


Army's are either 96B, 96D, 97B, 97E, 98C or 98G. If the recruiter gives you the dear in the headlight look when you ask about possibly lateraling over as an IS, ask that they give me a call.

ISCM David Rochefort
IS Rating Force Master Chief

MC,

I currently hold 97E and 98C and am cleared TS. Any chance you could provide an email address so I could contact you as soons as I get back from this dust bowl and discuss my options?

Much appreciated,

SSG Scott

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MC,
My apologies if it looked like I was directing my comment to you, I was not. You and I already have discussed this in detail and we agree in a lot of things. My comments were mostly at the "Proper" spanish comment to which i strongly disagree.

No sweat shipmate.

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But his statement that native Spanish speakers who live here somehow are not speaking the "proper" Spanish is insulting to say the least.

...think of it in context of either you or I speaking "proper" english, which neither of us likely do....

...That was my intention, and I am sure his too.

llopsided,

my e-mail address:
david.i.rochefort@uscg.mil

ISCM Rochefort