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Right now, Marines in non-03 MOS's can apply to do a lateral move into Recon.

There are conditions.

What is available to those Marines right now mat not be avaialble 1 or 2 years down the road.

Generally, 03's and field radio operators are recruited for Recon. Others need not apply.

If you want to enlist into Recon, ralk to yuor recruiter about the UZ enlistment option.

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gergco

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DR,

I appreciate the information. The reason for my question is that I have one year until I receive my US citizenship, and I'm leaving to MCRD in 4 days. When I originally enlisted, I signed for an infantry contract. When I became injured in training and eventually dropped, I re-enlisted for a different MOS. I just wanted to have an idea if the option is available for future knowledge.

One last thing; how common is to see a lat move into infantry by a non-infantry Marine?

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One last thing; how common is to see a lat move into infantry by a non-infantry Marine?

From my perspective... 0

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crazydimes85

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What is the GT score a composite of?

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GT—General Technical—VE+AR

Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
and Sum of Word Knowledge and Paragraph Comprehension (VE)

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recruit99

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I incorrectly posted Recon questions in another thread not realizing that there is one dedicated to Recon Marines
Have some quick questions about Recon Marines:

1. Besides mission, are "Battalion" Recon and "Force" Recon Marines basically the same? Are they the same in terms of platoon size and training (with the exception of MFF which DeepRecon stated in a pervious post)

2. Are you assigned into either "Battalion" Recon or "Force" Recon based on need? or as a candidate you get to select?

3. Corspman assigned to either "Force" or "Battalion" go through the same training pipeline which is Field Medical Service School, Basic Reconnaissance Course, Basic Airborne Course, Combatant Diver Course, and 18D medical training??? or are Battalion Corpsman essentially Corpsman from active Marine infantry units??

4. (Yes/No) Scout Swimmers in a Boat raid unit in an MEU are not Recon Marines but they basically carry out a similar mission for beach raid operations.

5. How many platoons per company in a Recon battalion (not sure if this is OPSEC violation, if so then nevermind)
How many platoons in a "Force" company? (same as above OPSEC)

6. Is Basic Reconnaissance Course the same as Amphibious Recon School??

7. Battalion Recon is not part of SOCOM, but they carry out basically the same mission as "Force"

thanks

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3recondoc

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are Battalion Corpsman essentially Corpsman from active Marine infantry units??

Corpsman assigned to the Teams in a Line Company( as in not assigned to BAS which is in H&S) are or will become trained USMC Reconners.

They do everything their co-workers do.

Cannot be any other way on a small team.

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flyersusedtobegood

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Ill be reporting to SOI shortly. Im preparing myself and my body to "go recon." Should I take the recon indoc midway through SOI (it is standardly held ~1/2 through SOI right?) or should I pass on it, graduate SOI, and then go to one the weekly MARSOC indocs held each Friday?

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Should I take... or should I...

You choose.

It is not an indoc, it is screening.

The Recon screening at SOI is conducted by the Basic Recon Course personnel, which is now also based at San Onofre.

If accepted, you attend BRC. If you make it, you'll be assigned to a Recon battalion.

If you take the MARSOC screening and get accepted, you will also attend BRC. If you make it, you will be assigned to MSOC Fox in either the 1st or 2nd MSOB.

Doing well in a Recon battalion may get you assigned to MARSOC.

You could end up in the same place, however you decide to begin.

...or you may not.

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Good day to all of ya,
I am a Marine stationed in MCAS Miramar. I am a cpl in the 3531 field and I want to become a Recon Marine. I am dead serious about this and I have the PMA to go with it. I am a good Marine, and I have the heart to be part of the team. Im trying to go into Recon using the new instructions in MarAdmin 417/07. I am married with 2 kids, very supportive family. I would please like any and all information that can help me. My RELM sheet is getting approved by the XO and CO at this time. I do not want to fail, and I will not let myself fail in becoming a Recon Marine. Any help, tips, pointers will be greatly appreciated. I was told that RSE is what BRC was before, can someone explain that to me also.
Thanks & S/F,
Javier

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Any help, tips, pointers will be greatly appreciated. I was told that RSE is what BRC was before, can someone explain that to me also.

High 1st Class PFT
Strong Swimmer
Never quit

The Amphibious Reconnaissance School at Fort Story on the east coast has closed down and consolidated with the Basic Reconnaissance Course.

BRC moved it's operations from Coronado to San Onofre. The amphibious portion of BRC will still be conducted at Coronado.

As the MARADMIN states, there have been some changes made to the Amphibious Reconnaissance Course, which is the bulk of what is taught at BRC.

BRC has changed it's name to RSE. As the new name implies, excellence is the standard.

Good luck to you!

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Thanks for the info,

What is exactly taught at the schools that they will send me to, to get the 0321 mos? I would like to know what they teach and how they teach it, and the lenght.

I think I am a strong swimmer, I went from 4th class swim to 1st class swim qual in one day without breaks. I am going cwsq when they have it on base. I have all my PME done, and the recon mci done. I have never been in trouble, no neg. paper work on me. I got PRK done to me this month, im fully healthy with no bad med. record, and my Secret sec. package has been in since the beg. of last month. I have everything that the MarAdmin states.

Thanks and S/F,
Javier

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What is exactly taught at the schools that they will send me to, to get the 0321 mos?

RSE is the school you must complete to get the 0321 MOS.

As a prerequisite to RSE, you must complete the Marine Infantry Rifleman Course, as stated in the MarAdmin. MOS 0311.

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I would like to know what they teach and how they teach it, and the lenght.

You are going to learn everything taught in that MCI, 0332G Reconnaissance Marine and get some practical application. The school is about 13 weeks.

"He is best who is trained in the severest school"

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In RSE school, do they fail people or they make people quit? After I complete SOI, will I go straight to RSE or a Recon BN? Where/when will I take the Recon screening?

Thanks & S/F,
Javier

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Where/when will I take the Recon screening?

As far as I know, the school is now the screening. The Recon Battalions no longer conduct screening. So...

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After I complete SOI, will I go straight to RSE or a Recon BN?

I don't know what you will be doing between completion of the Marine Infantry Rifleman Course and the beginning of the next RSE. In the past, you would have been assigned to an RTP in a Recon Bn.. I believe that has now changed.

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In RSE school, do they fail people or they make people quit?

Yes.

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What special schools are offered to Recon Marines? Besides basic airborne, SERE and combat scuba? I personally like training, anything to better myself and my career. I also like school, I am 2 classes away from my AA degree. I going to Cpl,s course in two weeks and I'll also request motor t nco course. I like PME, I have 65 mci's done to include sgts and snco's course mci's. What courses do they have that Recon Marines usually go to?

Thanks and S/F,
Javier

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quote:
Originally posted by 11497533:
What special schools are offered to Recon Marines? Besides basic airborne, SERE and combat scuba? I personally like training, anything to better myself and my career. I also like school, I am 2 classes away from my AA degree. I going to Cpl,s course in two weeks and I'll also request motor t nco course. I like PME, I have 65 mci's done to include sgts and snco's course mci's. What courses do they have that Recon Marines usually go to?

Thanks and S/F,
Javier

Go here, thread closed.

No now thank you.

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Johnny Blaze

More on Recon

The following was added as a reply from DeepRecon to the question of the washout rates for Recon.

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It seems everybody wants to be Recon.

The first round of washouts are the ones that say they want to be but never try.

The second round are the ones that don't make the initial minimum requirements for trying out: GT score, eyesight/color-blindness, the ability to obtain a secret clearance.

Let's say you meet all the initial requirements and enlist into the Marine Corps under the UZ enlistment option - guaranteed contract Recon (tryout). Failure anywhere along the way in the pursuit of the 0321 MOS will revert the Marine to an 03xx - Infantry MOS).

So, you get through Boot Camp and you have a 1st Class PFT, the highest swim qual offered in Boot Camp and no bad marks in your record.

You proceed to SOI. You get through and maintain your 1st Class PFT - still, no bad marks.

You get sent to the Basic Recon Course - not far away, it's located very near SOI.

Here, you will wish that you took getting in shape much more seriously because, even though a score of 225 or better is 1st Class, you will need to perform at the level of a very high PFT score to get through this course.

The attrition rate at BRC is high - there are failures and quitters.

What's the percent? Look at it this way. Combined, all Reconnaissance trained Marines (Recon Bn., DRP Marines, MARSOC Marines), make up a very tiny percentage of the Marine Corps. These are very small units. Yet, the Marine Corps has rarely ever been able to get these units to full strength.

Note: The active duty Force Recon Companies have been deactivated.

Active duty Force Recon Marines are assigned to either the Deep Recon Platoons in the Recon Battalions or to 1st or 2nd MSOB, MARSOC.

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