We all know most Democrats will vote Obama and most Republicans will vote McCain. All polls show a statistical dead heat, within the margin of error.

But this election will be won or lost on the independent vote. The latest Gallup poll of July 2nd shows Obama losing support with independents and McCain gaining support from independents and the latest poll shows he is leading in that critical group.



In fact, if you review the entire poll results, you will see that McCain, except for an occasional blip, has the independent vote.

This is the group that will decide the election.

The only poll that counts is in November.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
The only poll that counts is in November.

You are right about that. Kerry held a 5 point lead, going into the Nov. vote and the rest is history.

The great thing about our voting system is once you enter the booth, your PC armband generally comes off. Citizens will vote their beliefs in private, when they will be PC constrained in a public poll.

Too bad that a single poll from a single source based on a single aspect amounts to nothing.



Based on numerous amounts of polling data collected daily, if the election were held today, Obama would likely have 320 electoral votes. John McCain had an advantage back when the Democratic primaries were still running, but now that the party is united, Republicans are in serious trouble.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

The cheese gets binding on election day....

When in the election booth one has to vote for McCain or...

Grit their teeth, squint their eyes, bear the pain in their *******, and the pain in their rectum, and hold firm against regergitating, and God forgive them vote for ahhhhhh Oooobama arrrrrgggg

Now wait, over at Kids for Obama it is urging children to pressure their parents to vote for Obama -- maybe a 6 yer old screaming "Vote for me by voting for Obama" could ...wait, I think I'd be less inclined to vote for the manipulator of children.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
The only poll that counts is in November.

.......LMAO!!! Funny how Dems are always quoting polls until it's no in their favor!

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Originally posted by Icegator66:

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
The only poll that counts is in November.

.......LMAO!!! Funny how Dems are always quoting polls until it's no in their favor!

yea no joke and they will fight tooth and nails about how valid polls are..well till they say something they dont like,.,...

McSame will need all the independents he can win over(he's already lost this one).

Trends in the opinions of America's youngest voters are often a barometer of shifting political winds. That appears to be the case in 2008. In Pew Resear4ch surveys conducted between October '07 and March '08 58% of voters under age 30 identified with or leaned towards the Democratic Party, compared to only 33% who identified or leaned towards the GOP. There are other indications that 2008 will see a record turnout of young voters.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/813/gen-dems

I'm not one of those people who has a problem with polls in general but I'm skeptical of the recent election polls. November is a long way off. We are going to see a lot of twists and turns until then. The race between Obama and McCain hasn't really started to get hot and heavy yet.

This election will rise or fall based upon the price of gas at the pump and the subsequent influence that has had all across the economy come November.

And the more that Obama talks of raising taxes etc. the more his position deteriorates. That's is why he is beginning to "redefine" his policies. Someone must have got to him an told him, that when the people are getting reamed, that is not the best time to try and bend them over and slide it in further.

As more people truly examine and think about what his economic policies and proposals really mean? There will be further defections from the populist water cooler crews all around the country.

Socialist idealism is a great thing....right up to the point that the cheerleaders figure out that their lives are gonna take a big hit too.

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Originally posted by BPCR45_90:
McSame will need all the independents he can win over(he's already lost this one).

Trends in the opinions of America's youngest voters are often a barometer of shifting political winds. That appears to be the case in 2008. In Pew Resear4ch surveys conducted between October '07 and March '08 58% of voters under age 30 identified with or leaned towards the Democratic Party, compared to only 33% who identified or leaned towards the GOP. There are other indications that 2008 will see a record turnout of young voters.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/813/gen-dems

You know what they say,

If you're not Liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not Conservative when you're 35, you have no brain.

People don't want to see a Bush enabled Depression.

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Originally posted by ettnes:
You know what they say,

If you're not Liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not Conservative when you're 35, you have no brain.

.....Winston Churchill!

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Originally posted by Icegator66:

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Originally posted by ettnes:
You know what they say,

If you're not Liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not Conservative when you're 35, you have no brain.

.....Winston Churchill!

Is there no end to these clever conservative quips?

By the way, A quick google search reveals this quote never came from Churchill. In addition, he switched from the Conservative party to the Liberal party at age 29.

And back to the conservative party at age 49. You do know the differences between US parties and UK parties right?

....Ok, how 'bout this one then?

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half."

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Originally posted by Icegator66:
....Ok, how 'bout this one then?

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half."

Then we should all keep our eyes on the Whitehouse.

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Originally posted by Meicyn:
Too bad that a single poll from a single source based on a single aspect amounts to nothing.



Based on numerous amounts of polling data collected daily, if the election were held today, Obama would likely have 320 electoral votes. John McCain had an advantage back when the Democratic primaries were still running, but now that the party is united, Republicans are in serious trouble.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

It seems like at this time in the election cycle of 04 John Kerry was ahead too.
Things can change rapidly.
People are beginning to see the real Obama and as soon as McCain wakes up and starts challenging some of his lies and misinformation he will be revealed more.
You also have to remember that we still have Hillary hoovering in the wings waiting for "something to happen" to Obama.
Remember her reference to Robert Kennedy?

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Originally posted by BPCR45_90:
McSame will need all the independents he can win over(he's already lost this one).

Trends in the opinions of America's youngest voters are often a barometer of shifting political winds. That appears to be the case in 2008. In Pew Resear4ch surveys conducted between October '07 and March '08 58% of voters under age 30 identified with or leaned towards the Democratic Party, compared to only 33% who identified or leaned towards the GOP. There are other indications that 2008 will see a record turnout of young voters.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/813/gen-dems

The government School's, socialist indoctrination has had time to start producing good liberals, who go on to liberal colleges where over 90 % of the professors are socialists leaning liberals, who continuing to brainwash our kids.

They have taken away the freedom of speech for conservatives in the colleges to keep those evil ideas out of the heads of the young indoctrinates.

After these young people have lived in the real world for awhile, after leaving college, Many of them discover that they have been mislead and find the right path, usually by the time they are 35, unless they are really brainwashed, or have just not been paying attention.

But you have to say, the government indoctrination schools are accomplishing a lot in the area of socialism, and promoting the "progressive" ideals of the left.

It will become harder and harder for our children to overcome the brain pollution induced by the government as time goes on.