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I am sure this question has been answered somewhere else but didn't feel like reading the whole thread...

Then WTF do we post these threads if knuckleheads like you don't want to take the time and read!? Do us a favor, go back, read, and then ask your question and stop being a lazy turd. You want the job... read the fine print.

Not only you're an a*s...but you're an f*cking dumb a*s as well...Do me a favor and take your sh*tty attitude somewhere else and quit wasting our time with your rude comments. Every post you make is a waste of bandwidth.

Get f\/cked you piece of ****. Not only is he taking his time to respond to your question, he's a Marine and you are not. I hope to God you choose another branch of service, cause you clearly don't have the thick skin it takes to be one of us.

If you took a minute to read some of his replies, you'll notice that he never replied to any questions but instead just started cussing and swearing for no obvoius reason. Or maybe you also don't know how to read?

You two make me sad...I am ashamed that you are a part of our great military.

Moneer81, what you have to realize is that there are many wannabes on these forums who possess a lot of good info and would like to share it. But, at the same time there are many who post bogus info that they've dreamed up or misunderstood when they were told it. To eliminate bogus information going around on this particular forum, Marines don't take too well to wannabes posting anything but questions, since this is a Q&A forum. If you read the rules posted at the top of the forum, and abide by them, you will find that you can learn a lot simply by reading other wannabe's threads, and posting an odd question here and there.

You all may be right the schools suck etc!

Slow boring and non combative etc.

Heads up on my little tour somewhere.

I was in a foreign country and I met a guy that spoke 7 languages fluently which I was amazed.

I spent one night with him in a bar the bar closed and he said something I did not understand due to it was not a language I have ever heard so I stood there dumb founded.

The bar emptied and there stood me and him and drinks kept coming.

I spent the weekend with this soldier and trust me we had an all access tour of where we were at with all the bennys of being a MIP.

I think in my eyes I was lost in his we were just having fun.

But in the end regardless of where I was at I learned them guys call the shots at times them guys have it made etc.

It does not mean thats the way it is today but trust me I am sure you get your bennys.

When I left where I was I found out he was an interogator for his country and if you seen his pysique I assure you I am sure he got the job done proficiently!!!

But in they end he had life by the balls so regardless of boring school life it has its perks trust me.

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Moneer81, what you have to realize is that there are many wannabes on these forums who possess a lot of good info and would like to share it. But, at the same time there are many who post bogus info that they've dreamed up or misunderstood when they were told it. To eliminate bogus information going around on this particular forum, Marines don't take too well to wannabes posting anything but questions, since this is a Q&A forum. If you read the rules posted at the top of the forum, and abide by them, you will find that you can learn a lot simply by reading other wannabe's threads, and posting an odd question here and there.

Thanks for the polite words. Now why do people have to throw insults whenever I ask a question? A lot of people here like yourself are respectful and reflect a good moral character but many others unfortunately reflect a very bad example, especially for young recruits and non-soldiers.

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If you took a minute to read some of his replies, you'll notice that he never replied to any questions but instead just started cussing and swearing for no obvoius reason. Or maybe you also don't know how to read?

You two make me sad...I am ashamed that you are a part of our great military.

Negative... YOU are the one who does not take the time to read what we post on these threads. Example:

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I am sure this question has been answered somewhere else but didn't feel like reading the whole thread...

For someone who is in a relationship and wrote "Not that I care too much but I have a serious girlfriend," and comes up with stupid response "...should we invade the Vatican, your knowledge of Latin might be a hot commodity!" I sure am glad you aren't joining my Marine Corps. You make it easy for those who contribute 100% effort in an organization that asks for far more. You definitely do not have what it takes to become a Marine. You need to grow thicker skin, and use common sense, which you lack.

Join up and then make those comments. When something isn't going your way. It's the pecking order of this organization. It isn't polite. It isn't kind. It's mean it's stupid and it's brutal.

When someone beneath me f's up majorly I don't calmly explain to them why they f'd up. I rip them a new one and punish them for that mistake.

Be glad you're not a Marine and can make erroneous statements like that. But don't expect to come to OUR home and speak like that.

I spent 8 months in Iraq, dodging bullets, doing lame as patrols, and running IED sweeps up and down our damn section of the desert. Don't you dare call my military service into question until you've served yourself.

On to your question, you would have to take the DLPT (Defense Language Proficiency Test) for Reading, Listening, and an Oral Proficiency Interview. Based on your scores you can be placed in the Translator MOS Ken spoke of. As a non-citizen I'm almost positive you can't hold a clearance, but you could certainly use your language skills. You'd recieve FLIP (Foreign Language Incentive Pay) as well for being able to speak a critical language. The pay would vary based on your skill level.

I'm currently studying Arabic and will be for another 54 weeks, only reason I know even the slightest bit about languages and the military.

But know this, you come here, you play by OUR rules. Don't go mouthing off to a Marine again.

Perhaps this is a stupid question, but why don't they allow non-citizens to be linguists in the military? I mean, they would be the ones who would speak the languages best, complete with vernaculars and accents not easily learned through schooling.

BECAUSE ALL FOREIGNERS ARE SPIES!!!

Plain and simple. Non citizens can't get a TS/SCI. And from my experiences at DLI, native speakers have a harder time passing the DLPT because they don't understand the english on the test.

Well I speak Fluent Spanish but would I be able to learn more languages there?

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Well I speak Fluent Spanish but would I be able to learn more languages there?

Learn where? Can you please elaborate on your question.

Sorry I should've been more specific, tomorrow I get the opportunity to meet with a Recruiter, but I still have not decided what MOS I would like to try out for, But I would like to know a bit more about MOS 2700 so I will ask him/her a bit more about it, but I would like to know if Linguist have the opportunity to learn more languagesor if they offer any type of classes where I could learn more languages.

Read the first post, and that might answer some of your questions.

This is a very hard MOS to get into as you need to have a high clearance plus the shcool is very, very hard.....think twice about this...

Hi everyone,

My name is Marcus Canty, prior service GAANG 19D (Bradley Cavalry Scout), Troop E 108th CAV and USMA @ West Point, NY C/0 2005 [Major: Russian/French]. I will be signing papers for USMC DEP within the next 2 weeks and expect to ship off within the next 5-6 months.

I read through this thread and there is a lot of valuable information on the 2700 MOS. I just finished speaking with my recruiter again today and he advised me to go through the process of applying for this MOS even though I had concerns about a TS/SCI Clearance, for continuity sake from the posts I started a few days ago.

The question at hand now is: Although, I have acquired basic conversational skills in French, Russian, and Spanish, I recognize our military's need for Farsi, Pushtu/Poshto (I've seen various spelling on the forum and various sources, so please correct me where I am wrong), and Arabic.

My questions to my recruiter were:

(a) Do I have to pick one of these languages to test for?
(b) Can I test for all three of these languages?
(b2) If so, will I be able to maintain multiple language designators?
(c) Would have to operate within the language I tested in initially, or can I learn one of the big three (Pushtu, Farsi, Arabic) based on the Corps' needs?
- My logic being, if I score well on the test(s) would that display a propensity for learning foreign languages (especially Russian, because of the Cyrillic alphabet and Slavic base)

I would love to do my part for my country and acquire the skills necessary in Monterrey, CA. Rather than recruiting non-US Citizens for these languages, would the Corps be willing to train me in one of the ME languages?

My recruiter was unclear about this, that is why I decided to ask the question here, after reading such a strong thread on the subject matter.

I will be asking a lot of questions throughout the wannabe forum about various MOS's mainly because, I need a back-up plan due to concern about the TS/SCI Security Clearance, but this is my primary goal (just in case you all notice me bouncing from topic to topic, I don't want to appear scatter-brained). Thank you for your help in advance, and I look forward to any insight anyone may have on this matter.

Respectfully,

Wannabe-SecretSquirrel09

k I go to DLI so I'll try to help you out.. here we go.

(a) Do I have to pick one of these languages to test for?
-The DLAB doesn't test for any specific language, it tests your ability to learn any new language.

(b) Can I test for all three of these languages?
-see above

(b2) If so, will I be able to maintain multiple language designators?
-Not quite sure what you mean by this one..

(c) Would have to operate within the language I tested in initially, or can I learn one of the big three (Pushtu, Farsi, Arabic) based on the Corps' needs?
-You don't really get to pick your language. When you get here they have you fill out a dream sheet where you put your top four choices and they will just assign you to whatever they need you in. Most of the time they don't even follow the rules of the DLAB score in accordance to what CAT your language is.

eh i used my wrong account, im not a poolee.

PFC Conroy,

(b2) If so, will I be able to maintain multiple language designators?
-Not quite sure what you mean by this one..

To clarify, I was asking whether or not one can be officially recognized by the Marines as a linguists in more than one language, i.e. can I be a French/Russian/Spanish/Other Linguists all at once (do you get paid for more than one language if you are proficient in more than one). It's a trite question, and definitely not what I am basing my decision on, but I would like to know (for curiousity sake).

More importantly I am focusing more of my energy on becoming a Marine first,rather than that...

Thank you very much for the information. I was mis-informed as to the subject matter of the DLAB. Congratulations on DLI and good fortune in your career.

Respectfully,

Wannabe-SecretSquirrel09

Sorry for starting a different thread on the topic. But my question:

I took the DLAB (127) a few weeks ago, and my ship date is in June. I'm very excited about this opportunity. I filled out the form (can't remember what it was called, sorry) for the MOS I want (Cryptologic Linguist), and found out that I'm due for a pretty big bonus. I had no idea. My interest in the Corps wasn't money at all; I didn't even ask my recruiter about a bonus.

So my question is about the signing bonus. When do I get it? When I pass the DLPT? My recruiter wasn't sure. It's not really a big deal, though. Again, I'm in this for many reasons, but money isn't one of them.

Thanks in advance.

Wait a second you young stud muffin who is ready take on the world. Linguist, your talking about one of the hardest MOS schools to get through as a Marine. Do you know what happens of you bomb out? The Marine Corps puts you where they need you and you do not get the bonus and you do not get a choice of where or what you do. You get a double wammie, or a double big green winnie. My step daughter went to the same school as you are taking about for the Army, all the branches share this school. She also was going for Arabic, she had a 4 year degree as enlisted with a GPA of 3.92 when graduating from College. She bombed out, the Army put her in intell due to the secuirty clearences you need just to go to this school.

BUT, you are talking about the MARINE CORPS and they will not take any of that into consideration unless if yoiu get lucky to get another MOS calling for a clearence. It could be Guard Duty at the White House or a Nuke Facailty or just a Armory or a Fence Line.

My Point, did your recruiter explain any of this to you young stud muffin ready to take on the world? If he did not, go and talk to him about this as he will either side step the question or let you know what I just explained to you. Think long and hard about this MOS....