Originally posted by SheepdogA39:
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Posted Mon 14 April 2008 02:29 PM Hide Post
Run away, run away, as fast as you can, they got spinny thingies in Iran.
Here we go again. Big bad Iran is trying to get nukes. This should make us panic very, very much because Iranians are sooooo freakin' stupid and muddled-headed from trying to spell Imanuttajob's name that they're likely to launch - um, launch what, exactly? Do they even have the technology to properly deliver a nuclear weapon? Just asking. Anyhoo - we're worried because they're so stupid they think they can launch one of their half-baked nuclear missiles at Israel and NOT expect an enormous retaliatory strike from Israel and us.
Meanwhile, North Korea has nukes but in spite of their having a leader who makes Imanuttajob look like Joe Sixpack we're willing to sit down and talk and try to make arrangements with them. Of course, Iran sees that having nukes does create a bit of power, and surprise, surprise, they want that negotiating power, too. BFD.
You ridicule what you can't understand. (Big bad Iran precipitating a world disaster of precedented scope).
Let me ask you, what do yo think it takes to properly deliver a nuke? We delivered two with piston engined, propeller driven aircraft using 70 year-old technology.
The pivotal instrument in the destruction of the World Trade Center was a box cutter.
Do you think that when faced with it's imminent destruction (missiles in flight) Israel will confine it's retalition to it's aggressor? Or do you think they will use the next few minutes to remove all possible further threats with their nuclear arsenal? Do you think maybe Damascus and possibly every other Arab/Islamic center of population would be likely additional targets in Israel's dying throes?
One must understand historical patterns and learn to think outside their personal prejudices.
Hitler told us exactly what he intended to do before he did it, only nobody believed him. It was just...crazy. Invade Russia and get rid of the Jews...yeah right.
Ahmadinejad has told us exactly what he intends to do. It's crazy...Destroy Israel and get rid of the Jews...yeah right.
Right? Those who ignore history...
But in answer to your questions:
A. Yes, I do think most western female apologists and sympathizers for Islamic terrorists would definitely stand to benefit from the Hijab.
and...
B. Yes Iran can throw nukes around if they have them.
Shahab-3
Main article: Shahab-3
Shahab-3 was the first Intermediate-range ballistic missile that was built by Iran's military. Its first model, also known as Shahab-3A has a range of 1300km. Soon after Iran came with a new model called Shahab-3B, which has a range of 2000km, and can carry a heavier warhead. Making this missile was a major step in Iran's missile industry, and it opened the way to longer range missiles. Shahab-3D, which followed the Shahab-3C, is Iran's latest Shahab model, which has a range of 2200km.
Jane's Information Group said in 2006 that Iran had six operational Shahab-3 brigades, the first of which was established in July 2003. They said that the six brigades were mainly equipped with standard variants, but with others described as enhanced Shahab-3 variants, with ranges of 1300-km, 1500-km and 2000-km respectively.[10] Anthony Cordesman at the Center for Strategic and International Studies however said only in August 2007 that 'the air force of the IRGC is believed to operate Iran’s three Shahab-3 intermediate-range ballistic missiles units' while noting that their actual operational status remains uncertain.[11]
Ghadr-110
Main article: Ghadr-110
The Ghadr-110 is an medium-range ballistic missile designed and developed by Iran. The missile has a range of 2,500[12] to 3,000 km.[13] and so is the longest range Iranian missile.
It is believed to be an improved version of the Shahab-3, also known as the Ghadr-101. It it has a liquid-fuel first stage and a solid-fuel second stage, which allowes it to have a range of 2,500 km.[13] It has a higher maneuverability tan the Shahab-3 and a set-up time of 30 minutes which is shorter than that of the Shahab-3 (believed to have a set-up time of several hours)
Solid fuel program The foundations for this were laid with the Oghab and Shahin-II missiles. These would lead the way for a number of other rocket artillery systems including Fajr, Nazeat, and Zelzal. The initial effort in this area relied heavily on technical help from the People's Republic of China in the form of assembly and manufacturing contracts during 1991 and 1992. Iran was quick to surpass the Chinese level of assistance and became self sufficient.
Liquid fuel program After the war, Iran's experience of liquid fuel missiles had purely focused on the reverse engineering of Scud-B missiles. However, with the post war reorganisation the focus of the effort quickly changed and focused on assembly and maintenance. A domestic version of the Scud-B, known as Shahab-1, was developed and manufactured. This led to its successor the Shahab-2, a variant of the Scud-C, and finally the Shahab-3. All these programs relied heavily on Russian and North Korean assistance. In recent years, Iranians developed multi-stage Shahab-4(now apparently shelved), Shahab-5 and Shahab-6, which are derivations of North Korean Taepodong. Iranian engineers participated in the North Korean Taepodong-2 missile launch on July 4th, 2006.[
YYYYYIIIPPPPEEEESSSS!!!! It's Ackmawuzzizzface! They got spinning thinggies! Biiiiggggg Spinning Thinggies! Bombs! They got Bombs! They're going to blow up the Middle East! Holy Toledo! They're going to bomb Toledo! Sound the alarm! Sound the sirens! Alarm the sirens! Scramble your eggs! Flip your lids! The Iranians are coming! The Iranians are coming!
Seriously, I do get your point. However, I think you're simplefying the issue too much. Nukes are more than weapons: They're status, influence, a chip in the big game. Iran is a country desperate for real recognition in the world stage, and they feel nukes are the way to get it. As stated earlier, it worked for N. Korea.
