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I have read in other forums that people have wanted to become a Scout Sniper. However I dont think I seen how Marines exactly become a Scout Sniper. What schools do you have to go to, to become a Scout Sniper? Through basic training, qualify as an expert rifleman(how do you become an expert rifleman?) Do you have to go through recon? I know you have to go through infantry school right?(Correct me if i'm wrong) I think i'm gonna start running more and working out than normal. I wanna make all of my training as easy as possible. Although I do love challenges! I know becoming a Scout Sniper is gonna be a challenge, and i'm up for that challenge! I've wanted to join the Marines and become a Sniper for years now. Never changed my decision and will not. I wanna serve for my country. I wanna become a Scout Sniper more than anything. I will work to achieve that goal. Which is why i'm hoping someone will have tips for me. I'm just a little confused on how to accomplish that goal. It will be hard and i'm up for that. I work towards my goals to achieve them. I hope to do that someday. I know people have read forums like these a hundred times, about coming a Scout Sniper and stuff. I'm sorry if you people get frustrated over it or anything, but i'm just a confused person looking for answers. Any info will help! Smile
 
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God damn bro, theres like 500,000,000 scout sniper recon threads on this site, use the search button or look at the other threads on this page, theres at least 5 or 6 of them.

Also what is with everyone wanting to be a sniper lol. I think Jarhead did it, everyone wants to be Jake Jillanhall, I don't think they want to be Marines...

I thought it would be "so like, totally like, kool to be a scout sniper" then I really thought about it, and figured it's to personal. I'd rather kick *** as an assaultman Smile

Let me know how much fun you have when your laying in the same spot for a couple days not eating, sleeping, or moving, shitting and pissing in your pants while you aim down the scope the entire time just to get that one kill.
 
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"Easiest" way is join a grunt unit and take the STA indoc. Much harder than it sounds. Buddy of mine tried out for it a few months ago and it went something like this (obviously vary by unit etc, but you'll get the general gist of it..)

Started with a PFT, then he got PT'd more, then they did a run around the local base area and finished at a classroom-type building. Went in and had to pass a land-nav/infantry knowledge test with no rest while the cadre goes around screaming at you, banging fists on desks, extremely loud music and porno playing in the background. After that, they ran back outside and started a hump with full gear/weapon (don't remember length) which they basically ran the whole way, every now and then they would stop and have to play games with digging stuff out of the pack, then stuff it back in and start moving again. Once they got to the destination, did a land nav to an LZ. Sat there all night, no sleep, played games and got PT'd. Did another land nav. Did another hump except with each person carrying railroad ties. At their destination they had to dig fighting holes, except the ground there was impossible and it was already extremely cold/raining. At this point he and his partner DOR'd.

Just trying to warn you...everybody who talks about wanting to be recon/sniper always tends to brush off the indocs as something minor on the way to all the sexy training and schools. The indocs are there for a reason, namely to weed out 90%+ of people who apply. But if you think you can handle it, knock yourself out.
 
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More or less well said DeepRecon has stated many times from all the posts I have read about how difficult it is and how few there really are when you take the numbers into account.

Everyone on the outside watches movies hear stories and them always glorify a Sniper or a Recon Marine but to be honest it is not no cakewalk nor a party or people waiting to shake your hand because you said I wanna be.

You have to put out or move along they definantly do not show mercy to anyone I assure you because many have failed and thats why they are who they are.

Them are the schools that will make you or break you and just because many of you wanna be does not mean you will be.

What I find ironic about alotta the people that are asking about it are the same people worried about bootcamp, well all you people that are home telling everyone thats what your gonna do thats who your gonna be I wish you luck you better just worry about being a Marine first and foremost.

And if you think you really have what it takes don't come on these boards with all the doubtful lame arsee crap I read like I really want it but not sure if I am in shape enough etc.

You will have lost the battle before it has began.

You are either ready or your not plain and simple.

Quitters need not apply!
 
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Yea, I dont know really why Scout Sniper is so big among people. I guess I thought about it. I think i'd like just something more like a Rifleman(0311). I gotta ask though, what exactly is a grunt? I've heard it a lot before. I think I looked it up and I just dont see it as much as other mos or anything. Can anyone fill me in please?
 
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Yea, I dont know really why Scout Sniper is so big among people. I guess I thought about it. I think i'd like just something more like a Rifleman(0311). I gotta ask though, what exactly is a grunt? I've heard it a lot before. I think I looked it up and I just dont see it as much as other mos or anything. Can anyone fill me in please?


Grunt is a nickname for the Infantry in the Marine Corps.
Other mos' will occasinally try and lay claim to it, but it is the Infantry.

As for why someone would want to go sniper, well, probably for the same reasons that anybody that joins wants to do any job they choose. It's a matter of personal interests. That is what they want to do for whatever reason they feel the need to do it.
 
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Doesn't anyone want to become a cook?
 
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on almost 7 years of recruiting, I put in 2 that actually wanted that program.
They do get som epretty high end training these days.
 
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Sucks for them when they get attached to some grunt unit that sets up shop in the middle of nowhere, though.

Every news story I read about them usually goes something like "Cpl So & So regularly works 20 hour days preparing chow for the Marines of --".

Either that or entering contests to have a master guns taste test your mac and cheese.
 
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Why the hell would you want to be a cook in the Marines? I can slightly wrap my brain around a missile tech or some computer skill....but a COOK? Seriously? WTF...

Go to a Denny's fill out a job app and start working the deep fryer for more money and better hours. By the time you end your first year there, you should also be fluent in Spanish.
 
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I was told (by a cook) that after you get some rank, it's cake...and nobody messes with the cooks...
guys on mess duty...that's different..
 
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Cooks are actually trained at a culinary school.
Most of it is geared towards cooking for large groups, but there is a lot of dietary classes.
They cover baking , etc.
Some units were doing cross training with hotel staff for some high end food prep and things like that.
For people that ctually enjoy cooking, it's not a bad route.
It doesn't have near as many openings as before
since most of the chow halls use civilians now.
 
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Cooks are actually trained at a culinary school.
Most of it is geared towards cooking for large groups, but there is a lot of dietary classes.
They cover baking , etc.
Some units were doing cross training with hotel staff for some high end food prep and things like that.
For people that ctually enjoy cooking, it's not a bad route.
It doesn't have near as many openings as before
since most of the chow halls use civilians now.


I still think there will come a time when we regret the policy of using civilians in the mess halls.
I'd sooner eat chow prepared by other Marines than cooked by any Joe, Juan or Hamid...
 
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I still think there will come a time when we regret the policy of using civilians in the mess halls.
I'd sooner eat chow prepared by other Marines than cooked by any Joe, Juan or Hamid...


It has a lot to do with allocation of resources.
The size of the Corps is limited by Congress, DOD, CMC.
If you can only have 200,000 Marines but need to fulfill all the missions, what you do is take jobs that were done by Marines and fill them with civilians, then use those slots to fill other billets that are mission critical and cannot be done by civilians.
 
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Security takes a back seat to allocation of resources and money...as usual
 
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Security takes a back seat to allocation of resources and money...as usual


It's more likemanpower rquired to accomplish our missions takes priority over who is serving slop on the line
DOD civilians in the chow hall don't have access to any sensitive materials.
Access to any base isn't that hard to get, and at least with dod civilians we have some record of them.
 
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In STA we lived w/ the cooks in open squad bays the theroy b/c we both kept unusual hours, which we did. All I can say was they worked the worst hours I've ever seen, but they did get a lot of time off.

Noone messed w/ our cooks they were all gym rats who were on a steady diet of Deca and D-Bol..........with a little Anavar on the side.....
 
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Doesn't anyone want to become a cook?


I do!

Private Emerilagrazi Jr. reporting for dutty sir!
 
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Security takes a back seat to allocation of resources and money...as usual


It's more likemanpower rquired to accomplish our missions takes priority over who is serving slop on the line
DOD civilians in the chow hall don't have access to any sensitive materials.
Access to any base isn't that hard to get, and at least with dod civilians we have some record of them.


All it takes is one KERRRRBBOOOOMMMMM in a crowded mess hall...
 
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