hello, I was hoping that someone could help me out here, hopefully someone knows what I need to do. I recieved an OTH discharge. I have been to the VA several times over the past 10 years. I can never get a straight answer. I was diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome while stationed in Korea, I was scheduled for surgery when I returned State side. While inprocessing Ft. Riley Kansas, and while on
restrictions, "since I was scheduled for surgery" I was forced to partake in physical training, I tried to explain several times my condition, but without any luck. I tried to use the chain of comand, but I new nobody, "I was inprocessing", so i made a very bad decision, and left. When I returned I was charged for being AWOL. Again trying to explain, it was like talking to walls, "so I gave up". They asked if I would like to be discharged and sent home, and at this point that sounded like the best thing in the world, since I just came straight from Korea, after being in Korea for a year straight, so I hadn't been home in over a year. And so I guess like an idiot I said yes, I want to go home. Now, over the last 10 years I have been bouncing from job to job trying to find work that I can do physically. I was on State Disability for awhile, but thats just not enough money to live on. So to sum this all up, I understand that I made poor decisions, but now I am married and have a daughter, and I am disabled from my service to my country. What I need to be able to take care of my family is nothing more than my discharge upgraded, so that I may beable to take advantage of the G.I. Bill that i did pay for, so that I may beable to obtain a degree in a field that is not physical, and works around my disability. please let me know what I can do to make this right. Since I don't think that I can reenlist since I am disabled, even though thats the way I was thrown away.

You are talking to the wrong federal agency. The VA has nothing to do with the characterized of your service at discharge and has no review authority.

Once discharge is finalized, General, Entry-Level/Uncharacterized, and Under Other Than Honorable Conditions (UOTHC or OTH) discharges may be appealed for upgrade through the Discharge Review Board of the respective service, however, the appeal must be filed within 15 years of the date of separation, and it must be shown that the characterization of service was the result of an error or injustice. Bad Conduct Discharges handed down by a Special Court-Martial may be upgraded only as an act of clemency. Discharge Review Boards may also consider appeals for a change to the Narrative Reason for Discharge (contained in Block 28 of the DD 214). The DRB will not consider a request for the change of a Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) or Separation Designator (SPD) Code by itself, however, in the case that a discharge is upgraded, the RE and SPD codes are often changed to correspond with the new characterization of service and/or narrative reason for discharge.

If more than 15 years have passed since discharge, appeals must be directed to the Board For Correction of Military/Naval Records of the respective service. The BCM/NR hears a wide array of appeals and correction requests, and can be utilized by Active Duty, Reserve, National Guard, retired and discharged veterans alike. Normally, an appeal must be filed within 3 years of the occurrence of an error or injustice, however, exceptions are often made.

I got a problem. my job is asking me for a copy off my Dishonoraly discharge how do i go about getting one copy. when i have been down to the Base and they keep on giving me the same freaking answer that they can't find my records at all!

You are a JAFT - Just another Fng Troll!!! MOH & a DD? E-4 USAF and how many sets of Wings for Officers? Grow up and stop Dishonoring those who have earned the MOH!


Report this POS to the MODs

Looks like we have two posts dealing with similar things,7370698 with an OTH discharge and AirManSerrano with a Dishonoraly discharge. The first may have some merit but I'm incredulous. #2 says he "got a problem". I think he got more than a problem. Navy_Grunt, can this JAFT say or do anything to persuade this forum that he and his problem are ligit? Then, what about #1? What do either of these virgins need to provide "us" to deserve another look? So far, nothing persuasive in either bio and that E-4's pilots wings? So far #1+#2= bullshit.

Agreed, just got my blood boiling when I saw the MOH in a Trolls BIO. Too many good people have paid the price for some puke to pull crap like that. Don't know of anything short of writing a letter of apology to each and every one of the living MOH recipients. And to the ones who have gone before, a letter to the family stating that they have brought shame upon themselves for claiming to have been awarded this honor when they have no right to it what so ever.

He is suspended and to be drawn and quartered by the powers that be.

Could he possibly look at vocrehab as an alternative also?

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Originally posted by CWOMadMike:
You are talking to the wrong federal agency. The VA has nothing to do with the characterized of your service at discharge and has no review authority.

Once discharge is finalized, General, Entry-Level/Uncharacterized, and Under Other Than Honorable Conditions (UOTHC or OTH) discharges may be appealed for upgrade through the Discharge Review Board of the respective service, however, the appeal must be filed within 15 years of the date of separation, and it must be shown that the characterization of service was the result of an error or injustice. Bad Conduct Discharges handed down by a Special Court-Martial may be upgraded only as an act of clemency. Discharge Review Boards may also consider appeals for a change to the Narrative Reason for Discharge (contained in Block 28 of the DD 214). The DRB will not consider a request for the change of a Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) or Separation Designator (SPD) Code by itself, however, in the case that a discharge is upgraded, the RE and SPD codes are often changed to correspond with the new characterization of service and/or narrative reason for discharge.

If more than 15 years have passed since discharge, appeals must be directed to the Board For Correction of Military/Naval Records of the respective service. The BCM/NR hears a wide array of appeals and correction requests, and can be utilized by Active Duty, Reserve, National Guard, retired and discharged veterans alike. Normally, an appeal must be filed within 3 years of the occurrence of an error or injustice, however, exceptions are often made.

If he has an OTH, he has no options.

with a oth, at beast he may be able to receive a moral waiver from the National Guard providing he did not receive it from the Army and the recruiting demands are there, The dishonorable discharge has no hope at all

Wow, who do some of guys think you are? No one has anything to prove to you, because of the simple fact that you guys are no-bodies (NAVY_GRUNT, cheapthrills, and others like you 2). These guys are looking for answers and they are entiltled to them. You have no right to calling ppl trolls and other crap like that, becuase of the simple fact that you don't know their story or what they have been through. You need to stop pre-judging and starting looking within yourself and get your spelling and grammer correct before you start judging other ppl. If you did something wrong and you were asking for forgivness you would want it, too.

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Originally posted by 15375346:
Wow, who do some of guys think you are? No one has anything to prove to you, because of the simple fact that you guys are no-bodies (NAVY_GRUNT, cheapthrills, and others like you 2). These guys are looking for answers and they are entiltled to them. You have no right to calling ppl trolls and other crap like that, becuase of the simple fact that you don't know their story or what they have been through. You need to stop pre-judging and starting looking within yourself and get your spelling and grammer correct before you start judging other ppl. If you did something wrong and you were asking for forgivness you would want it, too.

Not to get overly excited about my friend.
I get challenged now and then, even now as we speak on another forum. It happens. I was disillusioned into thinking that this website was a positive only site, but there seems to be a need for some to need proof of this, and proof for that. Competition, which acttually has no place here, does unfortunately exist, and doing rather well. It is a sad commentary that rather than answering questions for the benefit of many, there are too liberal allowances made for personal issues, that are exactly that, personal. No one can really say with total certainty you...this...or you didn't, and with that the person is baited into an exchange he likely would avoid, and such is life. I do hope this changes. I am no one to Judge another, and I pray I never fall victim to becoming judgemental. No one here has an inherent right to bash anyone, to discredit anyone, to challenge anyone. The people that own this website need be reminded that it is NOT a non profit company, and as long as it is a for profit company, don't judge or allow it. The thread is clear..the questions are clear and thus the answers given by whoever must also be clear and NEUTRAL.
Wishing you and yours the best and Godspeed.

Eres Tu !
Freddy

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Posted Wed 23 April 2008 09:34 AM
hello, I was hoping that someone could help me out here, hopefully someone knows what I need to do. I recieved an OTH discharge. I have been to the VA several times over the past 10 years. I can never get a straight answer.

To the post of 7370698
You deserve a decent answer, you didn't come here to be abused. I apologize for those vets that have no agenda but their own.
Go to http://arba.army.pentagon.mil
That would be a good starting point. Wishing you the best and Godspeed.

Eres Tu !
Freddy

F&%(#$%-A Freddy!!

Charles !!
Your nickname suits you very well. I salute you.
Hope you didn't tell me to F,,off

Eres Tu !
Freddy

Naw, just agreed with you, Damn bad lot of negative energy there eariler.

Freddy et al.,

your reach is global

your tower secure

your cause is noble

your power is pure

Naw Freddy, I was just saying
*ucking-A in agreement withyour statements re: the negative energy people were giving off! Maybe some people need new challenges. Seems to me, most of us can do very well for ourselves if we continue to challenge ourselves. I recently started doing this thru walking my dogs, and the positive energy outcome is astounding. I ain't sayin that its the "cure", but its a damn might better than I had been doing!!

Freddy,

How serendipitious!! I hadn't read your reply/message re: negative energy, but posted about challenges and positive energy outcomes. Funny thing is exactly the kind of challenge I'm talking about. I believe that in a sense, your intent (which you've stated many times), to assist/help people here sans judgement can be regarded as a challenge with a most obvious positive outcome sometimes for those you try to help, but always with a positive outcome for you! Think about it for a sec, your unbending intent to help those in need without any type of remittance is its own reward!! I not only speak for you, but for a number of others here as well ie: Ssgtd697, etc....It ias so ****ing obvious!! Damn powerful thing pure unbending intent is without expectation of reward huh?