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There has been a serious decline with American youth not having the knowledge to speak a foreign language. Current high school curriculum for foreign language studies a little less than 2 years, while Europeans take 5 years and speak 2-3 languages. I noticed how out of touch we were when a few Marines had to translate for our company or battalion while we trained, and relaxed on liberty. Although I am not an 27xx Linguist, I am 03 Infantry, fluent in one foreign language, and understand 2 others. Not only was I able to bridge the gap between the language barrier, but I also did make extra cash in regards to my skill.
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Marines Clever Language Bonus

4 August 2006: The U.S. Marine Corps has announced its plan for allocating extra pay to Marines who speak foreign languages. Before, the most a Marine could get for knowing a much needed foreign language, was $700 a month. That now goes up to $1,000. Typically, Marines who are very good with Arabic, qualify for this bonus. The languages most in demand are Arabic, Farsi (Iranian) and Pushtu (spoken by many Afghans and Pakistanis). One unique aspect of the Marine program is that you can qualify for a $25 a month bonus if you are very good at the several dozen Arabic words and phrases most used in combat. All Marines headed for Iraq are supposed to know these phrases. Now, those who know them best, will get the $25 a month bonus. Very clever use of bonus money. So far, about a thousand Marines have qualified for one language bonus or another, but many more are expected to qualify under the new plan.

My recommendation for you Wannabe's, regardless if you are a high school or college student... enroll in a foreign language! Trust me. This skill will open a plethora of doors.

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FIELD 27, LINGUIST

The linguist OccFld contains skill designator MOS's broken down to identify specific foreign language skills. Qualifications require that Marines obtain and maintain a minimum Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT) skill proficiency level of 2 in at least two out of the three tested areas (listening, reading, and speaking). The DLPT is the current Department of Defense standard to determine foreign language proficiency and maintain quality control . Duties may involve direct supervision and participation in language translation/interpretation activities in support of the full range of military operational and intelligence matters encountered during contingencies, operations, and exercises . Formal schooling is provided to those Marines entering this OccFld as a part of the comprehensive training program for designated Moss within the 02XX (Intelligence), and 267X (Signals Intelligence), OccFlds .

However, required foreign language skills may be obtained through any combination of formal or informal training.
Requirements/Prerequisites

(1) Successfully complete the required course of instruction at the Defense Language Institute . (Note : Individuals may also qualify for this skill designator MOS by demonstrating proficiency in the appropriate language by achieving a minimum level 2 proficiency in both the listening and either the reading or speaking portions of the Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT).

(2) Maintain a current qualifying Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT) score of Reading Level 2/Listening Level 2.

Duties
(1) Conducts bidirectional consecutive interpretation of target language to English and English to target language using phraseology selected to preserve the original intent, meaning, and emphasis.

(2) Phrases ideas to avoid language that is stilted, unnatural, and difficult to understand.

(3) Displays an impartial attitude toward each speaker and to facts and opinions expressed.

(4) Interprets into either English or foreign language statements made by participants in conferences, working parties, and all similar activities.

(5) Interviews friendly non-English speaking civilians such as police, clergymen, and other citizens to obtain information of military value.

(6) Writes reports, including opinion as to the credibility of the person interviewed, for use by unit commander and for dissemination to lower, adjacent, and higher headquarters.

(7) Translates into either English or the foreign language, written material of both a technical and non-technical nature.

(8) Establishes a file of language reference materials, English and foreign language dictionaries, and glossaries of military terms.

Skill Designator MOS's

  • 2711 -- Afghan Pushtu
  • 2712 -- Arabic (Modern Standard)
  • 2713 -- Arabic (Egyptian)
  • 2714 -- Arabic (Syrian)
  • 2716 -- Amharic
  • 2717 -- Bengali
  • 2718 -- Hebrew
  • 2719 -- Hindi
  • 2721 -- Kurdish
  • 2722 -- Persian-Farsi
  • 2723 -- Somali
  • 2724 -- Swahili
  • 2726 -- Turkish
  • 2727 -- Urdu


Asian Pacific Linguists

  • 2733 -- Burmese
  • 2734 -- Cambodian
  • 2736 -- Chinese (Cantonese)
  • 2737 -- Chinese (Mandarin)
  • 2738 -- Indonesian
  • 2739 -- Japanese
  • 2741 -- Korean
  • 2742 -- Laotian
  • 2743 -- Malay
  • 2744 -- Tagalog
  • 2846 -- Thai
  • 2747 -- Vietnamese


European (West) Linguists

  • 2754 -- Dutch
  • 2756 -- Finnish
  • 2757 -- French
  • 2758 -- German
  • 2759 -- Greek
  • 2761 -- Haitian-Creole
  • 2762 -- Icelandic
  • 2763 -- Italian
  • 2764 -- Norwegian
  • 2766 -- Portuguese (Brazilian)
  • 2767 -- Portuguese (European)
  • 2768 -- Spanish
  • 2769 -- Swedish


European (East) Linguists

  • 2776 -- Albanian
  • 2777 -- Armenian
  • 2778 -- Bulgarian
  • 2779 -- Czech
  • 2781 -- Estonian
  • 2782 -- Georgian
  • 2783 -- Hungarian
  • 2784 -- Latvian
  • 2786 -- Lithuanian
  • 2787 -- Macedonian
  • 2788 -- Polish
  • 2789 -- Romanian
  • 2791 -- Russian
  • 2792 -- Serb-Croat
  • 2793 -- Slovenian
  • 2794 -- Ukrainian


Note: A Skill-Designator MOS is a "job within a job." It denotes a special skill or training that the Marine holds in addition to the general requirements of his/her Primary MOS.


This MOS does have many advantages for foreign speakers, and those who are willing to learn. Good luck on your future endeavors.

Semper Fi

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In summation...

If you have a good... head,
the Marines need cunning linguists.


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Is this MOS available to reservists?
 
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I'm sure it is with the Civil Affairs Group, and Counter Intel.

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Arabic-speaking Marine chosen as Linguist of the Year[/url]
By LCpl. Ruben D. Maestre, MCB Camp Lejeune


CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. (18 November 2003) -- In waging the War on Terror, Arab linguists are a hot commodity for America and her allies. On the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, where many civilians and combatants speak Arabic, linguists are needed more than ever.

One Woolwich, Maine, native, was recently recognized for his linguistic skills and contributions during Operations Iraqi and Enduring Freedom and is currently assigned to 2nd Radio Battalion, II Marine Expeditionary Force here.

"I never thought I would have been doing what I've done," said Sgt. Chad E. Lindsey. The Chop Point School graduate now looks back on his career as a seasoned combat veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Lindsey's awards include recognition as the Marine Corps Linguist of the Year and as runner-up Linguist of the Year for the Department of Defense. Additionally, Lindsey was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal for his "operational and academic performance" during training exercises in Egypt and anti-terrorist operations in Afghanistan by the commanding general of II Marine Expeditionary Force during a ceremony here 7 Nov.

Second Radio Battalion's mission is to harness the skills of linguists like Lindsey and other Marines in relation to the various forms of available communications. Additionally, they support "special intelligence communications" for the Marine air-ground combat team.

In Afghanistan and in missions in Egypt and Iraq, Lindsey was a "signals intelligence, electronic warfare operator" inside a specialized light armored vehicle known as a Mobile Electronic Warfare Support System. Because of Lindsey's Arabic language skills, he was continually needed for his special language skill.

"I was assigned as the primary translator for the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit commander during Exercise Bright Star in Egypt," Lindsey said of his liaison between U.S. Marine Corps and Egyptian forces conducting joint training.

Lindsey's versatility and use was also evident in Operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom.

"Being attached to the first 'on the ground' intelligence unit in Afghanistan, I was called to aid in the interrogation of Arabic-speaking detainees at the Afghan city of Kandahar," he said of his exploits there.

Practically hopping from operation to operation Lindsey had similar experiences in Iraq.

"In Iraq, Sergeant Lindsey was tasked with numerous jobs including translating and interpreting between his commanders and our enemy prisoners, to providing humanitarian relief to Iraqi civilians," said Staff Sgt. Jason K. Kendall, who has served alongside Lindsey for nearly two years as his supervisor here and in Iraq.

"Lindsey translated for our doctors giving aid to Iraqi civilians and even interpreted for a group of civilians trying to cross the battle line to conduct a proper Muslim burial," said Kendall.

"His expertise and willingness to volunteer even after little sleep or rest showed his professionalism to the continued tasks we faced in Iraq," he said.

Cool and collective, yet methodical in his approach to tasks, Lindsey also reflected upon the simpler interactions with his surroundings during his time overseas. He recollected the extreme climates he faced and the reactions of people who lived in those surroundings.

"In Afghanistan, I remember fighting off the insects, plus the goodwill of the locals," said Lindsey.

It was a sentiment he echoed of his time in Iraq and Egypt.

"In Iraq and while training in Egypt, I was truly surprised how well we were received by the local populations," he said. Lindsey's view was in contrast to the negative perceptions commonly portrayed in the regional media of Americans in that part of the world.

"In fact, the Iraqis we encountered during Operation Iraqi Freedom seemed very appreciative to us for liberating them from Saddam Hussein," he said.

In his more than four years of service, the Marine Corps has provided Lindsey the opportunity to travel to many countries while serving his country. While not ruling out continued military service, Lindsey future plans include attending college and pursuing a career in federal law enforcement.

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i got three years of german, four acctually, but i never got credit for my first one in 8th grade... do you think thats worth much to the Marines?
 
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i got three years of german, four acctually, but i never got credit for my first one in 8th grade... do you think thats worth much to the Marines?

Nope! High school grades, and college credits aren't worth squat. It's the individuals ability to understand the language, and speak it that counts.
 
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so if i do good on an equivalency test...like that?
 
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Part of the test is you listening to the speaker, and comprehending what it is he or she is talking about. That portion uses a point system. The other part of the test is having a conversation, and that utilizes a "Go" or "No Go" grading method.

You either speak and understand the language, or you don't.
 
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I went for it, and I got a 99 on the DLAB.

Retaking the test in a few months.
 
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watson... what's up with your empty member profile?
 
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Start recruiting foreigners, that should fill the gap. For example i want join the marines, but i cant-i from Lithuania, few years i participate in GC lottery, hope this year i get it, my situation know Lithuanian and Russian very well...
 
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Originally posted by BrutalForce:
It would be very nice, but bad that in india, why not open in some place in europe and all EU citizens can apply.

BF... you are a hypocrite. So you best follow what you post on here.

The discussion about recruit foreigners leads nowhere, and is a bad idea. You either are an American citizen, or Legal Resident with Green Card. So leave it at that. Re-read the Non US Citizens, Read before asking! thread over in the Recruiting Forum, and see what type of mess that discussion turned out to be.
 
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I really want to lat move into Crypto Linguist MOS, I am fluent in Russian, however I doubt I will get that TS clearance because I was born outside the US.
 
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In summation...

If you have a good... head,
the Marines need cunning linguists.


HHAHAHAHAHA
Good one...must have gone over all their heads...
 
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I really want to lat move into Crypto Linguist MOS, I am fluent in Russian, however I doubt I will get that TS clearance because I was born outside the US.

It doesn't matter if you were born outside the US; what matters is the citizenship of your immediate family members. There are plenty of military and State Department brats who were born outside the US who get clearances (many with foreign mothers or fathers). My mother was a foreign citizen until about five years ago. It took me a little longer to get the clearance, but it can be done. Russian will be a little bit harder if you still have close relatives over there, but I wouldn't let that stop me from trying.

You might be better off trying to go counter-intel vice SIGINT. The HUMINT guys like having people with different cultural backgrounds (for obvious reasons) and may be more willing to take the chance of getting the clearance approved.
 
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That's some interesting information you gave me SSgt. Did you work with HUMINT? It's a little more complicated with me, I wasn't a military brat, I was born in Russia and spent there 15 years before I moved to the US. My mom was naturalized, my father is a born US citizen, however he is not my biological father. I do have my bio father and a grandma and cousins over in Russia.
 
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Hi. I can speak and write Polish fluently. I have no problem writing whole essays in Polish or speaking with natives. They often confuse me for a native. Would this count as fluent?
 
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Hi. I can speak and write Polish fluently. I have no problem writing whole essays in Polish or speaking with natives. They often confuse me for a native. Would this count as fluent?

Now that's what I call Polish humor. Big Grin
 
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Hi. I can speak and write Polish fluently. I have no problem writing whole essays in Polish or speaking with natives. They often confuse me for a native. Would this count as fluent?

If you look at the original post, there are two options to qualify. Attending DLI and getting the requisite DLPT score upon graduation or taking the DLPT and getting the requisite score on that exam. "Fluency" then is determined by an exam, the DLPT or Defense Language Proficiency Test.
 
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Well I talked to my carrer planner today and he said that right now I can't latmove, I gotta wait 'till my last year. I asked him what about the clearance (TS takes up to a year) and he said I can start now by applying for secret at S-2. I do not understand how it works, if I get secret now, will I be able to just upgrade to TS during my last year or what? Or will there have to be the whole new investigation as if I didn't have any clearance at all?
 
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