Where are the seconds wanting to go? How many seconds at land stations chose cutters? what billet number is usually slated to someone who is tour complete on a 378?

What did your Chief or OS1 say during your last IDP regarding how to fill out an e-resume or long term career planning? Your last question shows a complete lack of understanding about the transfer, assignment and e-resume procesess and you need to have a very long talk with the person doing your IDP and (if different) your Chief.

I hope to dear god you haven't talked to your OSC or OS1 yet. If you have, I feel bad for you.

We seriously need to bring back the third "recommendation" option.

hell, I miss being able to put "Progressing"

That's exactly what I was refering to.

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Originally posted by bgcntry4:
hell, I miss being able to put "Progressing"

That has been discussed at the highest level thoroughly and I do not see it happening! Giving someone a "Progressing" had the exact same affect on eligibility for advancement as a Not Rec did. The P mark is just a way for the Chain of Command to feel better about doing the right thing, in my opinion. If someone should be marked "progressing" then they are not "..satifactorily capable of performing the duties and responsibility of the next higher grade.." which means they should get a N.

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:

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Originally posted by bgcntry4:
hell, I miss being able to put "Progressing"

That has been discussed at the highest level thoroughly and I do not see it happening! Giving someone a "Progressing" had the exact same affect on eligibility for advancement as a Not Rec did. The P mark is just a way for the Chain of Command to feel better about doing the right thing, in my opinion. If someone should be marked "progressing" then they are not "..satifactorily capable of performing the duties and responsibility of the next higher grade.." which means they should get a N.

MC,

Granted you are absolutely right that the P and NR mark are basically one and the same, but leaders are not doing the right thing now-a-days! (not all mind you) They are R even when the individual is still "progressing"

Very true. I don't think poor leaders will become better ones just becuase we give them more choices!

True again, but they may feel "safer" then giving the "N". "Well, I don't want to explain to them why they aren't recommended".... "If I recommend and they advance, then they transfer and are no longer my repsonsibility"...

If one is not ready, then it is up to the team leaders to train and guide. Now if the subordinate doesn't want to try, then by all means, but an NR on their marks. We must be leaders and help those to become future leaders whether we like them as a person or not. I've seen it before were favortism lets those advance even though they were not ready for the next paygrade, and I have seen the opposite (mainly because of personal issues). It is up to us to train, and if the member is not ready, then lets get them ready.

You're preaching to the choir Hector. It's one of my pet peeves. ARG!

The word "trying" is NOWHERE in the section about what an R or a NR means and it is irrelevant! It is black and white, period!

Yes - teaching, training, mentoring and guiding should be being done, but when it comes down to it twice a year, you must make a cold, impersonal decision, R or NR.

It's because there are a bunch of ninny's running around the Coast Guard.

I THINK ITS FUNNY HOW I COME ON HERE AND ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION TO OTHER SECOND CLASS PETTY OFFICERS AND IT GETS TOTALLY BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. WANTING TO KNOW WHERE OTHER SECONDS WANT TO GO, HOW MANY SECONDS AT LAND STATIONS CHOSE CUTTERS, IF ONE USUALLY RECIEVES THEIR TOP BILLET HAS NOTHING TO WITH AN IDP (INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN) I AM ASKING A QUESTION AND FOR AN OPINION BASED ON THE TOPIC. I DO HAVE A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE TRANSFER SEEING HOW ITS MY FIRST TIME TO DO SO, AND I HAVE GAINED INPUT FROM MY CHIEF, BUT OF COURSE SOMEONE NEW COMES HERE AND POSTS A COMMENT OR SHALL I SAY QUESTION AND ONE PERSON DECIDES TO MAKE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT WHAT I HAD TO SAY SO EVERYONE ON HERE JUMPS ON THE BAND WAGON AND STARTS TALKING ABOUT HOW I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN RECOMENDED, YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I AM SO WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO TRASH A SHIPMATE WITH A SIMPLE QUESTION. SEEING HOW MOST OF YOU ARE SENIOR I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A ROLE MODEL TYPE ANSWER INSTEAD OF BEING IMMATURELY BASHED. I WILL PROBABLY NEVER POST ON FREDSPLACE AGAIN SEEING THERES PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WAIT FOR SOMEONE SUCH AS I LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER OR POSITIVE FEEDBACK, BUT YET I HAVE A WHOLE BLOG OF PEOPLE GOING ON ABOUT HOW I AM A HORRIBLE PERFORMER AND HOW MY CHIEF AND OS1 DONT KNOW ANYTHING. THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT AND HELP, I'VE LEARNED ALOT.

Easy gunner........the only thing you are right about is that the question got way off track as they consistently do on here, but if you actually read all of the comments not one person on here said that you or your chief or first were bad performers. This entire second track that your post made is a argument that has been going on since the day that the P was taken off the marks, and that's it.
I am very sorry that no one answered your original question, it happens more often than not but no one here slammed you or your supervisors.
As a recommendation to you, no matter what you are reading always read it carefully so that you do not misconstrue what you are reading.....you don't want to end up with pie in your face because you misinterpreted what you have read.....like now.

Wow, didn't know this was something you need to yell that much about.

To inform and correct you alittle bit, a proper IDP being done has a LOT to do with someone 'usually getting their top pick.' Asking the question in the way you did says a lot about the IDP process between you and your supervisor. The reason you didn't get a direct answer to at least part of your question is you in effect asked "Why is the usually purple and lime green between 1300 and 1345 on the second Tuesday of the month?" You will never get a direct answer to that question becuase the suppositions in the question are inaccurate.

If you want background info from experienced people, here is mine: I have been on four Cutters. I never once got my first pick from my e-resume. Actually, only once, and that was after three cutters in a row, have I got a billet that was ON my e-resume at ALL. Every other transfer, I rcvd orders to a job that wasn't even on the eresume.

What does an IDP have to do with getting your top pick?? Does the detailer see it? Last time I checked who takes the idp for real??

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Last time I checked who takes the idp for real??

ah. Out of the mouth of babes!

You just made our point. If an IDP had been done properly, there would have been a discussion of career and personal goals, long term and short. As a transfer season approaches, the discussion would have been centered around the assignment and transfer process. Part of those would have been centered on the e-resume process and how to choose what to put on your e-resume, based on your Assignment Priority as well as your professional and peronsal goals. Then, and only then would the AO see your e-resume and make a decision on which choice you get. You would already have an understanding of what drives the AOs decision becuase you would have asked those questions of your supervisor DURING the IDP counseling session.

MC

Most of the time the ao is you supevisior. He knows your skills and you weaknesses.