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10 DAY SUSPENSION 3 JAN 09 NEMESIS New Member |
The issue IS NOT Palin's daughter!!!
Palin is against sex education in our schools. She is against birth control. She is against abortion IN ANY CASE. She is against the use of condoms (EVEN FOR MARRIED INDIVIDUALS). The issue has to do with the fact that she can't govern her own familiy, and the values she would impose on the rest of us. She' may have been able to convince her child that rubbers (birth control) are a no-no but she was not able to convince her that sex before marriage (having a child out of wedlock) was improper (based on her values & the values of the REICH)!!! The issue is not Palin's daughter. The issue is the morality she would impose on the rest of us!!! (MNSVHO) |
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WOW! Thanks for bringing that up, that really made me think about my High School day's 1981-1985 We didn't have sex education in our school, and we didn't have girls or guys on any kind of birth control, no one got or needed an abortion. I don't know if anyone in my school used condoms, but I know I didn't, but no one got pregnant.. "Go figure" there was a time when parnets raised their children instead of the schools.. Should it still be that way today? I think so, and clearly Sarah Palin feels the same way. You don't have to remind me that she has a pregnant 17 year old in her house, I know that.. But you know I bet that 17 year old is still in world of chit at home, I doubt very seriously that the Palin parents took the news of their teen daughters pregnacy with any kind of a grain of salt.
That tells me that you have no teenagers at home, until you do then I can't/won't even try to explain. I have two, and I have a whole lot of grey hair to prove it.
Now I know you don't have any teenagers, let me tell you something, I have told my girls some of these same things over, and over, and over.. But all I can do is tell them, I can't hold their hands and follow them around 24/7 not even if I wanted to, all I can do is my very best to teach them right from wrong and just hope that they will do what is right even when I'm not around. The Palin family is no differant.
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OMG Hgary! when i started reading your post i thought you were gonna say that you were in HS sometime like 1921! youre not much older than me [class of 90 as is my husband] but Im curious how you can be so sure that nobody you went to school with used BC or got pg or had an abortion? small school? i was in middle school when you were in HS and we had a few pregnant girls. and plenty and plenty of sex-and no we didnt have any particualrly indepth sex-ed either. so clearly it can work either way. i agree that the issue is not grandbaby to be and thats not an issue for me at all-my mom had me young and i had my ODD young.spoken as someone with 1 teenage daughter,1 teenage stepdaughter and a middle school daughter and preteen stepdaughter I certainly am not hoping for any of them to get pg young but its nowheres by far the worst thing that could happen to them and we would all rally around them just like the Palins [rightfully so] are rallying around their daughter. just popping in to giggle at little at your post which kinda seemed like "in my day we walked uphill to school bothways in the snow with no shoes!" and youre not much older than me. comeon and giggle with me [this is not a slam or nasty just lighthearted ribbing]  |
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Amen hgary.  |
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Got that right. The issue is OPs that don't practice any form of due diligence before they spout. She is Christian and pro-life, but also a supporter of birth control: she's a member of Feminists For Life (FFL), an anti-abortion, pro-contraception organization. While she says that she opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest, she has also said that she supports abortion when the mother's life is in danger ... |
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Blah, blah, blah. More socialist whinning. 
Blah, blah, blah....more intellectual immaturity. |
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15 DAY SUSPENSION 3 JAN 09 Highly Experienced Member |
------------------------------ Most of us get that. That's why we also teach our teens about birth control and STD protection and not just tell them it's wrong to have sex before marriage. Heck, some of us even hand out condoms. Guess Palin wasn't one of those. Unlike you, she thought teaching her teen not to have sex in high school would be good enough and she sure didn't need the school teaching anything different. |
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Good morning sunshine! i see your girl crush on me is still in effect blah blah blah-in case you didnt notice sweetie i was actually AGREEING with Hgary. i HAVE teenage daughters and did not agree with the original Op. keep on keeping on though. shows me how very much you care!   would you like me to go back and disagree with him so your post could seem less foolish? |
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Your basis for your comment? Here's my basis for challenging your "guess" ... She is Christian and pro-life, but also a supporter of birth control: she's a member of Feminists For Life (FFL), an anti-abortion, pro-contraception organization. |
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So what would we have the Palin's do throw the daughter under the bus?
She is a kid who made a choice and now they as a family will deal with that choice she made in the best way they see fit. No matter how hard we as parents try and teach our children about life and choices we can not be with them 24/7 so there are times in life that the choices they make have to be dealt with in a manner that parents and families all over this country have to deal with. As a parent I try and think about what it was like when I was growing up, knowing I made mistakes along the way and knowing they will , too. I would never tell someone else how to deal with their children, (regardless whether I agree or not) any more than I think someone should tell me how to deal with mine. Personally I do not want the schools educating my kids about sex (and by the way neither one of them took the course in school) but if others feel that is the way they want their kids to learn then so be it. That is their choice. It would just seem like to me we should allow the Palin's to handle a choice made by their daughter in the way they see best for their family. |
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You know, that's funny, every time dems adherers talk about morality, it reminds me to oral office, cigars, a lying and nearly impeached president. Looks like the ones with the biggest glass houses like to throw the biggest stones.
You're scared that she would impose morality on you ? It would really not hurt if you would be able to learn something about her morality.
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Well yeah it was, I didn't even know that their actully were towns and cities that had more than one High School in them until after I had graduated and went into the Military, our town had one grade school, one middle school, and one high school, the reason I know that no one got pregnant was because everyone knew everyone. If somone had of wanted to go get an abortion there sure wasn't anywhere around Iowa Park Texas to go get one in the first place.
Well that's messed up how old is the average 8th grader 13? How does a 13 year old get pregnant? Any parnet that doesn't have enough control over what a 13 year old child does shouldn't be a parent in the first place. 13 is WAY too young for a girl to go out on a date, and WAY too young for boy friends. A 13 year old girl is to go to school, come home, do homework, eat dinner and go to bed to get rested for school tommorow. That's it! That's the way it is in my house for my 13 year old and my 15 year old daughters. Am I just not a cool dad, or am I way behind the times? I don't think so.
I know there will come a day when my girls do start dating boys, I know it's coming, I will continue to do my best at teaching my girls right from wrong, but yes if something does happen like what happened to the Palin family I will be as supportive as possable, but to a limit. I will tell my girls just like my parents told me "If you are old enough to go out and have children you best be able to take care of them, because I won't!"
I was brought up a little differant than city kids, and my parents were both very much "old school" I did have to walk a pretty damn straight line growing up, I knew that if I didn't there would be Hell to pay, I was 18 years old when I graduated HS and went in the Military, and the day I left home I still had to walk that line. Now that I'm a parent I make my girls walk that same line that I did, they don't fear me but they know there will be Hell if they ever cross me. There are too many parents today that let their kids do what they want to do, wear what they want to wear, go where ever they want to go and who with. That crap needs to stop and parents need to start being parents again. |
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The selection of Mrs. Palin confirms that the people around Sen. McCain are as incompetent as those around President Bush.
Jumped the gun on this gal and I am sure they are already bigtime sorry. |
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Sorry for what? Did Sarah Palin do something that I'm not aware of? |
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Hgary thanks for taking my post in the spirit in which it was intended i was thinking it may be a town/city difference [makes perfect sense to me] as far as parenting you certainly state lots of beliefs that I hold as my own. im not sure what else we may agree or disagree on but on this on we are --->right here<------  |
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Proud to be a Christian, gun owning, American veteran and redneck. God bless the USA and our vets! ------------------  Proud Member ------------------ Experienced Member  |
Please provide CREDIBLE proof of your accusations that Mrs. Palin is the responsible party for her daughter's pregnancy. I also want to see any proof (that is, once again, credible) where she does not support birth control, including condoms. Provide specific instances released by her. I'll give you 24 hours. Then I will lock this topic and suspend you failing CREDIBLE proof of your contentions. Otherwise, you may reply here that you are stating your opinion and reap the wrath of your contentions yourself. It's not that there is no God or that He isn't listening. You're probably just asking the wrong questions. |
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Basically, have Gov and Mr Palin committed an unethical act? I think not!
Has Bristol Palin committed an unethical act? I think Not! Once, I was a teen! I had sex with a couple girls! My wife and I've reared two wonderful, great, adult daughters. Did they have pre-marriage sex. I suspect they did. We taught them against that. As they mature, Children WILL make their OWN CHOICES, and others are STUPID to judge the Parents ON WHAT CHOICES THEIR Maturing Children make. If you choose to hold this against the Palins; then, there a many other "Glowing Examples" to hold Politicians accountable for their family members' actions. Start with: "President Clinton pardoned 140 people, including Roger Clinton for a drug conviction, and commuted the sentence of 36 others in his last hours as president. Roger Clinton was charged Wednesday with driving while intoxicated and disorderly conduct after an incident last weekend in Hermosa Beach, California. Braswell and Vignali paid Hugh Rodham, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's brother, for his role in helping secure clemency from then-President Clinton. The former president acknowledged Wednesday that his brother-in-law, Hugh Rodham, had been paid almost $400,000 for legal work on applicants for presidential clemency for both Vignali and Braswell." See: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/02/22/burton.rich.02/ From A Proud Vietnam Veteran |
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Where is your head at anyway..She wouldn't Impose anything On me I can think for my self and I would be the one imposing the morals on my family . I am not a monkey see monkey do person and I believe a mojarity of familys feel that way. Besides a 17 year old now a days feels she can make up her own mind. In a few months no one will have any control over her unless she wants cotrolled. I really think the Democrats are really sick using children to try to blackball someone. It was discussed on the news that the baby she was holding was also hers. that according to Katy Coric on the news was found on a democrat Blog. God you dems are really getting desperate to be that sick. SEABEE'S "CAN DO", "HAVE DONE", AND WILL DO SO FOREVER. GOD BLESS AMERICA |
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VERY GOOD POST! ~ VERY GOOD POINT MADE!!! |
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GONE 8 Nov Fin Experienced Member |
Great!!!!
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