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My recruiter is so unorganized and never keeps his word. It started from day 1. Got back from MEP's and I asked him if I could choose my job that night. He said it was to late so I said ok. He told me he would pick up saturday and we would pick it. He never showed so I gave him a call, he said we would do it monday around 4. I said ok. He never showed so I called him monday and he said we would do it tuesday. I was getting agitated but I said ok. He never showed tuesday so I called him and he said we would do it weds. Anyways this process repeated until thursday. We always make appointments and he never shows. This has happened several times on several different occassions about numberous things. Yesterday I called him and asked him if he could give me a printout of my scores so I could change my job. He said yes and that he would bring to school to me today, he didn't. I called him earlier and he said he would drop it off on his way home today around 6 or 7. Guess what, he didnt. I ship in a month and am trying to get things squared away. What can I do, this is getting ridicoulous.
 
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If he keeps blowing you off go to him instead of waiting for him to come to you. OR go to a different recruiter. Nobodys going to solve your problems but YOU.
 
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I have gone to him, guess what, he is never there. I say are you going to be at the office and he will tell me yes. When I get there, he is not there. This happened friday. Went to get a printout of my scores, he was not there even though he told me he was. I was driving there when I was talking to him. I told him I would be there in like 3 mins. I got there, he was not. I called him and he said he was at another appointment. I already tried the different recruiter thing and they just told me to talk to the one I already have.

PS: Stay safe AHill
 
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Have you talked to him about it? A Marine has a responsibility to be accountable and honor his commitments. You should tactfully and respectfully explain your needs, the difficutly of the situation, and remind him of his obligation to be accountable and honor his commitments. That Sgt is responsible for making sure that your Marine Corps needs are met. If he isn't, he simply isn't doing his job. The job does not stop just because you already signed the contract.

If that doesn't work, and you still have unmet Marine Corps needs, tactfully and respectfully talk to his SNCOIC. Be factual and to the point. Tell the SNCOIC exactly what you need, and the reasons (date/time) those needs have not been met. Don't try to get anyone in trouble or focus on the Sgt, focus on the things you need, and accomplishing those goals.

Please remember to be extremely tactful. Marines don't dime each other out, but they get the mission accomplished, even if that means utilizing the chain of command.

Hope this helps.
 
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With all due respect to anywhere's advice, sounds like you've pretty much played the game the right way and you're getting down to the wire on this with no positive resolution. I'd camp on your recruiter's door step and force the issue by telling him you're running out of time and reminding him of his many missed appointments.

If you still don't resolve these issues, take it to his boss because thats what the chain of command is for. Get back to us and let us know how this works out for you because phone calls can be made on your behalf if it comes down to it.

Never operate from fear because if you won't take action now, you won't take action in boot camp and worse, you won't take action in the fleet where good Marines get hurt because others don't step up.
 
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If you're going to camp out, try early morning hours 0700-0800. If he still has a shred of accountablility in him he should be coming in during that time frame. It's pretty much a Marine Corps wide thing, with the exception of night crew, swing shift, and morning pt.
 
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F-yeah! I posted something worthy of a temporary position at the top of the forum!
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Tell his SNCOIC that you're fed up and joining the Army.
 
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Good call anywhere. I'd follow that advice and be there early to meet him when he shows up. If nothing else, your actions will speak very highly of your sense of urgency and motivation.

As a side note: you may want to ask if your Recruiter is all right. If he drew the duty right out if Iraq it will speak volumes about his actions. Remember that Marines are humans first so he may be dealing with some very tough personal issues which have nothing to do with you or anyone else. You just never know Little Brother.
 
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The situation as you discribe it is way past the "be nice" stage. There are times that you have to take the "bull by the horns" and in my opinion this the time.

Sit down and write him a letter with dates times, places, what your concerns were, and what he told you each time that you spoke to him and what his replies were.

Mail the letter to him, No threats, no b.s., just the facts as you communicated to this Forum.

Communicate to him that if he can not do anything,for whatever reason, to get you in contact with some one that can do the job.

If for some reason you do not get a reply from him within a week then use the chain of command. Semper Fidelis. Blackcoat.
 
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Tell his SNCOIC that you're fed up and joining the Army.


You seem to be quite motivated and driven towards enlisting. This is proably why your recruiter is neglecting you. He sees you as a sure thing and would rather direct his energies towards other poolees who are on the line.

Your recruiter has clearly been ignoring you enough that your own interests are at risk. You need to put your foot down and take a stand. In my opinion the best way to do this is to give him the cold shoulder for a week untill he calls you asking whats going on, tell him you might be having second thoughts and have been considering other options. All of a sudden your no longer in his backpocket and require a little attention. This is when you get what you need done.

This may seem underhanded to you but you've already tryed being civil and it hasn't work. In the Marine Corps "Nice guys" who let people walk all over them get taken advantage of. The sooner you learn this the better.
 
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Ignorance... what's the deal with your blank profile?
 
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Ignorance... what's the deal with your blank profile?


Agreed. While your advice is close to being Spot On..... Who the hell are you? We tend to police our own around these parts. Wink

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Sorry
I added a few more things to my profile, though I would prefer to keep most of my information private. I'm more than happy to answer any questions via pm though.
 
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Well, they are pi$$ed at me now. They told me the reserve slots in my town were filled up. So I decided to call another recruiting station in a near by town. I was not aware of the fact that both of there slots were under the same place. i thought it just depended on the reserve center. So I called them and they said they didnt have any so i said ok. That recruiter calls mine and all of a sudden at 9:30 at night my recruiter calls all pissed off(this was the same night he was suppossed to drop off the scores). He said our station commander could get in trouble. Now I knew that other branches could get in trouble for talking to me, but I figured there both USMC, so how could it hurt. How could he get in trouble? Then the recruiter tells me that the world does not revolve around me and a bunch of crap. He said he and the station commander would come to my school and talk to me the next day. Sure enough they didn't, which is ashame. I wanted to tell him the reason I bug him so much is because he makes appointments then blows me off and leaves me hanging every time.I call him alot wondering where he is and he answers pissed off because I bug him. Anyways do you think he could get me a reserve spot if I threatened to join another branch? I have been in the Marine Corps JROTC for 4 years. My Major who I highly respect (44 years in the COrps, Vietnam vet) said his loyalty is to the Corps but he also has a loyalty to me with me being his cadet. He said to tell them I am going to join the Army to and then a reserve spot would "magically" open up.

PS: My recruiter is a cook and to my knowledge has not been deployed.

Thanks Guys I really Appreciate you help and concern

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Well, they are pi$$ed at me now. They told me the reserve slots in my town were filled up. So I decided to call another recruiting station in a near by town. I was not aware of the fact that both of there slots were under the same place. i thought it just depended on the reserve center. So I called them and they said they didnt have any so i said ok. That recruiter calls mine and all of a sudden at 9:30 at night my recruiter calls all pissed off(this was the same night he was suppossed to drop off the scores). He said our station commander could get in trouble. Now I knew that other branches could get in trouble for talking to me, but I figured there both USMC, so how could it hurt. How could he get in trouble? Then the recruiter tells me that the world does not revolve around me and a bunch of crap. He said he and the station commander would come to my school and talk to me the next day. Sure enough they didn't, which is ashame. I wanted to tell him the reason I bug him so much is because he makes appointments then blows me off and leaves me hanging every time.I call him alot wondering where he is and he answers pissed off because I bug him. Anyways do you think he could get me a reserve spot if I threatened to join another branch? I have been in the Marine Corps JROTC for 4 years. My Major who I highly respect (44 years in the COrps, Vietnam vet) said his loyalty is to the Corps but he also has a loyalty to me with me being his cadet. He said to tell them I am going to join the Army to and then a reserve spot would "magically" open up.

PS: My recruiter is a cook and to my knowledge has not been deployed.

Thanks Guys I really Appreciate you help and concern


Sounds like your recruiter is a bit overwhelmed. He's human, it happens. Not saying it makes it right, just that it happens.

Sign only what you are willing to commit to. Keep up with quest to get what you want.

On a side note. The fact that he is a cook and has not deployed does not factor into the situation. Most any Marine can be trained to do a specific job. How well he/she succeeds is dependant on that person.

Many Marines have not deployed. That doesn't necessarily make them bad Marines, just makes them Marines that have not deployed.
 
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My Major who I highly respect (44 years in the COrps, Vietnam vet) said his loyalty is to the Corps but he also has a loyalty to me with me being his cadet.


Bullzhit! Either that, or that is a huge type-O.

44 year Major? Invite him here, so we may all meet. Wink

44 years????? That means he would have been a Lt right about the 30 year mark. No! Wouldn't happen.

29p, and Blackcoat, wanna jump on this one? I tend to stay within my SNCO arena. Big Grin

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My Major who I highly respect (44 years in the COrps, Vietnam vet) said his loyalty is to the Corps but he also has a loyalty to me with me being his cadet.




29p, and Blackcoat, wanna jump on this one? I tend to stay within my SNCO arena. Big Grin



JD,

My opinion...What I think he is trying to say is that the major has been connected to the Corps for 44 years. When i hear something like this I think about those Marines who served their country and then continued to work in some way connected to the Corps.

44 years active duty though? I'm raising the doubtful flag on that. I'd have to do some research but I think there is something (possibly in Title X) that would prevent 40+ years of service.
 
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My Major who I highly respect (44 years in the COrps, Vietnam vet) said his loyalty is to the Corps but he also has a loyalty to me with me being his cadet.



29p, and Blackcoat, wanna jump on this one? I tend to stay within my SNCO arena. Big Grin



JD,

My opinion...What I think he is trying to say is that the major has been connected to the Corps for 44 years. When i hear something like this I think about those Marines who served their country and then continued to work in some way connected to the Corps.

44 years active duty though? I'm raising the doubtful flag on that. I'd have to do some research but I think there is something (possibly in Title X) that would prevent 40+ years of service.


Agree. I know a few Generals over the 30 year mark, but I think there is a rule that says not over 60 years of age.


Semper Fi

John


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Hey guys, I am highly considering getting out and joining the Army Reserves because I can't get a reserve spot. Does this make me a coward if I get out? Will make me look bad? I mean I will still be serving my country. I understand I made a commitment, but I made the commitment under the promise of getting reserves. I just wanted to get your guys opinion on this, since you guys have helped me out so much. I appreciate any comments.

PS: I know you guys are USMC so there will be some biased opinions, but could you please give me some unbiased opinions as well, as if I were trying to get out of the Army and into the Marines.

Thanks
 
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My Major who I highly respect (44 years in the COrps, Vietnam vet) said his loyalty is to the Corps but he also has a loyalty to me with me being his cadet.


29p, and Blackcoat, wanna jump on this one? I tend to stay within my SNCO arena. Big Grin



JD,

My opinion...What I think he is trying to say is that the major has been connected to the Corps for 44 years. When i hear something like this I think about those Marines who served their country and then continued to work in some way connected to the Corps.

44 years active duty though? I'm raising the doubtful flag on that. I'd have to do some research but I think there is something (possibly in Title X) that would prevent 40+ years of service.


Agree. I know a few Generals over the 30 year mark, but I think there is a rule that says not over 60 years of age.


Semper Fi

John


JROTC instructors are retired, but they still wear the uniform. They are paid by both the service and the school system. OK, lets see, prior enlisted, attends MECEP or another commissioning program, does his full time, then retires and continues to work teaching the JROTC thing. 44 years in the uniform is possible.

Theres a Major at RS Columbia SC who was at Ft. Sill with me, he is at 23+ years of service right now. Just a thought.
 
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