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I have spoken to a couple recruiters and read up on these topics on the forums and still have a question.
I am interested in going to intelligence. My ASAVAB score exceeds the minimum, my physical fitness is there, and my motivation is more then you could believe. I want to learn other languages and travel, just as much as run and climb in the heat and mudd ( I do that now as a roofer in 128 degree black rubber rooves). I understand I need to be completely honest about everything going into the Marines so here's my question. I have a GED, not because I'm lazy or I screwed up,(and not that people with GED's are) but because I had family issues that I took upon myself to leave school and handle. One of my recruiters said that will not be a problem and I can get a waiver for it, I think my ASVAB score was pretty high. The problem is I do have a juvenile record for intent to distribute and served probation for 6 months. One of the recruiters I spoke to asked me to get the record from the police station and there was nothing there on me. I went back to him and told him this and he said just to leave it be and do not mention in. Does this mean I am relieved of the crime since I was only 17? I am an honest person and don't know the right way of going about this. Should I go to a different recruiter and explain this whole story? If so, is there any chance of getting into intelligence still? Just looking for some input and guidance. Thank you Marines. |
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Members get pissed that I respond (because Im not a Marine yet) but your situation sounds almost identical to how mine did so I feel I must. BTW - I ship-out in September for Boot Camp. 1. Cant comment on you getting into intelligence - depends on your ASVAB I guess. 2.I dont think the GED will be a problem because I didnt have a HS Diploma either; I had what was called a Certificate of Proficiency, suppose to be the equivalent - but anyways, it caused some headaches with my recruiter but in the end it didnt stop me from getting sworn in. 3. I told my recruiter about 2 charges of Assault&Battery with a Deadly Weapon I was prosecuted for as a juvenile and a Battery on School Grounds. I dont know why, but he couldnt find ANYTHING on them, NOTHING, like they never even happened. The problem was he explained to me, was that if I just went ahead and said I had never been arrested for anything..and something turned up later on the charges..I would most likely recieve a Dishonorable Discharge for lying..so it was really important for him(my recruiter) to find something on the charges now and go ahead and get waivers for them. Long story short he FINALLY found a record of the charges and I got them waived, so I never had to lie that I was never arrested. I hear alot of horror stories about recruiters but mine really has been on the up-and-up with me; he fought like hell for my waivers and to get the MOS I wanted - Thank You Staff Sergeant Estrada  BTW - The reason you probably cant find any record of the charge is because it happened while you were a juvenile and you mustve had the record sealed when you turned 18. The charges are still there, but its gonna take some work to uncover them. |
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If you try to go Intel you better disclose everything. That job requires a Top Secret security clearance. If you were busted for intent to distribute, they will find it on a TS investigation, I don't care what the local PD says. The catch to that is if you disclose it, and you should, it will probably disqualify you for intel.
That being said Intel is not 007 stuff either. Do you know what they actually do? Most of the guys I saw sat at a desk and analyzed intel brought to them by the Marines outside the wire. Pretty exciting stuff  Last I checked, intent to distribute was a disqualifier. That was almost 6 years ago, may have changed. GED, if the station has a slot for a GED you may get in. With what you have above not very likely. Do you have any college credits? |
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you should really go to the top of the forum and read the rules as it relates to wannabe's posting... " Im not easily impressed....so think hard about it before you try" |
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Intelligence stays in offices where they analyze raw data which primarily comes from infantry and reconnaissance units in the field. Given your background, you may want to consider going infantry first and then doing a lateral (lat) move into intel if you still want it enough to reenlist for it.
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Moderator Marine Forums "A Marine on duty has no friends." Experienced Member  |
I love the title of this thread...
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are you going to do this for every single person who comes in and asks a question? i can see that you're going to be popular in boot camp. your name is gonna be recruit know it all. watch out for the blanket parties. |
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I had experience with the question being asked
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MODERATOR: Joining the Military Forums Highly Experienced Member  |
 So you think you're s***hot, huh?"If you focus on results, you will NOT get change. If you focus on change, you WILL get results." |
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On the contrary, you have no experience with the question that was asked. they're talking apples and you're giving orange answers. no 2 situations are the same, and all you're doing is speculating, so seriously, STFU. this forum has rules regarding wannabes giving advice to other wannabes. Try and pull this s*** on another recruit when you get to basic, or on another Marine in the fleet. see what happens. you'll catch yourself a nice beating. ps-nice call on changing your profile to private. now everyone knows you're a p**** who can't handle being corrected. |
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MODERATOR, MARINE FORUMS Highly Experienced Member  |
STFU! Now..................... If you're gonna shoot, shoot! Don't Talk. |
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You can pretty much count on it being a disqualifier. Don't even try to lie about it either. Single Scope Background Investigations (SSBI) look at expunged/sealed records...and trust me, juvenile records don't just "go away". The investigator will find it. However, I don't know their exact policy for intel, I do know, however, that I was almost disqualified for doing drugs twice in my life.
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lol now that I look at the title, I should have worded it a little differently. HA! Anyway thanks for all the responses, even the inexperienced ones. I have a couple college credits, and what they call "credited hours" at a mechanic school. I dont think it's enough to put me in the category for GED and college credits though. I'm going to see if I get disqualified from Intel and if i do...so be it. I want to be a Marine reguardless, but my main goal was to pick an MOS that easily translates into a successful civilian career opportunity. Any suggestions other then electrical or auto mechanics? I don't mind desk jobs like accounting and bookkeeping. Numbers come VERY easy to me. My MOS being challenging is very important to me.
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all jobs in the Marine Corps can be challenging. if they aren't, you either aren't doing something right, or you're slacking off.
ask a cook how hard it is to prepare meals for 1000 Marines every day. ask a admin clerk how it feels to be resposible for 1000 service record books. aks a grunt how hard it is to patrol in 120 degree heat with 80+ lbs of gear on. get the picture? all jobs can be challenging no matter what field you're in. also, very few jobs in the Marine Corps "easily" translates into a "successful civilian career opportunity", and none of those are a guarantee. the more technical the field, the better the chances you have to use that skill in the civilian workforce. however, the best thing to do is to supplement that experience you gain with some kind of higher education. whether it's through a technical/vocational school or a community college/jr college/university, it all will help your marketability as a civilian. but first things first. to be hired as a Marine veteran, first you have to be a Marine. talk with a recruiter on what interests you and what you qualify for. since it's been pretty well established that intel might not me a viable option, i'd see what else interests you. good luck. |
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MODERATOR: Joining the Military Forums Highly Experienced Member |
I knew a former Army Helicopter pilot who drove junk food trucks and installed cable after twelve years in the Army. He had the college degree, leadership experience and flight time, but yet he got jobs that was totally unrelated to his flying career. My point? Like was said, whatever job you get in the military whether it translates directly to a civilian position or not is NOT GUARANTEED that you'll get that position once out. You have to do some legwork in order to nab those civvie careers. A helicopter pilot w/ leadership experience plus a college degree to boot should've opened doors for my friend. Apparently he lacked the motivation to get those great paying and rewarding civilian positions. Another thing, while it's definitely practical to think about what you want to do when you leave the service, you should be more concerned about what will make you happy when you get in. For one, you might like the service enough and stay for a bit. On the other hand, if you concentrate too much on what you want to do afterwards, you definitely WILL NOT BE HAPPY because you're thinking too much about the future instead of the here and now. You'll have a very long four years in the Corps. So one step at a time. "If you focus on results, you will NOT get change. If you focus on change, you WILL get results." |
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Senior Marine Moderator Air Wing tom.hansen8.18@gmail.com  Experienced Member |
I spent 4 years a Hydrualic Mech on the Harrier (A Model), I could not get a any hydraulic shops to look at me as my experience was at the squadron level, all we did was remove and replace. The Intermediate and Depot levels is where the repairing of components starts in both the Marine Corps and Navy. This is where you really need to get this level if you want to work in the fields you here trained for after the Marine Corps. Many of these fields may also require a A/P License as well.
Once you are in the Squadron level it takes an act of God to be able to move to the repair side of things unless you reinlist for it or get lucky and reassigned. It was not unheard of that a Hyd guy got sent to H&HMS to work building tires for 6 months to a year, most of the time they stay up at H&HMS and move into component repair. But working at the Squadron Level you got to travel and see the world......  |
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