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Originally posted by stillkit:
What Hagee was doing in those quotes was explaining how and why the Jews were first dispersed and then regathered.

He's not saying the Holocaust was their fault, directly, but a natural offshoot of their rebellion against God and God's plan to subsequently bring them back to the Promised Land.

While it may seem callous to say this, have you considered whether or not there would be a State of Israel today had there not been a Holocaust? Without the slaughter of those Jews, would the world have ever faced up to itself and what has been done to the Jews over the centuries? I personally doubt it.

But to call John Hagee an anti-Semite is the height of ignorance. He's anything but that. In fact, I doubt Israel has a greater friend in the Gentile world that John Hagee.

Go to this website and explore the organization Hagee created out of thin air; Christians United for Israel www.cufi.org It is one of the fastest growing Christian organizations in the country and is drawing widespread support from the Christian community and the political world.

In fact, register for the third annual conference in Washington DC and come join us as we lobby Congress to support the Jewish State and demand our government put an end to the reckless insistance on dividing Israel to placate the Palestinians. Come hear speeches and words of encouragement from the likes of Benjamin Netanyahu, John McCain (yes, he was the only candidate who came to speak to us last year) and a parade of Rabbi's praising the support of Israel by their Christian brothers and praising John Hagee for his committment.

Anti-Semite? Boy, that's a laugh!

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by stillkit:
What Hagee was doing in those quotes was explaining how and why the Jews were first dispersed and then regathered.

He's not saying the Holocaust was their fault, directly, but a natural offshoot of their rebellion against God and God's plan to subsequently bring them back to the Promised Land.

While it may seem callous to say this, have you considered whether or not there would be a State of Israel today had there not been a Holocaust? Without the slaughter of those Jews, would the world have ever faced up to itself and what has been done to the Jews over the centuries? I personally doubt it.

But to call John Hagee an anti-Semite is the height of ignorance. He's anything but that. In fact, I doubt Israel has a greater friend in the Gentile world that John Hagee.

Go to this website and explore the organization Hagee created out of thin air; Christians United for Israel www.cufi.org It is one of the fastest growing Christian organizations in the country and is drawing widespread support from the Christian community and the political world.

In fact, register for the third annual conference in Washington DC and come join us as we lobby Congress to support the Jewish State and demand our government put an end to the reckless insistance on dividing Israel to placate the Palestinians. Come hear speeches and words of encouragement from the likes of Benjamin Netanyahu, John McCain (yes, he was the only candidate who came to speak to us last year) and a parade of Rabbi's praising the support of Israel by their Christian brothers and praising John Hagee for his committment.

Anti-Semite? Boy, that's a laugh!

I am a member of CUFI.

In addition, he has raised millions of dollars for Jewish orphanages and other causes. In addition, he is the founder of "A Night to Honor Israel," which he began about 25 years ago.

John Hagee LOVES the Jewish people.

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
Thank GOD we have the option of writing someone in.

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Originally posted by seawolffortwayne:

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
Thank GOD we have the option of writing someone in.

That's nice if you can. I've got a short list of people I'd write in if I could. We use electronic ballot machines and all you can do is put your finger on the screen to make your selection.

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Originally posted by Kegler300:

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Originally posted by hooah71:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by Kegler300:
Someone here has very little understanding of history, the Bible, and the covenant-relationship between God and the Jews...and it's not Pastor Hagee.

One can have a complete understanding of something and still disagree with it.

I concur

Well, you can disagree with God, but he'll always be right.

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Originally posted by Deepsea04:

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by stillkit:
What Hagee was doing in those quotes was explaining how and why the Jews were first dispersed and then regathered.

He's not saying the Holocaust was their fault, directly, but a natural offshoot of their rebellion against God and God's plan to subsequently bring them back to the Promised Land.

While it may seem callous to say this, have you considered whether or not there would be a State of Israel today had there not been a Holocaust? Without the slaughter of those Jews, would the world have ever faced up to itself and what has been done to the Jews over the centuries? I personally doubt it.

But to call John Hagee an anti-Semite is the height of ignorance. He's anything but that. In fact, I doubt Israel has a greater friend in the Gentile world that John Hagee.

Go to this website and explore the organization Hagee created out of thin air; Christians United for Israel www.cufi.org It is one of the fastest growing Christian organizations in the country and is drawing widespread support from the Christian community and the political world.

In fact, register for the third annual conference in Washington DC and come join us as we lobby Congress to support the Jewish State and demand our government put an end to the reckless insistance on dividing Israel to placate the Palestinians. Come hear speeches and words of encouragement from the likes of Benjamin Netanyahu, John McCain (yes, he was the only candidate who came to speak to us last year) and a parade of Rabbi's praising the support of Israel by their Christian brothers and praising John Hagee for his committment.

Anti-Semite? Boy, that's a laugh!

I am a member of CUFI.

In addition, he has raised millions of dollars for Jewish orphanages and other causes. In addition, he is the founder of "A Night to Honor Israel," which he began about 25 years ago.

John Hagee LOVES the Jewish people.

But he's OK with them roasting in Hell if they don't accept Jesus. And he hates Catholics.

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Originally posted by Deepsea04:

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by stillkit:
What Hagee was doing in those quotes was explaining how and why the Jews were first dispersed and then regathered.

He's not saying the Holocaust was their fault, directly, but a natural offshoot of their rebellion against God and God's plan to subsequently bring them back to the Promised Land.

While it may seem callous to say this, have you considered whether or not there would be a State of Israel today had there not been a Holocaust? Without the slaughter of those Jews, would the world have ever faced up to itself and what has been done to the Jews over the centuries? I personally doubt it.

But to call John Hagee an anti-Semite is the height of ignorance. He's anything but that. In fact, I doubt Israel has a greater friend in the Gentile world that John Hagee.

Go to this website and explore the organization Hagee created out of thin air; Christians United for Israel www.cufi.org It is one of the fastest growing Christian organizations in the country and is drawing widespread support from the Christian community and the political world.

In fact, register for the third annual conference in Washington DC and come join us as we lobby Congress to support the Jewish State and demand our government put an end to the reckless insistance on dividing Israel to placate the Palestinians. Come hear speeches and words of encouragement from the likes of Benjamin Netanyahu, John McCain (yes, he was the only candidate who came to speak to us last year) and a parade of Rabbi's praising the support of Israel by their Christian brothers and praising John Hagee for his committment.

Anti-Semite? Boy, that's a laugh!

I am a member of CUFI.

In addition, he has raised millions of dollars for Jewish orphanages and other causes. In addition, he is the founder of "A Night to Honor Israel," which he began about 25 years ago.

John Hagee LOVES the Jewish people.

But he's OK with them roasting in Hell if they don't accept Jesus. And he hates Catholics.

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Originally posted by stillkit:

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:


I am a member of CUFI.

In addition, he has raised millions of dollars for Jewish orphanages and other causes. In addition, he is the founder of "A Night to Honor Israel," which he began about 25 years ago.

John Hagee LOVES the Jewish people.

Have you been to either of the gatherings in Washington, or are you planning to go this year?

I went to the first two, but am unsure about going this year.

I don't have any doubts about the Biblical mandate to support Israel and I still do, but I came away from the first Washington meeting mad as a dead rat. It felt like I'd been conned into paying to attend a Republican campaign rally. All the true Neo-Con bigwigs were there and when they welcomed Tom Delay like the Messiah had walked into the room, I nearly hurled. I was hot and told Hagee so.

In any case, I was assured that CUFI is not a front organization for the Neo-Con wing of the party and that all Christian denominations and Democrats had been invited, but they declined to attend.

"Ok, I'll take that at face value," I said to myself, so I went last year again and it was much better. No Delay, no Brownback, no Santorum on the stage and a smattering of boo's when George Bushs' name was mentioned. Only Newt Gingrich appeared on stage.

But, I found out later that they were all there again, just hidden away from we lower class supporters at a big donor dinner, where the wealthy contributors to the cause got to hobnob with the K Street boys.

In any case, I'm mad about it again and may not go back unless I see Hagee distancing himself from the Neo-Con's. His endorsement of McCain doesn't help.