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Basic Training |
So I am thinking very intently on attempting to join the Marine Corps. But I am worried about the bias and disrimination a woman might face during Boot Camp. I know it will basically be the same in any branch, but the Marines are just so Proud
 that I worry it might be worse.Also, about flying in the Marines... I have looked around for an answer, but nobody seems to know... If I wear glasses/contacts (because my eyesight isn't great) that DQ's me from any aviation program? Thanks for your time. |
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The Marine Corps is the only branch that splits its training. You will go to bootcamp with females and be trained by Female Drill Instructors. Discrimintion will be the least of your worries. Survival will be your focus. You will be trained as a Marine, nothing more nothing less.
As to your second question, it depends on the severity of your eyesight. Many flight programs on the Helicopter side are not as stringent on eyesight as on the Fixed Wing side and while I am not sure what the rules reguarding lasic and flying are, I do know that lasic in now allowed in the Corps. |
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If you are talking about becoming a pilot, there is no difference in the vision standards for either fixed-wing or rotary wing. This is mainly because no one knows when they go to flight school which aircraft they are going to fly. Everyone starts off flying fixed-wing, then branches off. |
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The Navy and the Marine Corps use the same standards (The Marines do not have their own medical department. They use the Navy for all medical procedures and standards). Navy Pilots must pass a Class I Flying Physical. To become a pilot in the Navy or Marine Corps, an applicant's uncorrected vision can be no worse than 20/40 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. Once flight training begins, vision can deteriorate to no worse than 20/100 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. After flight training graduation, if the eyesite deteriorates worse than 20/200 (must be correctable to 20/20), the pilot will require a waiver for carrier operations. If the vision deteriorates past 20/400 (correctable to 20/20), the pilot is restricted to aircraft with dual controls (ie, aircraft with co-pilots).
For Navigators (called "NFOs" or "Navy Flight Officers"), there is no vision requirement to enter flight training. However, the Navigator's vision must be correctable to 20/20 and there are limits on refraction. Refraction must be less than or equal to plus or minus 8.00 sphere in any meridian and less than or equal to minus 3.00 cylinder. No more than 3.50 anisometropia. After flight training, to continue on flight status there is no limit on refraction for NFOs. No waivers are authorized for NFO applicants who exceed these refraction limits. Normal color vision is required for both NFOs and pilots. Normal depth perception is required for pilots and pilot applicants. The Navy allows laser eye survery, both for current pilots and NFOs, and for pilot/NFO applicants, if they apply for, and are accepted to participate in the Navy's on-going study about laser eye surgery for aviators. |
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Just for clarification:
NFOs in the Marine Corps are not Navigators - we had enlisted Navigators in the C-130s but with the new J model they are no longer making any more. NFOs in the Marine Corps are either Weapons/Sensor Officers (WSOs) in the F-18D squadrons, or Electronic Counter-Measures Officers (ECMOs) in the EA-6B Prowlers. Right now you can have PRK surgery and still be eligible to fly, and I believe they have approved LASEK (which if I'm not mistaken is a derivative of PRK) but you can't fly with LASIK (even though the Army and Air Force have approved it). |
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Okay so basically, since my eyesight sucks... if i got Lasek eye surgery, I can fly in the Air Force?
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Go ask an Air Force recruiter... |
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as long as you have big feet you will get promoted fast.......
Don't do that again! We have under aged folks in here. This message has been edited. Last edited by: GyJDIrwin, |
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All seeing-All Knowing |
Those type of coments are not required on this forum.... Sorry Dave about the edit. JD This message has been edited. Last edited by: GyJDIrwin, " Im not easily impressed....so think hard about it before you try" |
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+1 Please delete this post, Gulf_Marine. Mel, Sorry about having to edit your post also. JD This message has been edited. Last edited by: GyJDIrwin, |
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WM Moderator Marine Forums  |
You gave yourself a short rope to hang yourself with. A very short rope.
Now, do as the Lady asks and delete your offending post. AND while you are at it, apologize to all the Ladies on this sit for your stupid comment. Sgt Shaw OUT! I'll check back later to see if you have complied. |
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MODERATOR, MARINE FORUMS I'm innocent! I'm the John Boy.......  |
Oh he complied! Semper Fi Johnny Blaze If you're gonna shoot, shoot! Don't Talk. |
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WM Moderator Marine Forums |
GULF MARINE:
I and Hulinmr took personal offense to your comment earlier and request that you NEVER PULL THAT SH*T again!  Don't make me pull the plug on your life support!  SgtShaw OUT! |
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I've just gotta go with it as is... |
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The Lady Marines need more troops on this site...I know BMG is close, but his dress is to small and his face has to much hair....
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Naw, Shaw handled it pretty cool although I would't want to tick her off and get my butt kicked behind the hootch. Peace Devil, no problems here and I ain't mad at ya.
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That's actually incorrect. -Airforce does not have a requirement for prior service to go through bootcamp -Army requires any prior Navy, Airforce, or Coast Guard member to attend a 4 week bootcamp, however no requirements for prior Marine -Navy requires any Airforce member to attend their full training, however any Marine, Army, or Coast Guard member will only attend a 2 week program. -Coast Guard requires all prior service members to attend a 4 week training program called PTSP, this program is not always active, so there may be times when someone enlists and will attend the full 8 week course. This message has been edited. Last edited by: DrifterCoastie, |
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WM Moderator Marine Forums |
I was not including the CG in this comment. They have different requirements. I think you actually KNOW what I was saying. |
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SgtShaw,
Yes you are correct, I should have pointed that out in my first reply. For the prior service of other branches, they are just familiarzation courses that teach you the basics of uniforms, customs and courtesies, and regs for it's own branch. So they are not technically "bootcamp", unlike Marine bootcamp where any prior service member wanting to be a Marine has to attend the full bottcamp as would any first enlistees would. Thanks. |
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