Why not just give him a link to yahoo.com?
There is a bill that is being considered in this year's defense bill 110th Congress; I believe the bill is the Wounded Warriors Act. Also, HR 333 includes chapter 61's for Concurrent Receipt and this will be discussed in Conference between House and Senate Conferees towards the final HR 1585 bill. We probably won't here if chapter 61s are in the final bill until mid December.
Steve

DoD Programs Addressing the Issue of Concurrent Receipt
1. Concurrent Retirement & Disability Payments (CRDP) - January 2004
2. Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) - June 2003
3. Special Compensation for Severely Disabled Retirees (SCSD) –
October 1999, Repealed January 1, 2004
The Department of Defense (DoD) is, and has been, making extra payments to retirees to overcome some or all the offset from retired pay associated with receipt of disability compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). Retirees cannot receive benefits simultaneously under more than one of these three programs. The programs are:
1. Concurrent Retirement and Disability Payment (CRDP): The FY 2004 NDAA provides a 10-year phase-out of the offset to military retired pay due to receipt of VA disability compensation for members whose combined disability rating is 50% or greater. Members retired under disability provisions (10 U.S. Code chapter 61) must have 20 years of service. This entitlement is taxable.
Effective January 1, 2004: Payments were made to nearly 150,000 qualified retirees on February 2, 2004. Those who had significant complications in their accounts (such as former spouse divisions or retirement under chapter 61) were delayed until their account could be manually reviewed, but were paid retroactively. Today, more than 158,000 retirees are receiving CRDP payments of over $57 million per month.
Effective January 1, 2005: Those individuals actually rated 100% disabled by the VA are eligible to receive all of their formerly offset military retired pay without the offset phase out.
Effective October 1, 2009: Those individuals not rated 100% disabled by VA, but are paid at the 100% level as "Individual Unemployables" (IUs), are entitled to receive all of their formerly offset military retired pay beginning October 1, 2009.
Initial Rates: CRDP is part of retired pay and cannot exceed the amount that would be otherwise offset. During CY 2004, CRDP was paid to qualified retirees up to the following maximum amount based on the current monthly VA disability rating:
100% (total) $750
90% $500
80% $350
70% $250
60% $125
50% $100
Phase Out: Payments above are increased each year following 2004, based on a percentage of the remaining amount of retired pay still being offset for each individual until the offset is completely eliminated in 2014. November 20, 2006
No Application Required: Applications for CRDP are neither required nor accepted. DFAS will determine CRDP benefits automatically. Retirees who are not receiving payments, but believe they qualify, should contact their Military Department or DFAS to determine the reason for non-payment.
Information: Additional information is available at the following web site:
DFAS: http://www.dod.mil/dfas/retiredpay/pageindex.html
2. Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC): The CRSC program pays added benefits to retirees who receive VA disability compensation for combat-related disabilities and have 20 years of service. This entitlement is non-taxable.
Effective June 1, 2003: Initially, benefits were payable to members with a combined combat-related disability rating of 60% of more, or with a combined rating of 10% or more for combat-related injuries for which they were awarded a Purple Heart.
Effective January 1, 2004: Eligibility was expanded to members with any combined percentage rating for combat-related disabilities compensated by the VA. Eligibility criteria was also relaxed with respect to the 20 year requirement to include any member otherwise qualified who is receiving Reserve retired pay (paid at age 60 based on points for Reserve participation with 20 "good" years).
Application Required: To receive CRSC benefits, retirees must apply with their Branch of Service on a DD Form 2860. The Service will determine which disabilities, if any, qualify as combat-related. DFAS will pay CRSC based on the current combined disability rating of combat-related disabilities as compensated for the current month by VA. Benefits before January 2004 are based on the VA compensation rate for a “veteran alone” and applicable to only those disabilities determined as combat-related.
Information: Additional information is available at the following web sites:
Army: http://www.crsc.army.mil/
Navy & Marine Corps: http://www.hq.navy.mil/ncpb/CRSCB/combatrelated.htm
Air Force: http://ask.afpc.randolph.af.mil/crsc/
DoD: http://www.defenselink.mil/prhome/mppcrsc.html
Services may be contacted at the following addresses and toll-free numbers:
• ARMY:
U.S. Total Army Personnel Command U.S. Army Physical Disability Agency (CRSC) c/o The Adjutant General Directorate 2461 Eisenhower Avenue Alexandria VA 22331-0470 (Toll free 1-866-281-3254)
November 20, 2006
• NAVY AND MARINE CORPS: Department of Navy Naval Council of Personnel Boards Combat-Related Special Compensation Branch 720 Kennon Street S.E., Suite 309 Washington Navy Yard, DC 20374-5023 (Toll free 1-877-366-2772)
• AIR FORCE: United States Air Force Personnel Center Disability Division (CRSC) 550 C Street West, Suite 6 Randolph AFB TX 78150-4708 (Toll Free 1-800-616-3775)
3. Special Compensation for Severely Disabled Retirees (SCSD): The SCSD program was repealed effective January 1, 2004, and replaced with more generous benefits under the CRDP program described above. Members had to have 20 years of service for the computation of retired pay. Those retired under disability retirement provisions (i.e., chapter 61, title 10, United States Code) were excluded from eligibility.
Effective October 1, 1999: SCSD became effective October 1, 1999 for qualified retirees with VA disabilities rated 70% or more within 4 years of retirement. The criteria were relaxed October 1, 2001, to include chapter 61 retirees so long as they had the required 20 years of service. Effective February 1, 2002, the criteria were again relaxed to include those with disabilities rated 60% or more within 4 years of retirement. 37,000 members were eventually compensated. Members not compensated who provide evidence of their qualifications may be retroactively compensated for any months in which they met the requirements of law.
Effective January 1, 2004: No benefits are payable under SCSD for periods after December 31, 2003
RATES - The rates applicable over various periods were as follows and based on the disability rating compensated by the VA for the month of entitlement:
VA Rating Oct 1999 Feb 2002 Jan 2003 Jan 2004
60% N/A $50 $50 Pro-
70% $100 $100 $100 gram
80% $100 $100 $125 Re-
90% $200 $200 $225 pealed
100% (Total) $300 $300 $325
No Application Required: Applications for SCSD were neither required nor accepted. Qualified members were identified and paid by DFAS using data in DoD and VA system files.
November 20, 2006

APDES Supporting Links
Governing Regulations

1. AR 40-400, Patient Administration

2. AR40-501, Standards of Medical Fitness, Chapter 3 & 7

3. AR 600-60, Physical Performance Evaluation System

4. AR 635-40, Physical Evaluation for Retention, Retirement, or
Separation

5. DODD Number 1332.18, Separation or Retirement for Physical Disability

6. DODI Number 1332.38, Physical Disability Evaluation

7. DODI Number 1332.39, Application of the Veterans Administration Schedule for Rating
Disabilities

8. Title 10 U.S.C. (Chapter 61)

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART II > CHAPTER 61CHAPTER 61—RETIREMENT OR SEPARATION FOR PHYSICAL DISABILITY
How Current is This? § 1201. Regulars and members on active duty for more than 30 days: retirement
§ 1202. Regulars and members on active duty for more than 30 days: temporary disability retired list
§ 1203. Regulars and members on active duty for more than 30 days: separation
§ 1204. Members on active duty for 30 days or less or on inactive-duty training: retirement
§ 1205. Members on active duty for 30 days or less: temporary disability retired list
§ 1206. Members on active duty for 30 days or less or on inactive-duty training: separation
§ 1206a. Reserve component members unable to perform duties when ordered to active duty: disability system processing
§ 1207. Disability from intentional misconduct or willful neglect: separation
§ 1207a. Members with over eight years of active service: eligibility for disability retirement for pre-existing conditions
§ 1208. Computation of service
§ 1209. Transfer to inactive status list instead of separation
§ 1210. Members on temporary disability retired list: periodic physical examination; final determination of status
§ 1211. Members on temporary disability retired list: return to active duty; promotion
§ 1212. Disability severance pay
§ 1213. Effect of separation on benefits and claims
§ 1214. Right to full and fair hearing
§ 1215. Members other than Regulars: applicability of laws
§ 1216. Secretaries: powers, functions, and duties
§ 1217. Academy cadets and midshipmen: applicability of chapter
§ 1218. Discharge or release from active duty: claims for compensation, pension, or hospitalization
§ 1219. Statement of origin of disease or injury: limitations
[§ 1220. Repealed.]
§ 1221. Effective date of retirement or placement of name on temporary disability retired list

Loud and Clear: currently Chapter 61 eligibility is 20 plus years. That is the regulation. Somewhere a line must be drawn, or everyone who ever served, will expect the maximum. Currently a new line is being discussed, you need to contact your two US Senators and your US Representative and advise them of your feelings.
Topics discussing this subject:
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http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/739197221/m/2660005880001
and a new topic on the subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/3670035651001

Dave, thanks for the well presented documentation on this issue.

It sure is, thanks a bunch for all that, will take me a while to digest it all.

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Originally posted by Dave_M:
Dave, thanks for the well presented documentation on this issue.

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Originally posted by DaveBarker:
Loud and Clear: currently Chapter 61 eligibility is 20 plus years. That is the regulation. Somewhere a line must be drawn, or everyone who ever served, will expect the maximum. Currently a new line is being discussed, you need to contact your two US Senators and your US Representative and advise them of your feelings.
Topics discussing this subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/4921917516
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/739197221/m/2660005880001
and a new topic on the subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/3670035651001

A line must be drawn a retired from the military a fair line all retired should be elible forc CR OR CRSC I Cwas cforced vcto vcretire I vchad a a good carere vcgoing vcalways promoted ca head of my peers promised call bennies of a 20 year retiree Along comes CR good by promieses. Yes me and other chapter 61's deserve CR and CSRC .And more Dave.IMO ALL WHO SERVED DESERVE ALL THEY CAN GET OR THE MAXS.

I am still trying to form an informed opinion on this issue. I think somewhere along the line is the feeling of inequity between the war wounded that have "borne the burden of battle" and the dufus that spent a couple years at some plush assignment in the US and while oogling some well endowed DAC, falls off the stairway. I know I have that problem, MANY disabilities have absolutely nothing whatever to do with the military, except for the fact that the dufus would have been at home doing the same thing. Most employers don't compensate their employees that screw themselves up on their own time I don't think, do they? My son is one of them, screwed up his knee in an off base football game. Gets a big severance pay, now draws the same as a soldier that got shot in combat. Is that fair? I don't know, I am just asking the question. I think CRSC was an attempt to make the difference, I get my CRSC tax free, the oogling dufus has to pay tax on his.
Help me process all this guys!
QUOTE]A line must be drawn a retired from the military a fair line all retired should be elible forc CR OR CRSC I Cwas cforced vcto vcretire I vchad a a good carere vcgoing vcalways promoted ca head of my peers promised call bennies of a 20 year retiree Along comes CR good by promieses. Yes me and other chapter 61's deserve CR and CSRC .And more Dave.IMO ALL WHO SERVED DESERVE ALL THEY CAN GET OR THE MAXS.[/QUOTE]

If most chapter 61's would get behimnd these bills and if vetrans avocate groups would also back them to the MAXS I think these bills would stand a chance to pass. After four years to the best of my knoldge none of these bills have even come to a floor vote.The right people will not back them . I belive it to be the old polical dog and pony show.There is not enough money to support the Iraqis and tro pay CR and CSRC for chaptewr 61's. VP Cheany stated the oil revanews would pay for this war. If so why is this country so far indebt manily because of the war I have no problem with the funding that goes to our troops. But I do when it goes to supporting Iraqis and takes away from our vets.

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Originally posted by 16332659:

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Originally posted by DaveBarker:
Loud and Clear: currently Chapter 61 eligibility is 20 plus years. That is the regulation. Somewhere a line must be drawn, or everyone who ever served, will expect the maximum. Currently a new line is being discussed, you need to contact your two US Senators and your US Representative and advise them of your feelings.
Topics discussing this subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/4921917516
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/739197221/m/2660005880001
and a new topic on the subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/3670035651001

A line must be drawn a retired from the military a fair line all retired should be elible forc CR OR CRSC I Cwas cforced vcto vcretire I vchad a a good carere vcgoing vcalways promoted ca head of my peers promised call bennies of a 20 year retiree Along comes CR good by promieses. Yes me and other chapter 61's deserve CR and CSRC .And more Dave.IMO ALL WHO SERVED DESERVE ALL THEY CAN GET OR THE MAXS.

The question is where is the line drawn? I personally served on both active duty and reserve. I was in combat, however not physically wounded. I receive no VA benefits now, none at all. I did receive a VA Loan Guaranty in 1976 and GI Bill education benefits that carried me through college 1966 to '71 and part of my graduate school studies 1971-'73. So something for me is not an issue, it is what is fair for my fellow veterans and retirees.
When it comes to Chapter 61 where is it going to be cut off. I have a client who served 4 years and was medically retired and placed on TDRL. He was later permanently retired. Now should he be granted 100% VA compensation and his Army pension? While 10's of thousands were simply discharged and receive VA compensation.
The issue is where is the line to be drawn.

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Originally posted by DaveBarker:

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Originally posted by 16332659:

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Originally posted by DaveBarker:
Loud and Clear: currently Chapter 61 eligibility is 20 plus years. That is the regulation. Somewhere a line must be drawn, or everyone who ever served, will expect the maximum. Currently a new line is being discussed, you need to contact your two US Senators and your US Representative and advise them of your feelings.
Topics discussing this subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/4921917516
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/739197221/m/2660005880001
and a new topic on the subject:
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9631980444/m/3670035651001

A line must be drawn a retired from the military a fair line all retired should be elible forc CR OR CRSC I Cwas cforced vcto vcretire I vchad a a good carere vcgoing vcalways promoted ca head of my peers promised call bennies of a 20 year retiree Along comes CR good by promieses. Yes me and other chapter 61's deserve CR and CSRC .And more Dave.IMO ALL WHO SERVED DESERVE ALL THEY CAN GET OR THE MAXS.

The question is where is the line drawn? I personally served on both active duty and reserve. I was in combat, however not physically wounded. I receive no VA benefits now, none at all. I did receive a VA Loan Guaranty in 1976 and GI Bill education benefits that carried me through college 1966 to '71 and part of my graduate school studies 1971-'73. So something for me is not an issue, it is what is fair for my fellow veterans and retirees.
When it comes to Chapter 61 where is it going to be cut off. I have a client who served 4 years and was medically retired and placed on TDRL. He was later permanently retired. Now should he be granted 100% VA compensation and his Army pension? While 10's of thousands were simply discharged and receive VA compensation.
The issue is where is the line to be drawn.

Yes dave there should be a line but one thing for sure the line must not be 20 years. If a bit of reasch were done it would show at whot years of servece people are medicaly retired one place to start .We still need all those vetrans Advocates with us and not against us.

My personel belife is retired is retired.

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We still need all those vetrans Advocates with us and not against us.

I am with you, as are most of the veterans advocates. The issue is where is the line to be drawn?

Retired is retired, but do you advocate a person receiving double benefits for a four year tour? Is that fair, just because his or her Commanding Officer treated them better than another CO treated someone else? Here we are again, where do you draw the line?
Retired may be 20 years, it may be 19 years, maybe 18 years, it surely is not 4 years at age 21 or 22!

[QUOTE]Here we are again, where do you draw the line?
Retired may be 20 years, it may be 19 years, maybe 18 years, it surely is not 4 years at age 21 or 22![QUOTE]

YES IT IS RETIREMENT! IT IS MEDICAL RETIREMENT IF YOU ARE RATED AT OVER 30% OR MORE BY THE DOD.

Trust me, those like me that are tossed out with nothing but a joke of a "RETIREMENT" check based of a BS "HIGH THREE" system (although Tricare bennies are the only good thing) need concurrent receipt more than any 20 year retiree with higher pay who also gets 50% VA disability. H O R S E S H I T E IMHO!

The rich get rich while the poor stay poor, GOD BLESS AMERICA!