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"ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Just as Sen. Ted Stevens appeared ready to take his criminal record back to Congress — perhaps opening a door for Gov. Sarah Palin to replace him — his re-election bid faltered."
Looks like the convicted felon might actually lose his re-election bid. Too bad. Guess Sarah won't be able to replace him. She probably would have replaced him with herself. Now they might be stuck with a Democrat who doesn't have a criminal record.  |
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Some politicians on both sides of the aisle are so egotistical, they can't even see their own corruption. Stevens should have resigned immediately upon his conviction, even though he's not technically convicted until he loses the appeal. Shameful!
I doubt that Gov Palin would want to become a senator at this point. She can have more impact as a governor. As far as Begich being squeaky clean, just give him time. |
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True. DC is a slippery slope of questionable ethics. Even the most idealistic public servant can find themselves making compromises they never thought they would. How far one slips is directly relational to one's own ethical compass. What is that saying about power corrupting? |
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he didnt even really run... it was too late to take his name off the ballots when he was found guilty.... he is going to jail and not congress....
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"Technically", he is convicted already. Otherwise, there would be nothing to appeal. The appeal is to overturn the conviction.
He said on TV that he was going to run (and win) even after he got convicted on the 7 felony counts. He told the reporter that his felony charges didn't matter and he would run regardless. He's also unlikely to go to jail anyway. He's got a lot of clout and will likely get off with a slap on the wrist fine or something similar. |
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All too true. They get in that Beltway culture and think they're above us lesser mortals. |
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he had no choice but to run it was too late to take hm off...
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That was on purpose. The charges were filed against him with plenty of time for him to take his name off. It was clear he knew he was guilty, he was just hoping to postpone the verdict until it was too late to take his name off the ballot. |
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While a niggling technicality, in the federal system, a "conviction" does not occur until sentencing. As it stands, Sen Stevens has been found guilty by a jury but has not been convicted. I know, it sounds like doublespeak.
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Nonsense! It was a little late to look for a replacement candidate, but that was his fault. Stevens should have seen this coming(knowing he was guilty) and bowed out early enough for someone else without the taint of a corruption scandal to run in his place. |
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He and his lawyers also caused delays in the which caused the conviction to happen right before the election. In fact he tried to use the election to get the trial delayed so he would be able to run for re-election before the trial. |
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He may have known he was guilty but IMO he thought he could win the court case. |
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That's so true. Every day when I cross I495, I feel the urge to urinate on a peon.  |
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Ten day suspension for violation of TOS 6ii. 05 Feb Gypsysnipe |
I think you're confusing the word "sentenced" with the word "convicted". Ted Stevens has been CONVICTED. American Heritage Dictionary con·vict (kən-vĭkt') Pronunciation Key v. con·vict·ed, con·vict·ing, con·victs v. tr. 1. Law To find or prove (someone) guilty of an offense or crime, especially by the verdict of a court: The jury convicted the defendant of manslaughter. 2. To show or declare to be blameworthy; condemn: His remarks convicted him of a lack of sensitivity. 3. To make aware of one's sinfulness or guilt. |
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Depends on who you talk to:
Law professors interviewed Friday agreed Stevens is technically correct. He won't officially, legally, be considered "convicted" until his sentencing. But as a practical matter, it's misleading to tell the general public there was no conviction, said Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.
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A lot of people around here, including myself, believe in Ted Stevens. He has been a wonderful Senator and he is a very caring and giving man. Many of us think the trial was complete BS and was rigged from the beginning. I voted for him and many others here did as well. You all think you know something but in reality, you haven't a clue about the man himself. There are at least another 10,000 votes to be counted. Begich is a little ****** and I pray he doesn't win or we will be screwed here. He is the crook, not Stevens. It ain't over till it's over
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Coming from you that gives me pause.
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I know it is hard to believe when it comes to politicians ... but he has been a rock for us and he still is. The only ones here who do not like him have bought into all of the crap Begich has tried to spread about him in his goal to be Senator. Those are made up of mostly the transplants in anchortown and Juneau, who do not know him or what great things he has done for this state. |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
McCain and Palin both asked the convicted felon to resign his senate seat after the conviction. The convicted felon didn't. So, if he wins re-election to the Senate, what will this say about the felon, or the GOP?
I thought the GOP wanted to start a new image for their party?  No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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