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Currently I am a PFC in the Army and the experience has not been what I thought it would be. The lack of organization and disrespect fellow soldiers show each other is unbearable.

There is a clear difference between an Army trained NCO and a Marine NCO who joined the Army later on.

My question is, what will the road be like for someone coming from the Army to the Marines? I am aware I will have to attend basic again but will my MI mos transfer over?
 
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First of all what is your MOS? Second how much time do you have left on your contract. Third you will be back down as a PFC (E-2) and have you attend Recruit Training. But before that you have to take the ASVAB and do a MEPS physical over again. Then you will enlist for a general field in the Marine Corps. Don't worry the fields are group in similar MOS's.

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Originally posted by 96BSF:
Currently I am a PFC in the Army and the experience has not been what I thought it would be. The lack of organization and disrespect fellow soldiers show each other is unbearable.

There is a clear difference between an Army trained NCO and a Marine NCO who joined the Army later on.

My question is, what will the road be like for someone coming from the Army to the Marines? I am aware I will have to attend basic again but will my MI mos transfer over?
 
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most MOS's carry over. If the marine Corps has a slot for you in that MOS you can take it.

You actually will not have to take the ASVAB again. Your scores now remain in a database for a very long time.
I have been in and out then back in again and have used the same asvab score since 1990.
You will have to process through MEPS again, but the recruiter will give you the necessary briefs.
Prior service gets head of line privileges at many MEPS.
Unless you are a reservist or are on a 2 year contract , you have a long way to go before any of this takes place.
 
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I re-read your original post and saw the MI this time.
If by that, you are talking about Military Intel, then yes we do have that.
I think all branches use the same school for that as well.
If you are a linguist, then I would say that yes absolutely it would carry over.
 
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I re-read your original post and saw the MI this time.
If by that, you are talking about Military Intel, then yes we do have that.
I think all branches use the same school for that as well.
If you are a linguist, then I would say that yes absolutely it would carry over.


I am a 35F, All source intel anaylst. I am not a linguist by mos but I do have a language.

Knowing I will have to do basic again, is it just another mind ****? I got a 279 on my last apft (73 pushups, 72 sit ups, 13:48 2 mile )
 
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Knowing I will have to do basic again, is it just another mind ****? I got a 279 on my last apft (73 push ups, 72 sit ups, 13:48 2 mile )
I was prior service myself and yes, you WILL have to go through BOOT Camp\Recruit Training and put up with all the mind games again...for 12-13 weeks I believe. I don't know if you will have to do BMT though.

The Marine Corps PFT is drastically changing to include new physical endurance tests (Check out the other threads about it) but, the basic PFT is done with pull-ups for the men; dead hang and 20 is the max for 100 pts. There are modified sit-ups/crunches that are timed (2:00 mins) and the run is THREE miles...for the men, under 18 mins and under gets you 100 pts.

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The Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test includes following events in the order listed:

1. Dead-Hang Pullups. At 5 point each, these are worth gold. Do 20 for a miximum of 100 points.

2. Marine Corps Modified Situps. These are very similar to crunches. These are worth 1 point a piece. You have 2 minutes to complete 100 situps for a maximum of 100 points.

3. 3-Mile Run. This run is to be completed in 18 minutes for a maximum 100 points. Subtract 1 point for every 10 seconds beyond 18 minutes.


"The Modern Patriotism, the True Patriotism, the only Rational Patriotism is Loyalty to the Nation all of the time, Loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."~Mark Twain
 
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Knowing I will have to do basic again, is it just another mind ****? I got a 279 on my last apft (73 push ups, 72 sit ups, 13:48 2 mile )
I was prior service myself and yes, you WILL have to go through BOOT Camp\Recruit Training and put up with all the mind games again...for 12-13 weeks I believe. I don't know if you will have to do BMT though.

The Marine Corps PFT is drastically changing to include new physical endurance tests (Check out the other threads about it) but, the basic PFT is done with pull-ups for the men; dead hang and 20 is the max for 100 pts. There are modified sit-ups/crunches that are timed (2:00 mins) and the run is THREE miles...for the men, under 18 mins and under gets you 100 pts.

Originally posted by: DeepRecon
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The Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test includes following events in the order listed:

1. Dead-Hang Pullups. At 5 point each, these are worth gold. Do 20 for a miximum of 100 points.

2. Marine Corps Modified Situps. These are very similar to crunches. These are worth 1 point a piece. You have 2 minutes to complete 100 situps for a maximum of 100 points.

3. 3-Mile Run. This run is to be completed in 18 minutes for a maximum 100 points. Subtract 1 point for every 10 seconds beyond 18 minutes.


Just read the thread on the Combat Pt test. Looks like the suck. What is BMT?
 
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My mistake, it's called MCT (Marine Combat Training) course NOT BMT; showing my age there

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All Marines are authorized 10 days of leave, immediately following graduation from boot camp. You'll need the rest, however because boot camp is just the start. You're training is not finished. Following your leave, you'll go on to further your training at the School of Infantry (East) which is located at Camp Geiger, MCB Camp Lejeune, North Carolina (for those who attended basic at Parris Island), or the School of Infantry (West), at Camp Pendleton, CA, for those who attended basic training at San Diego.

Marines who are designated as infantry Marines are assigned to Infantry Training Battalion at the school of infantry for infantry-specialized training. All Marines, entering the Military Occupation Specialties (MOS) of 0311 Rifleman, 0331 Machinegunner, 0341 Mortarman, 0351 Assaultman, or 0352 Anti-Tank Guided Missleman, attend this 51 day course. The course is broken down into two phases, starting with a 14-day common skills course, which must be completed by all infantry Marines regardless of specific MOS. Upon completion of the common skills portion, all Marines will then continue to train in their particular infantry MOS for an additional 26 days in the specific technical and live fire qualification skills required of their particular MOS prior to graduation. After graduating from there, these Marines will be assigned to their first permanent duty station.

All other Marines (male and female) are assigned to the School of Infantry to attend the Marine Combat Training (MCT) course. MCT consists of 22 days of battle skills training which enables Marines, regardless of MOS, to operate in a combat environment. Following MCT, Marines attend their MOS schools to learn the trade they are expected to perform for the Marine Corps. The length of MOS training varies, depending on the job. Following MOS training, Marines are assigned to their first permament duty station.


"The Modern Patriotism, the True Patriotism, the only Rational Patriotism is Loyalty to the Nation all of the time, Loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."~Mark Twain
 
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Alright. I think I remember my team leader speaking to me about this. He is a marine who joined the army later. Best NCO I have had to date. Told me it was 22 days spent in the field?
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My mistake, it's called MCT (Marine Combat Training) course NOT BMT; showing my age there

Info after Graduation
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All Marines are authorized 10 days of leave, immediately following graduation from boot camp. You'll need the rest, however because boot camp is just the start. You're training is not finished. Following your leave, you'll go on to further your training at the School of Infantry (East) which is located at Camp Geiger, MCB Camp Lejeune, North Carolina (for those who attended basic at Parris Island), or the School of Infantry (West), at Camp Pendleton, CA, for those who attended basic training at San Diego.

Marines who are designated as infantry Marines are assigned to Infantry Training Battalion at the school of infantry for infantry-specialized training. All Marines, entering the Military Occupation Specialties (MOS) of 0311 Rifleman, 0331 Machinegunner, 0341 Mortarman, 0351 Assaultman, or 0352 Anti-Tank Guided Missleman, attend this 51 day course. The course is broken down into two phases, starting with a 14-day common skills course, which must be completed by all infantry Marines regardless of specific MOS. Upon completion of the common skills portion, all Marines will then continue to train in their particular infantry MOS for an additional 26 days in the specific technical and live fire qualification skills required of their particular MOS prior to graduation. After graduating from there, these Marines will be assigned to their first permanent duty station.

All other Marines (male and female) are assigned to the School of Infantry to attend the Marine Combat Training (MCT) course. MCT consists of 22 days of battle skills training which enables Marines, regardless of MOS, to operate in a combat environment. Following MCT, Marines attend their MOS schools to learn the trade they are expected to perform for the Marine Corps. The length of MOS training varies, depending on the job. Following MOS training, Marines are assigned to their first permament duty station.
 
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17 days of MCT for the MOS you have. It's weapons training, land nav, hikes, and getting deeper into being a killer.
 
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Originally posted by 96BSF:
Currently I am a PFC in the Army and the experience has not been what I thought it would be. The lack of organization and disrespect fellow soldiers show each other is unbearable.
Now that your questions have been answered, all I have to add is, all you can do between now and your ETS is be the best soldier you can be.

All you can do is try to contribute to the Army, your unit, and make yourself look good (all in that order!).

An Army General once said, "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Yeah, things may not be hunk-doory in your unit, but there's always room and opportunity to try to make a difference and/or make some meaning of your situation.

I wish you the best!
 
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96B are you even at your unit yet? According to your post on 1 Dec you were in AIT...
 
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.....and getting deeper into being a killer.


That's enough BS. Thanks.
 
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Training you to be a killer at MCT = Roll Eyes
 
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Man, lotsa pogue-hatin' around here.
 
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17 days of MCT for the MOS you have. It's weapons training, land nav, hikes, and getting deeper into being a killer.


What's a hike? That's something you do with your girlfriend to get some forest poontang right?

I know you meant a hump.
 
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MCT is going to be extended to a month now. so that is 13 weeks plus 4 more weeks for a total of 17 weeks for us pogues!! Wink

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17 days of MCT for the MOS you have. It's weapons training, land nav, hikes, and getting deeper into being a killer.
 
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He will have to take the ASVAB again because he will be considered a new accession for the Marine Corps. The Marines only keeps the ASVAB scores for prior service Marines. And being prior service has no bearing on getting front of the line priviledges. He will have to qualify for the intel job in the Marine Corps and get another background check. If he qualifies, he will get a slot in the general field of intel. This information is coming from current recruiter on recruiting duty..me!
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Originally posted by SSgtRSP:
most MOS's carry over. If the marine Corps has a slot for you in that MOS you can take it.

You actually will not have to take the ASVAB again. Your scores now remain in a database for a very long time.
I have been in and out then back in again and have used the same asvab score since 1990.
You will have to process through MEPS again, but the recruiter will give you the necessary briefs.
Prior service gets head of line privileges at many MEPS.
Unless you are a reservist or are on a 2 year contract , you have a long way to go before any of this takes place.
 
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96BSF,
If you are in long enough, you will see there are NCO's, soldiers etc. that are good and those who CHOOSE to be pathetic, it's a personal decision. The Corps makes it quite difficult to be a s***bird. I spent quite a bit of thime in the corps, and believe me, there are those who should not be there. One of the most valuable things I learned in the Corps was that if a Marine needed to be set straight, it was EVERY Marine's responsibilty around them to do so, and we did. (with tact if needed) Hopefully for me, doing so in the army now will not be frowned upon.
Thanks for your service.
 
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He will have to take the ASVAB again because he will be considered a new accession for the Marine Corps. The Marines only keeps the ASVAB scores for prior service Marines. And being prior service has no bearing on getting front of the line priviledges. He will have to qualify for the intel job in the Marine Corps and get another background check. If he qualifies, he will get a slot in the general field of intel. This information is coming from current recruiter on recruiting duty..me!
Wink

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Originally posted by SSgtRSP:
most MOS's carry over. If the marine Corps has a slot for you in that MOS you can take it.

You actually will not have to take the ASVAB again. Your scores now remain in a database for a very long time.
I have been in and out then back in again and have used the same asvab score since 1990.
You will have to process through MEPS again, but the recruiter will give you the necessary briefs.
Prior service gets head of line privileges at many MEPS.
Unless you are a reservist or are on a 2 year contract , you have a long way to go before any of this takes place.


They just love to keep making it harder. We used to be able to pull those scores through MEPS no matter what branch.
The head of line was something they did as a courtesy, so they weren't waiting around with too many newbies or wannabes. It didn't apply to contracting, just the processing part.
All MEPS run a little different though.
 
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