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Now that would throw the ball in the mods court and they would be responsible for verifying everyone that applies etc.
And lets say they do that and the Marine is then required to post what units etc based on his info he sent in. Seems to me to be a pretty simple fix instead of letting go on what has gone on I assume since this site has began. I know this if we were all still active and a Marine called out a man with any kinda valor awards etc and called him a poser on base etc. First his arse would get handed to him and then the higher ups would def let the shiitee roll down hill. Seen it first hand when I entered my first unit 2/8 most guys were from beirut and getting ready to eas etc. There is no need for putting a man that has paid his dues thru the ringer and humiliating him or his family in front of all to see. I find that to be an act of cowardness and people like that need to be ****** slapped. Thats my opinion but there are many times I have seen on this site that things coulda been handled proffesionally and maturely. I think maybe some people that are here noone in particular have let things get to their head and let it swell and ran with it. Its time things change and save face either you mods step up and deal with it if possible or the what I will call bullies man up and be a real man and handle things behind closed doors. Then once the facts are in heck have at it but until then this bs needs to stop its sickening,embarrassing,humiliating and worst of all putting down another brother that served his time in many cases. I can say this if any of you came to my house and pulled that crap or any of my brothers houses and did it in front of their families you would be lucky to leave with your life and Im sure you all agree if it was you in the crossfire. If you see something that just is not jiving well pm them ask them to stop posting until their checked out etc its not that difficult to do. And im sure they would be happy to stop and clear it all up! Lets quit disgracing each other like this its foolish and hey if we find a poser thru it all its simple they get banned and a rash o shiite on their way out. Hope I get thru to some of you that have put yourself on a pedastal etc because trust me life is to short for one and two I wont stand back and watch it go on any longer. If this does not pertain to you move along if you have a problem step up!! Semper Fi |
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MODERATOR, MARINE FORUMS I'm innocent! I'm the John Boy.......  |
Steve, I hurt to bad to argue with ya, but who might you be talking about? The latest one I know about was not the work of one mod, web site, nor members of no less than 3 sites. Semper Fi John If you're gonna shoot, shoot! Don't Talk. |
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Its the big picture Im talking bout no reason to argue was not calling anyone out and this really has nothing to do with any of the mods it has to do with RESPECT is all.
All I am hoping is to get feedback and some of the people that like to do stupid crap take a step back and maybe think before they act or actually handle things like men not children is all. No offense to anyone other than people with a guilty conscience. And I know your not one I hope  |
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More or less the pm system was put into place for many reasons and many people here use it for gossiping etc in their lil clicks hiding behind a wall of protection.
I personally would rather someone say something to me instead of cowardly say it behind closed doors but when it comes to discrediting another Marines service and publicly scrutinizing him or trying to humiliate him without all the facts in thats when the pm system should be used. I have watched it happen here 4 times at least in a few months if not more and outta them 4 one was a poser them arent good odds. So I hope people change their methods is what its all about. Respect is a two way street and noone likes to be disrespected, especially when the accusers are wrong and a Im sorry is not good enough when it comes to putting another Marine down and discrediting him etc when all the facts are not in. Peoples true colors always come out in the end and a poser will always get caught in a matter of time I just find it sickening to watch some of the things said go on without the facts etc. I mean how hard is it to pm someone and ask them to stop posting till they are checked out? |
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I'm a Beruit Marine twice over, the Spring and summer of 81 and Sept and Oct of 83. We left the area a week before they blew up our brothers on the 83 trip. What you are holding back from saying is about how I handled the Books situation. Well get over it. I did not do it as a Moderator, I did it as a Marine who saw a Poser doing what he was doing. The MODF did not ask me to do this nor did they tell me that I could not do this. I did not think for a moment I needed your permission either. You have no idea on what took place over all of this. This was something that anyone of us (Moderator or not) could have done. If you read the Books thread from above you will also see that several Marines where involved with this, not just one. If you go to other web sites you will see that messeages where sent to Books from there as well. Information came from several sources, not just one. For 4 months we have tried to get Books to talk to us about what was being uncovered by sending him messages not only through this web site but through others as well. We did EVERY thing we could to get him to talk to us behind the those doors you talk about. Books choose this route, not us. It was his words on about 10 different points that got him into the spot light, once again it was his words not ours. So quit trying to judge something you have no knowledge of..... Tom Hansen |
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This is not really about you either tom its about the guys like joe carrey for one.
I think you mods may be reading into it to much is all and all I am saying is there is always a better way to deal with things and after what I watched not just him but myself and others go thru needs to stop but ill say joe carrey was the end of the line for me with it. And there was a formumn that was deleted and I thank the mod that did it think it was IPS. Thats what brought all this about not the books deal. So trust me Im not judging you. |
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Don't remember anything about Joe Carrey, I've been a mod about a year now. Mike (Ips) is our boss aka our CO, if Ips wants to delate something he can and not have to explain anything to us. But he usually does. We give all the breathing room here to say what they want, I do believe that we actually get complaiments for the folks in the Pearly Gates. You can make every one happy and we do not delete much. If it's is of a nasty nature we do it on the spot, I have many times. Mike trusts our judgement to where he rarely questions as to why we did something. As to the Carrey thing my giess their was something breaking the rules for it to be deleted. |
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This is news to me. I have no knowledge of anything about Joe Carrey, whoever that is?
For the record, we don't delete anything we just store, store, store it in another location. |
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My personal experience with a poser:
We had one in our MCL detachment. Navy Corpman, SEAL, Force Recon, 6 purple hearts, 2 bronze stars, silver star. I did some homework on this dude and with the help of VERISEAL.ORG,and the POWNETWORK, we found out this dude was full of more $hit than a Christmas Turkey. I filed a grievance with the state judge advocate. Signed my name to it, and put my address and telephone number on the grievance. I did not hide behind a computer screen and remain anonymous during the process. Moral of the story: If you are going to call someone out, stand up like a man, dont hide behind your computer. scroll down to "Carmoney" |
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Ok Im not a Marine! Never have been. All you have to do is read a book or two, talk to some real Marines and listen awhile and you can pass. Just dont go giving yourself the Navy Cross or 6 purple hearts!
However, Recon is right! Give them the benifit of the doubt. They will hang themselves in time. And when they do, just like Dave stand up like a Marine and let the poser know you know and proceed. We have real Heros out there, and I will stand some BS before I disrespect one by mistake. This message has been edited. Last edited by: BootE5, |
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Tom and Shaw, there was a call out by joeamoeao pertaing to Joe Carey and his BS with V. The thread was eventually deleted.
Here is Joe C asking for an apology, which he still hasnt gotten. http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6261946761/m/1180076861001 I do believe this is what reconstan is referring too. I invited him to another forum, where this was brought up, and most of the Vietnam vets say they have seen the award's both ways, "combat V" or "combat distinguishing device". |
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MODERATOR, MARINE FORUMS I'm innocent! I'm the John Boy....... |
Lier!  What happened to Joe C. in the Infanty forum was, IMHO was wrong. In this big old world wide intranet thingie, stories are going to fall apart. When that happens folks will jump on it. Semper Fi John If you're gonna shoot, shoot! Don't Talk. |
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JD..I am a poser! Im a Marine posing to be a Poser, posing as a Marine! I may just decide to promote myself to Top and you, Isp, Shaw and the gang will be in a hurt locker.
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I followed the BS calling out of Joe Carey & by all accounts this mans heroics that resulted in the award is what legends are made of.
The Combat "V" signfifies "Valor" on the battlefield & to question this Marines service due to being ignorant is unsat. Follow is a link to a the 3rd Recon page with those awarded the Bronze Star with "V" in Vietnam: BSV |
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I've hid from nothing, all the time evidence was being gathered we tried to get Books to explain or even prove he was a Marine. He has never responded, just ran from site to site. Lets see what the POW Network comes up with..
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On the subject of medals and awards, I worked a jobn at one point that had a primary focus on medals and awards, so I sought to make myself a duty expert, in as much as I could. What I found out is nothing is written in stone and shiat changed constantly in reguards to awards and who rated what and in what manner. There is a bunch of confusion and a bunch of folks in the military not wearing what they rate, both with to many medals and not enough medals. Quite frankly the system for awards is for cra p, its almost done as an after thought.
example: a lot of VietNam vets wear the Republic of Vietnam Gallentry Cross Medal, but most dont rate the medal, they only rate the ribbon. Medal was for individual award, ribbon was for unit award. Again with the Republic of VietNam Civil Action Ribbon, there is an officer ribbon(with two thin red lines down the middle) and and enlisted ribbon(without the two thin red lines) All I can think when I read some of this crap is, who comes up with a frikken officer vs enlisted ribbon, thats about as gay as it gets, and officers dont need any help getting ribbons and medals(they do a fine job writing each other up without any help) My point is, you never know when calling someone out, nothing is black and white. I imagine 30 years from now someone calling me out when I tell them that I was with 5/14 in Fallujah as an MP. Some dipshiat somewhere will point out that 5/14 is artillery,so how could I be an MP, therefore I must be a fraud, and then I am gonna have to punch in in the mouth, ect. In the case of books, you gents called him out as a fraud and he continues to post as a hero on other websites. not cool. |
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Well 1stSgt I think your BSing about being a Sooner fan! No one could be a Sooner fan and make it through Bootcamp! Poser!
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HA!!! I COULD TELL YOU HOW I MADE IT THROUGH BOOTCAMP IN NORMAN OKLAHOMA( THATS RIGHT IT WAS A SPECIAL SOONER BOOTCAMP FOR OKIES ONLY)
BUT THAT IS ALL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED AND PROBABLY NOT IN MY DD-216(yup 16, two better than the rest of you common folks) I only went to special sooner bootcamp because I am reconartilllery, very secret stuff. I probably shouldnt be talking about it here, opsec you know. |
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I have been reading the comments on this subject, and It has been interesting.
A little background. In 2000, March 17th, I put my dad, Phillip E Carey into Arlington, and with all the fanfare, and all the stories my dad told my brother Dennis and I, I found that I really knew very little about him during the second World War. I know he was in combat, I know he was an FO for Heavy Arty, and he served in the PI Islands with the only Marine units that landed with McArthur, but what units, I really never knew. My dad was a great guy, and he had two sons that both became Marines because of what kind of a man was my dad. My Brother Dennis and I both Served in Vietnam. I with Kilo 3/7, and Dennis with Bravo 1/1 (I think). That was my point, i did not want to die and have my kids scratch their heads and say, he was a great guy and he served, but where? Many of my personal records were lost to fire so long ago, and I really never thought that I would ever have them again, but In 2003, when my last daughter had left my home, I had the time to see what I could do, and the computer as well! I contacted archives, and they forwarded me on to the Awards Branch, and Commandant Hagee reissued all my Certs and awards. They proudly know have center place in my living room, and I stated writing bit and pieces at first, finally things just came to me, and I wrote of the little things that happened, and more. I wrote a collection of my true stories here, and I was jumped on by some idiot that said I was a fake... Yes, I am Joe Carey, and I am not a fake! This man accused me of doctoring my Award, and I told him to turn me into the FBI and allow them to sort it all out, but the guy is getting crazy, and wherever I go he pops up with the same crap. Is there anyone of you gentlemen that can verify a document for me. I mean from Quantico Awards. This old Marine could sure use the help. I can't do it, because it will only seem like a lie to this idiot. You tell a lie about someone often enough, sooner or later it is not a lie any longer. Thank you gentlemen. |
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