If there are any 0231s in this forum, can you please tell me the specifics of this job? I know that Intelligence Specialists are involved with collection and dissemination of intelligence, but what is an average day of a 0231 (deployed or otherwise)? How long is the MAGTF Intelligence Specialist Entry Course? Also, on About.com it says that one of the requirements is that the Intelligence Specialist must type a minimum 25 words per minute. If that is true, why is that requirement so low? I am meeting with a recruiter on Tuesday next week, but I don't want to meet him knowing next to nothing.

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I've never been an 0231 but it encompasses many things (from what I understand) and there is no typical day. I have a female friend who switched over to that job from mine.. When I saw her right before a deployment she told me:

"I spend more time on a computer now than when I was an 06"

...However I don't know if thats typical - just search, I don't think there are too many 0231's on here.

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is 0231 the same as a linguist? because i remember qualifying for that job and my recruiter made it sound AWESOME! But then other marines told me that I would likely fail a background check halfway into the schooling and would be transfered to infantry which I do not want. If anyone knows info on if that is likely to happen, the help would be appreciated .

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is 0231 the same as a linguist? because i remember qualifying for that job and my recruiter made it sound AWESOME! But then other marines told me that I would likely fail a background check halfway into the schooling and would be transfered to infantry which I do not want. If anyone knows info on if that is likely to happen, the help would be appreciated

No it is no the same as linguist. The linguist MOSs are 26XX and are part of the SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) field.

One of the biggest myths among non-infantry types in the Marine Corps is that you will get Infantry if you: 1) go open contract, or 2) fail out of another school. It may have been that way in the past, but these days they get more volunteers than they need to fill the Infantry ranks. In my boot camp platoon we had between 10-15 open contracts - not one of them got 03. If I remember right most got cook or Motor T. I also do not remember one Marine at SOI who failed out of another school and ended up as an 03.

I always thought that the inelligence specialist was like a spy and that training could take you to a career for something like the CIA or something right? I mean, CIA(central intelligence agency)

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I always thought that the inelligence specialist was like a spy and that training could take you to a career for something like the CIA or something right? I mean, CIA(central intelligence agency)

It's exactly like the Errol Flynn depictions!

0231 Intel Specialists and 267X's Crypto Linguists are different jobs.
I'm a 2673, Korean Linguist. We take language training with 0231's, but it's a very hard program. 0231's come to language training after their initial MOS training if they qualify.
As an 02 you will most likely be attached to an Intel Battalion. As a 26 you will be attached to a Radio Battalion. 02's get deployed on a more frequent rate and have more interaction with grunts.

Your recuiter should be able to explain this, but my recuiter didn't know SH## about it. I'm the one who had to explain it to him. Your training for 267* will last about 2 yrs unless you get an easy language like Spanish/French. From what I know, 267x's require the highest clearance, not sure about 02's.

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But then other marines told me that I would likely fail a background check halfway into the schooling and would be transfered to infantry which I do not want. If anyone knows info on if that is likely to happen, the help would be appreciated .

Honestly, I've been in for over 2 yrs now and I haven't seen one 267x been reclassed to 03 Infantry. A majority go 06 Comm, some Motor T, bulk fuel specialist and if you are squared away and know how to kiss *** very well, you'll get 02 Intel. But yes, no infantry.

Question to any 267X marine: I am going to do latmove into 2676, my package is in process. What I was told, school for MOS is about 18 month ( part of it in Taxes and part in CA, if I correct). If I know the language, do I still have to go to DLI (Defense Language Institute)? And how long actual training?
I am new on this forum, sorry, if I post it in wrong place.

Most of these answers are close, but not entirely accurate. I was an 0231 for 5 years before I departed the Corps in 07. My recruiter knew jack about 02-anything and you will find that is true of all other MOSs. You must be TS/SCI eligble. That means you can't have done drugs and lied about it, had any traffic or arrest violations that aren't reported. Contrary to popular belief you can have some black marks on your record, but you have to be honest about them from the start. Almost everything in the Marine Corps is waiverable. And the key to a clearance is your ability to remain above being blackmailed. If you lie upon your enlistment about anything you will be disqualified for your clearance as soon as it is discovered. So be honest, be upfront, and fill out all the neccessary paper work if you require a waiver of any kind BEFORE you go to bootcamp.
When I went to school in 02 I knew three people who had gone open contract and had been assigned as 0231s. There is almost no chance you will be dropped from anything to grunt. The 03s don't want people who don't want to be there - it is bad for unit cohesion. If you flunk 0231 training you usually get dropped to Bulk Fuel (that is the joke anyway). You can get dropped to any support MOS.
You can't fail boot camp unless you are broken or crazy. Either way you get dropped from the Corps not the school. So don't be either.
There is no basic requirement, typing or knowledge, except clearance eligibilty to be an 0231.You do have to have a minimum GT score on your ASVAB, but if your recruiter is talking to you at all about intel then you must have it. Linguists who fail language training usually end up as 2651s, these are computer techs with clearances, although that isn't technically what they are trained to do.
You will go to 0231 Intel school at Damneck, VA (VA Beach on a map). The school is 3 months, give or take how long it takes to put a class together. I was on hold for a month. There you will learn the very basics of how to be an analyst. After school you will be sent to the fleet. When I was in school the person who finished first in class got to pick their duty station. Things change and all classes are different.
You will be sent to the ground or the wing. You can be sent to Okinawa (Japan), California, or North Carolina for your 1st duty station. You have a pretty decent chance of being sent to an Inteligence Battalion or an Air Combat Intelligence Unit. Otherwise you will go to a lower eschelon. Your primary functions at lower echelons will be security clearances, maintenance and tracking of classified material, pre-deployment threat briefs, and debriefs of pilots (in the wing). If you go to a BN or ACI you will build briefs for the General, become phenominal at research techniques, and learn all there is to know about the enemy.
You spend your days inside, usually in a windowless building or an air conditioned tent. It is your job to provide the hard working Marines in the air and on the ground with an accurate picture of what is going on. You will learn to take all the collection information from various sources and put it together to create a big picture. You will NOT be a collector. That is a highly specialized job, different MOSes. You are an analyst, you make sense of what they collect.
Your days are long and your job is essentially thankless. You are indirectly responsible for the lives of the Marines around you although it doesn't always seem that way. Promotions are quicker than other MOSes, job oppurtunites after the Corps are many. If you have trouble controlling your wait this MOS isn't for you, fatty. This MOS is iniative driven and if you can't PT without supervision your *** will get fat and you will be in a world of hurt come promotion time.
If you can't stand being inside all day and never seeing the sun, this job isn't for you. The only time you get to be outside is if you are setting up the tent on deployment.
If you think you will never see the enemy or get shot at the Marine Corps is not for you. Every Marine is a riflemen and 0231s have been killed in combat. Females in the Marine Corps have been killed in combat. No one is absolved of doing there duty as a Marine. If you absolutely never want to deploy, but still want to serve in the Corps, there are Aviation mechanic MOSes that due to the nature of their jobs cannot be deployed. But I will tell you right now most of those guys didn't know that when they signed up and would deploy in a heartbeat now. Being a Marine that doesn't deploy is like being a trumpet player without a trumpet. So man up, see the world. The Marine Corps is what you make of it. Looking back I have no regrets, but it wasn't easy for a minute.

Thanks for all the info sir! It's cleared up a lot of things. Do you know if you can get the 0231 MOS if you enlist as a non-citizen? Or do you have to do a lateral move into that MOS once you get your citizenship?

If you can score up to par on the DLPT you likely wouldn't have to go to DLI unless you are going there for an Intermediate-level course. Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo is the TX part and follows after DLI and is the "classified" part of your training. Expect about 18m - 2years from start of DLI till having the 267x MOS after completing DLI & Goodfellow

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Question to any 267X marine: I am going to do latmove into 2676, my package is in process. What I was told, school for MOS is about 18 month ( part of it in Taxes and part in CA, if I correct). If I know the language, do I still have to go to DLI (Defense Language Institute)? And how long actual training?
I am new on this forum, sorry, if I post it in wrong place.

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If you lie upon your enlistment about anything you will be disqualified for your clearance as soon as it is discovered. So be honest, be upfront, and fill out all the neccessary paper work if you require a waiver of any kind BEFORE you go to bootcamp.

Excellent post overall and a good look at intel in general (though I daresay you have a whole lot more experience at it than I do at this point ). Also, I think the statement above is a great answer for all of those "should I disclose X..." questions. No, perhaps not everyone aspires to obtain a TS/SCI, but lying can come back to bite you in many different ways.

I am looking a doing a lat move to 0231. When I joined the Marine Corps, I told my recruiter about my drug use, so I do have a waiver. I wasn't 100% honest at that time seeing how I never planned on going into intel. On my sf 86 I am putting down everything I have done. Any suggestions besides being 110% honest now?

I know in my SRB it says I have a drug waiver, but it doesn't list exactly what the waiver was isssued for. I have heard from multiple people that after a certain amount of time MEPS discards the waivers.

Any help/suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

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Originally posted by Tarzan555:
Question to any 267X marine: I am going to do latmove into 2676, my package is in process. What I was told, school for MOS is about 18 month ( part of it in Taxes and part in CA, if I correct). If I know the language, do I still have to go to DLI (Defense Language Institute)? And how long actual training?
I am new on this forum, sorry, if I post it in wrong place.

If you want to be a 2676, you have to get that specific language in your contract. If you don't, you will go in as a 267X and your language will be assigned based off your DLAB scores and the needs of the Marine Corps. From what I have seen, many Marines who are fluent in one language may be tasked to learn another because of what me be available at the time, and it's better to know more than one language right? Some Marines that go to DLI (Defense Language Institute) could also be placed in an intermediate/advanced language course if they have experience in that language. I am not entirely 100% positive on this: Most people who skip the language training at DLI because of prior language experience are natives of that language. I have never heard of anyone else skipping that training because of formal language training elsewhere.

I'm prior Navy.

My GF wants to go USMC intel.

With 0231 or the CI MOS...can she get stationed at Quantico even though it's her first enlistment?

Since CI is open to females now...is that the "best" choice? She's runs, she's ready to rock me. I realize she won't be in a HET (or would she...?) but she wants to do that kind of stuff.

This is all going down in the next 2-3 weeks so I hope you can guys can give me some insight on this. I know nothing about USMC CI/MI so I'm asking the peeps that do.

Why do I feel a Don't ask and Don't tell situation here?

Well the good thing is that this DOD does not control this web site. So why can't your GF ask this question? We ususally do not let other service members talk to our Wannabes in OUR forum. Simply put YOU IN OUR HOUSE!. Go to the navy forums and post there.....Hint Hint..