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This would describe my marriage. I am a devotee of Freya and DH is a lapse Catholic/Christian.
He has a rudimentary understanding of my beliefs and I of his. Recently word got out amongst some of the guys in his Platoon that I am a Pagan. He caught a couple of people questioning his right to call himself a Christian, by having a wife who is not.

We both agree on the importance of being a good person. Spiritually we just walk different paths.

Ironically, DH is from Salem Ma (think Salem Witch Trials) and I am from about 20 minutes from there. There is a fair amount of Wiccans/Pagans/Heathens in our area, so being an outed Pagan has never really been an issue before.

If there was a point to this post, I guess I would have to wonder if I am going to have any major issues on Post because of my religion. In order to lay low on this, I have already decided against openly wearing my Pentacle, or any other blatant symbolism.

And out of humble curiosity.. does anyone else find validity to the other Soldiers saying my DH is a bad Christian for marrying outside his faith? I had never really considered it before. I guess I kinda figured it was the same as if I had been Jewish and he married me. I seem to think less people would have cared about something like that.

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I would be offended by someone saying something like that to my husband Gale! Wow....what was your husband's response to them on that--you don't have to answer that if you don't want to, it was just my curiosity. Smile

As a Christian myself, I really would take offense to someone questioning my "right"....my opinion here only, but that's like asking a Jewish person how they could marry a Catholic, or someone who's Muslim........it's very narrow-minded and judgmental. Not to mention horribly stereo-typical. Bad form....
 
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Heh Thanks BAW!

Yes, it did bother me... I however find very little use in letting a man who does not know me, get to me.

My Husband is not so forgiving. He told the man that he doesn't care who knows about me or what I believe, because he is not ashamed of me. He also said that talking about another man's wife when she is not there to defend herself is just RUDE.

My Husband does not go to Church, but he has taken Christ as his Savior. He went on to talk about the Sermon on the Mount, and how the Bible says it is wrong to Preach for the sake of showing off to others and God.

I am not terribly worried, because I believe my Husband's God knows that I am a good woman and wife. I also believe that his God knows how to take care of his own. That Soldier will reap what he sows.
 
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Good for him on standing up for ya though! Smile As well he should, I think. Wink And he's right though, don't be baggin' on someone when they're not there to defend themselves....it IS rude.

I don't think you'll run into a lot of problems on Post though---to answer your original question. Wink
There's quite a few folks that come on here that have to deal with the 'not so normal' status quo and deal with others that are narrow-minded.
So take heart---there are plenty of folks around that are Pagan. Smile Might want to wander into the Religion in the Military Forum and check them out. I haven't been in there in quite some time, since a nasty little argument broke out between some Atheists and Believers some 6 or 8 months ago....lol....I bowed out of that real quick. Wink
 
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To answer your second question, from a purely Biblical standpoint, the Bible does indeed say that a person shouldn't yoke themselves with an unbeliever (which, as far as I'm concerned as a Christian means a Jewish person, an Atheist, Buddhist, Pagan, etc):

2 Cor 6.14-15: Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

So, perhaps that is what his friends/acquaintances are thinking of. But, in my personal opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean a person isn't a Christian, that just means a person isn't following a Biblical mandate. I don't believe that breaking the rules makes a person NOT a believer (or else none of us would be ....).
 
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Originally posted by Galeforcewind:
If there was a point to this post, I guess I would have to wonder if I am going to have any major issues on Post because of my religion. In order to lay low on this, I have already decided against openly wearing my Pentacle, or any other blatant symbolism.

And out of humble curiosity.. does anyone else find validity to the other Soldiers saying my DH is a bad Christian for marrying outside his faith? I had never really considered it before. I guess I kinda figured it was the same as if I had been Jewish and he married me. I seem to think less people would have cared about something like that.

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Only the ones you would create yourself. I am Pagan, and DH is Christian. I've never had an issue on any post we lived on.....andthe last 2 had Open Circles advertised right next to the Catholic services on the Chapel schedule!

As far as those soldiers go, they are judging you and your DH...doesn't the Bible say "Judge not, lest ye be judged?" I'm sure it does....as I've quoted it half a million times to people who feel that I am here to be judged and found wanting. No validity whatsoever for those soldiers....
 
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Um Allie....a Jewish person does indeed believe in Christ, God, etc....
 
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A Jew does not believe that Christ is Christ. They believe in Jesus the prophet, not that Jesus was the coming Lord. Except for the Messianic Jews, or "Jews for Jesus".
 
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A Jew does not believe that Christ is Christ. They believe in Jesus the prophet, not that Jesus was the coming Lord. Except for the Messianic Jews, or "Jews for Jesus".


I didn't say that they didn't believe that. I said that a Jewish person does indeed believe in God, Christ, etc.
 
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Then our opinions on what is indeed is a "believer" are different. Just my opinion and beliefs, and my perspective on her question.
 
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Originally posted by Galeforcewind:
If there was a point to this post, I guess I would have to wonder if I am going to have any major issues on Post because of my religion. In order to lay low on this, I have already decided against openly wearing my Pentacle, or any other blatant symbolism.

And out of humble curiosity.. does anyone else find validity to the other Soldiers saying my DH is a bad Christian for marrying outside his faith? I had never really considered it before. I guess I kinda figured it was the same as if I had been Jewish and he married me. I seem to think less people would have cared about something like that.

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Only the ones you would create yourself. I am Pagan, and DH is Christian. I've never had an issue on any post we lived on.....andthe last 2 had Open Circles advertised right next to the Catholic services on the Chapel schedule!

As far as those soldiers go, they are judging you and your DH...doesn't the Bible say "Judge not, lest ye be judged?" I'm sure it does....as I've quoted it half a million times to people who feel that I am here to be judged and found wanting. No validity whatsoever for those soldiers....



Thank you! I didnt know some posts had open circles. I wonder if there are any in Graftenwoer (sp) or Vilseck?
 
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There are narrow minded people of all faiths and "non-faiths". Your husband is not letting it get to him, so don't worry about it.

I have friends of various faiths and while I may not share their views I do try to learn about their beliefs. It just helps me to understand them better and to make sure I don't say or do anything to offend them.


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You and your husband live in a free country and you two are free to believe in whatever you want to believe.
What other narrow mind people think shouldn't affect you.After all they do't live with you,pay your bills or give you a glass of water when you are sick.

I'm Catholic,not a fanatic.I believe in God but I don't go to church.
Be a good person is what's important.
 
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I am sorry that you a being made to feel the way you do!! The guy/people at work need to shut up! Why do so many people think they have the right or responsibility to try to judge & save others?!

I have heard too many times someone say they are judging someone else & by doing that not only does it help them get into heaven but it helps the other person change their bad ways & also get into heaven or wherever they believe they are going etc.

I worked with a lady who was Pagan & she wore different items & we would have religious papers & cards dropped of at times to try to save all our souls! Roll Eyes

I understand you dont want to cause any problems etc but it seems very wrong that you cant act how you want or wear items that represent those beliefs!!

Amazing how many people judge & mistreat others in the name of their god or any god!
 
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Galeforcewind

Sorry for what you've gone through recently with other soldiers. It sounds like you shouldn't have much problem with this though (judging by what others have said about their experiences on post), so I'm glad to hear that.

As a Christian, and for your husbands benefit, let me add my thoughts...

Yes, the bible says we should not "yoke" ourselves with nonbelievers... but, you know what... it also says we should not marry someone who has been divorced! How many Christians do you know who have divorced and remarried? Does that mean they're not a Christian?? No, hardly not.

I am divorced & remarried (as is my husband). We are both saved & believers in Christ. We acknowledge the mistakes of our past, and even that perhaps the word does speak against marriages such as our own - yet, we both believe without a doubt that God brought us together... especially after I was able to help save HIS daughter from abuse...

It's not always so clear cut. And, even when it is, others should not voice their OPINIONS about whether someone is or is not a Christian.

A friend, or member of the church might say to him (gently) if he knew him BEFORE your marriage "Are you sure you want to marry a nonbeliever?" and quote scripture to him..... and that would be following what God's word says we should do for one another.

But, the rest of that verse goes on to talk about staying with whom you have married DESPITE their beliefs........ those persons who took it upon themselves to judge should read the REST OF THE STORY.

God Bless!
Amy


In the end, he showed them he was anything but frail. They hammered him to a cross, but he was tougher than nails! ~~~ Joe Diffie
 
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Galeforcewind

Sorry for what you've gone through recently with other soldiers. It sounds like you shouldn't have much problem with this though (judging by what others have said about their experiences on post), so I'm glad to hear that.

As a Christian, and for your husbands benefit, let me add my thoughts...

Yes, the bible says we should not "yoke" ourselves with nonbelievers... but, you know what... it also says we should not marry someone who has been divorced! How many Christians do you know who have divorced and remarried? Does that mean they're not a Christian?? No, hardly not.

I am divorced & remarried (as is my husband). We are both saved & believers in Christ. We acknowledge the mistakes of our past, and even that perhaps the word does speak against marriages such as our own - yet, we both believe without a doubt that God brought us together... especially after I was able to help save HIS daughter from abuse...

It's not always so clear cut. And, even when it is, others should not voice their OPINIONS about whether someone is or is not a Christian.

A friend, or member of the church might say to him (gently) if he knew him BEFORE your marriage "Are you sure you want to marry a nonbeliever?" and quote scripture to him..... and that would be following what God's word says we should do for one another.

But, the rest of that verse goes on to talk about staying with whom you have married DESPITE their beliefs........ those persons who took it upon themselves to judge should read the REST OF THE STORY.

God Bless!
Amy


Amen!

1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
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lol....I knew someone would be able to find it. Big Grin I'm good at remembering the gist of the scripture, but couldn't tell you exactly where to find it. Wink
 
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Roger can always find the scripture...... He's our "local" scholar. Wink

Thanks Roger!

God Bless!
Amy


In the end, he showed them he was anything but frail. They hammered him to a cross, but he was tougher than nails! ~~~ Joe Diffie
 
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merry meet sister.

i am also a pagan wife with a christian husband.
we are very happy and have been married for 10 yrs now.
email me when you get a chance- i bet we have a lot in common.
wendy
 
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Orignially posted by Galeforcewind:
My Husband does not go to Church, but he has taken Christ as his Savior. He went on to talk about the Sermon on the Mount, and how the Bible says it is wrong to Preach for the sake of showing off to others and God.

Well Gale – my opinion as a person like your DH who has accepted Christ as my Savior.
I saw this differently from the others; “this” gave your husband the opportunity to witness to another. In addition to that, even though it’s been 9-months since you’ve all posted here, it has also prompted me to pray for you, and the others!
Coincidence?? or God-incidence??

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