You post your story on this fourm, and show why we should think any of this is legit... I see you have now changed the profile of one of your many.

Care to explain, to everyone.

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Awful lot of Army decorations.

A 30 year 1stSgt! Damn, I'll bet even the SgtMaj's didn't mess with him.

Are we allowed to call a SgtMaj Top now? I was just checking..............

Did we have like 5 Fridays in a row?

Semper Fi

Johnny Blaze

Wow the colder it gets the more they come out of the wood work. Great for entertaiment value though.

A Marine with a Bronze Star, but not a CAR? I'll throw the BS flag on his Viet Nam serice medals/ribbons too. My Dad was there three different times, and he doesn't have that many.

30 years and not even a Marine Good Conduct?Hell i was a turd and i have one....BS 2 times.and a Army reserve componits achievement medal?armed forces reserve medal.Well after this i'm gonna go give myself some good ribbons also....

Something's fishy!

• I sent an email to FromTheTop's email on mil.com
  
• I got a reply, saying he was former Marine and retired Army
  
• I also got a copy of a couple of DD-214s, with a different first name. One with Army reference, the other with Marine reference. Not sure what to make of the 2nd.
  
• I also got an excuse for the different first name. The person in the emails, did say they were using the alternate first name, which matches the profile name.
  
• DD-214s did reference Army and Marines and with those awards AND CAR, etc
  
• However, all the replies were from a different return email. I sent to one email, the replies came from a different email
  
• On a hunch, I searched for that 2nd email. Guess what? I found the same person (based on name in the email), with an older ID saying he was "Marine Corps/Considering Joining"

My gut feel is this Wannabe, found his dad's or grandfather's DD-214 and disrespected him by creating both IDs. The Wannabe ID came first followed a month later by the 2nd.

I can say with 100% certainty that "this" FromTheTop, using that profile name, does not exist, with that name. There is a legit person out there, for that DD-214 but NOT this poster.

Interestingly there are a couple of profiles by this same person.

marcusdevildog

FromTheTop

And this profile may be of the person who's DD-214 was sent.

This is the Person (MSGLEVI) who best matches the DD-214, based on name, location and email alone.

I'm going to email the latter to see if he knows a Jason, who might have access to his DD-214.

All accounts created were from Alabama, as stated in their profile. I'm thinking we have a relative that is posing as someone who did serve.

It will be interesting to see if any of these people show up to reply.

Not to step on any toes and i totally understand all your feelings etc... But what id like to see is if people are going to go on the boards and post derogatory stuff at fellow veterans they best be ready to swallow their pride and give a big explanation to not only the service member they called out but one to that mans/womens family etc on these boards.You have to remember alotta peeps are computer illiterate these days especially peeps like me etc.And people make mistakes very easily here i am one. I think we as marines should give a member time to defend themselfs before anyone goes jumping on a band wagon to run a good person down till we have facts. Put yourself in these shoes if you were in front of a judge for murder and you knowingly knew you were innocent would you want that judge deciding your case on facts or perception and hearsay. Lil food for thought. I don't like posers or liars etc. But to me as a man and Marine i will give anyone the benefit of the doubt otherwise i have put myself in a class of people i care not to be around or like so please get your facts inline and make sure your ready to accept responsability for your actions, Because truth is something we all seek. But lies,deciet,propaganda and manipulation are very easily found today.So be cautious all because the last thing you wanna do is embarrass and humiliate some service member and his family for something he has not done. To talk to someone is hearing that mans story to read a mans story is nothing but perception on what we percieved it to be.

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I think we as marines should give a member time to defend themselfs before anyone goes jumping on a band wagon to run a good person down till we have facts.

That is the point of this thread... to let him clear this up.

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Put yourself in these shoes if you were in front of a judge for murder and you knowingly knew you were innocent would you want that judge deciding your case on facts or perception and hearsay. Lil food for thought.

No hearsay here... direct communications and his own words.

This person does have the chance to defend hisself. I have had a 6 - 8 email exchanges with him...

• he knows of this thread... (I sent it to him)
  
• the knows of the profile issue... (I sent it to him and he replied that he understands it's bogus). His exact reply was, " I recognised immediately the rack is bogus from every standpoint and I completely agree with you"
  
• he has been given the opportunity to respond, here and now

If James is the legitimate owner of the decorations posted on Jason's page, Jason needs to be held to task. At a minimum, Jason has some explaining to do.

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Originally posted by SCMerle:
If James is the legitimate owner of the decorations posted on Jason's page, Jason needs to be held to task. At a minimum, Jason has some explaining to do.

Indeed! That is the point. James is the receptient of those awards, based on the DD-214.

The person I'm in contact with still says his name is Jason and his email matches that, and it's the same one that claimed to be "Marine Corps/Considering joining" prior to creating that account.

I have contacted James, to see if he can shed some light upon this. The problem is this guy, in the DD-214 is about 70 years old. That doesn't even fit the photo in the last profile, unless it's an old photo. I have some old photos that make me look young too.

PS: The CAR and Good Conduct are on the DD-214

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Just so you all know im not putting any of you down because i totally understand where your coming from but there will be others that join the post then sooner or later bam somebodys insulting someone.I just went thru this over a post i made and next i know guys telling me go to socnet and there it is i have guys putting me down telling me im a liar and the list goes on needless to say i have my facts straight i called everyone of em on it and as of this moment the only guys i have any kinda respect for is deep recon and gyirwin on this site because some of the others on that site have yet to say jack and one of em is going outta his way to create more drama. So hopefully none of you take this personal this is hopefully to deter what i just went thru.

For what it's worth - the profile states, "1stSgt of Marines...".

There is no Marine, active or retired, that has that last name and a first name that begins with "J". So, even if he did a few years in the Corps and then shipped over to the Army, it's misleading to state "1stSgt of Marines" when he is not, and never has been.

Either a partial poser, or a full poser...still a poser.

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"1stSgt of Marines" when he is not, and never has been.

He very specifically says he was "promoted to 1st Sgt of Marines" after 1971. According to the very lengthy history of where he's been, he's been

• Corporal of Marines
  
• Sgt of Marines
  
• SSgt of Marines
  
• 1st Sgt of Marines

He seems to like that "of Marines". He uses that terminology everywhere, almost like he's posting from a biography. He has more details than one normally rattles off.

According to what he sent me (not from DD-214), he served in the Marines from 1955 to 1982, before going into the Army and retiring as MSG, U.S. Army, in 1986.

What concerns me is the person Jason using it as his and the fact that this Jason has previously signed up as "Marine Corps/Considering Joining" leading me to believe he may be using his dad's or grandfather's DD-214.

Just so you all know i was kinda skimming the posts without doing any research on the complaint and like i said nothing personal if you wanna see why i posted go to socnet read recon marines andi have two post there one is bored doing a check on me the other i posted you will see why i posted what i did and like i said nuttin towards you gents but more for the fools that will jump on the band wagon without any knowledge etc.

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Just so you all know i was kinda skimming spamming the posts

Fixed it for you. This thread is about this issue; not your issue.

In one of his replies he said point blank, "I recognised immediately the rack is bogus from every standpoint and I completely agree with you"

Which is an odd thing to say, since those decorations are in the DD-214, just not with his name. So this isn't a witch hunt.

Some explaining is necessary.

LOL i stand corrected as you are very correct my apoligies and hopefully they are accepted.

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he served in the Marines from 1955 to 1982, before going into the Army and retiring as MSG, U.S. Army, in 1986.

So, approx 27 years as a Marine. Since that is well in excess of that needed for retirement, I have to assume he retired - or more correctly, transferred to the Fleet Marine Corps Reserve (enlisted personnel do not formally "retire" until the 30-yr mark. Anything prior to that, is a transfer to the FMCR).

I believe it is illegal and contrary to U.S. Code for a mbr in the reserve of one military branch (even the FMCR), to enlist in another branch, since they are subject to recall to the branch that pays them a monthly retainer, or pension.

So, the statement that he served in the Marine Corps for approx 27 years, and then enlisted in the Army is B.S.

Still a poser.

Look at the hanky panky Larry Gugle did with his dd-214 and srb. You have to call these lame pukes out or the Larry Gugles of the world will pop up all over the place...

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Originally posted by TomHansen:
Look at the hanky panky Larry Gugle did with his dd-214 and srb. You have to call these lame pukes out or the Larry Gugles of the world will pop up all over the place...

Isn't that the truth. Looks like they'e trying to put some more teeth into the Stolen Valor Act because of it too.