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Originally posted by samh32:
Obama has more threats than other presidents-elect


Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging." In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.

And in a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner," said the sign, since taken down.

In the security world, anything "new" can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.

Obama, of course, will be the country's first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. "Anytime you're going to have something that's new, you're going to have increased chatter," he said.

The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to assume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.

The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are "stated threats" and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of "unusual interest" — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.

Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.

A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — "a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it."

There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:

• In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an assassination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.

• Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and assassinate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.

In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.

In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.

Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.

One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."

It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.

"The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them," Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.

Well Sammy, if I were Treasury Secretary Paulson, the Secret Service detail is doubled as of now. He is no longer availed the protection of a candidate, but as President-elect. Around January 20th, you increase the detail to whatever degree possible without getting unwieldy. You get every undercover IRS agent deployed now in the Hillbilly Heavens around the country to check every rumor, and find out who are the real Timothy McVeighs and seperate them from the drunk knuckleheads that are just venting about false assumptions. Too sad and ironic this "dead pool" was in Maine, whose forefathers in the 20th Maine saved the whole Union Army from having their flank turned at the Round Tops. What a strange world after all.

It isnt the open threats to worry about.If someone really wants to do him harm,they wont be going around broadcasting it.Worry about the ones in the back ground making plans.

If anything should happen to that man, God forbid, a portion of the blame will rest squarely upon those who circulated all those thousands of hate e-mails during the campaign AND those who passed them on.

A larger portion will belong to those who crafted McCain's campaign of fear, thinnly veiled hate and racial pandering.

The politics of fear isn't just politics to some fools. It's real, and this is one more reason why it has to stop.

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Originally posted by wilddavemsg:
It isnt the open threats to worry about.If someone really wants to do him harm,they wont be going around broadcasting it.Worry about the ones in the back ground making plans.

Roger that, msg. The people that knew McVeigh well had an inkling that he would do something big but he kept his own counsel for the most part. Even the best operative would have trouble with the when and how. Too late.

dont worry he wont last long... already people filling law suites for him to put up or get out....


put up or get out obama... we dont want con men!!!

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Originally posted by stillkit:
If anything should happen to that man, God forbid, a portion of the blame will rest squarely upon those who circulated all those thousands of hate e-mails during the campaign AND those who passed them on.

A larger portion will belong to those who crafted McCain's campaign of fear, thinnly veiled hate and racial pandering.

The politics of fear isn't just politics to some fools. It's real, and this is one more reason why it has to stop.

yea real smart blaim everyone else but the person himself.... maybe if barry didnt try to con America not so many people would be so ticked off at him... he will go down from a lawsuit tho.... a new one has just been filed against barry....

Obama won an open and free election, he needs to be proteced and I bet law infocement is Keeping a sharp eye and ear tuned!

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Originally posted by samh32:
Obama has more threats than other presidents-elect


Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging." In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.

And in a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner," said the sign, since taken down.

In the security world, anything "new" can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.

Obama, of course, will be the country's first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. "Anytime you're going to have something that's new, you're going to have increased chatter," he said.

The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to assume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.

The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are "stated threats" and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of "unusual interest" — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.

Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.

A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — "a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it."

There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:

• In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an assassination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.

• Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and assassinate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.

In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.

In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.

Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.

One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."

It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.

"The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them," Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.

Only someone who is utterly ignorant would think you need to remind the SS of thier duty. Of course the left has no idea what Duty, Honor, Country, really means. The left has no idea what selfless service is, what it means to place anothers welfare above your own.

You just insulted the entire SS, the entire military, police, and every other man and woman who wears the flag of this nation, who picks up a weapon against the enemies of freedom and hold that line.

Well done.

Let's see.......O.K. I'm about to reveal a big secret to you......I can't STAND the thought of socialism!! SURPRISE!!!

The thought of any violence befalling this man though, makes my blood run cold!!

Now, as far as socialism is concerned, we just gave away the store people!! The last seven weeks with G.W.B. and co. Barney fragg and all the other miscreants have nationalised a huge portion of the American economy already!!

Game over!! Turn in your chips!! Done deal!! Get it???

We just "invested" (yeah right) ONE TRILLION ONE HUNDERED FIFTY NINE BILLION DOLLARS!! To do just what some are accusing Obama, of wanting to do!!

Do any of you think, we can now say NO!! To those who want their health care handed to them?? Or say NO!! To any number of bulls*** schemes that are on the horizon?? Get a grip people, it ain't happenin'!!

Try saying NO!! Now and the gutters will run with blood!!

We have, as acountry, been driven like the sheeple most are, to this. And, mark my words, there is no turning back now.

The only issue remaining IS, how much force will be required to finish the process. I predict very little, as most people will be easily bought off, as they are getting what they want, something, as they percieve it, for nothing.

SO!! You want to be especially careful, of just how you phrase things, from here on out, as the accusations of implied violence, Destructive speech, or, "hate speech" and many other "threats to society" are going to increase to keep a lid on it!!

Be as well as you can, in this "Brave new world"

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In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.

no the skinheads are not capable of carrying out their plots.... hell i know that....ive explained it a few different times around here somewhere...

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Now, as far as socialism is concerned, we just gave away the store people!! The last seven weeks with G.W.B. and co. Barney fragg and all the other miscreants have nationalised a huge portion of the American economy already!!

all that bail out stuff was the dems... here is a video to watch..

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B4laX1E70&NR=1"

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Only someone who is utterly ignorant would think you need to remind the SS of thier duty. Of course the left has no idea what Duty, Honor, Country, really means. The left has no idea what selfless service is, what it means to place anothers welfare above your own.

You just insulted the entire SS, the entire military, police, and every other man and woman who wears the flag of this nation, who picks up a weapon against the enemies of freedom and hold that line.

Well done.

You said what my first thoughts were. I didn't vote for him but he is going to be my next POTUS. I hope no one gets close enough to do him harm. That is not saying that if they did, I would blame the SS for not protecting him. No matter how much is done, there is always the chance of someone getting through. Each and every one of us that have, are or will serve the country in some form should know that. I pray that no one gets through. That is not how Americans handle things.

It was thought that he has already chosen his own body guards...

Honestly, this is awful to carry such hate for someone to do him harm.

But there are sick people out there that might try and carry it out.

He won, if you did not vote for him then you have to rally your troops and vote his behind out in the next election.

You can't go Ayers on him. That is not how we do it here.

He will get the proper protection and the best at that.

The radical liberals cry about our military and government system but they are the first to call on it when they are in trouble.

I could not believe Ayers had the nerve to call the same police department he bombed to protect him from the big bad fox news reporter. Give me a break.

Because of our military these loud mouth radical liberals even have the freedom to spout off their nonsense. Go live some place else for awhile and see how much freedom of anything you have there.

Insulting they live here and do not thank God everyday that they are so lucky. Instead, they put on the side of a bus that God does not exist.

tisk tisk

anything happen to this guy, or even a attempt and there will be open warfare on and in the streets, lot of people will die

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Ira I don't think so. There will be allot of sad folks... Obama just needs to clean up his eligibility mess.

Look what happened when MLK was killed and after Rodney King was beat up. If the country didn't explode - now that would be a miracle - -

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dont worry he wont last long... already people filling law suites for him to put up or get out....

Please give us at least one example.

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The thought of any violence befalling this man though, makes my blood run cold!!

Has a president-elect ever been attacked or killed?