Bubba
you are really too stupid to get through Marine Boot.

Get an Education first -then consider joining.

If you don't believe me when I say the computer & or Micro soft, look at this.... REX

http://207.68.164.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=86debe83ea58c705dd5e4f872a54f969&lat=1071565214&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ezorstec%2enet%2fcopperfield%2ehtm

It's always funny....how these folks that slander the US or her current activities selectivley ignore US involvement, directly or indirectly, that has a great deal to do with their current independence...

China for example...boxer rebellion...WWII... forget all about that did we?

I see your point Ret, and there is no doubt you can make reference to world war 2 in that issue, but I don't believe we can with the Boxer Rebellion. That was a war of Chinese Nationalists upset over the westernization of their culture, who in turn attacked westerners, causing us to send forces to protect our interests there. That doesn't really have anything to do with their independence, though, I could be wrong.

As a woemn I think it's a total shame that Afghanistan is adopting an Islamica rule. They can never be democratized this way. Freedom is for all not just the men. I am truly pissed off about the inhumane governing rule.

Woah, whys India part of that list? Is it a evil-doer because it is the World's Biggest Democracy(no joke)? In all reality India has suffered the wrath of Islamic terrorist for quite a while now. Their is no other nation on this earth that has lost more innocent civilians than India. And yet you don't hear anything about Indian terrorist. Cause their arn't any. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to exchange ideas.

and why is Russia on that list.Russia is no longer a threat to us anymore and plus it's a democracy.Simply put it this way,Russias Military days are long over and wont ever be a danger to us.

and why is Russia on that list.Russia is no longer a threat to us anymore and plus it's a democracy.Simply put it this way,Russias Military days are long over and wont ever be a danger to us.

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Woah, whys India part of that list? Is it a evil-doer because it is the World's Biggest Democracy(no joke)? In all reality India has suffered the wrath of Islamic terrorist for quite a while now. Their is no other nation on this earth that has lost more innocent civilians than India. And yet you don't hear anything about Indian terrorist. Cause their arn't any. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to exchange ideas.

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I agree...India is NOT an 'evil-doer'...and you won't find them on my list.

Here's one reason they remain on my 'honorable mention' list...

US Seeks Moscow's Help in Curtailing Weapons Proliferation

(Source: Voice of America news; issued Jan. 28, 2004)

MOSCOW --- The senior U.S. diplomat for arms control, John Bolton, is visiting Moscow this week to urge Russia to join an international alliance of countries working to halt the trade in weapons of mass destruction.

President Bush announced the so-called Proliferation Security Initiative last May. According to U.S. officials, it includes as many as 16 countries in the fight to halt the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Russia is not a participating member of the group, although President Vladimir Putin has said publicly that Russia must do more to combat the spread of such weapons.

During his visit to Moscow, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton is expected to urge Russian officials to join the Proliferation Security Initiative.

But Russia has little to gain in a practical sense from agreeing to such cooperation, says Danil Kobyakov, a senior researcher on nuclear issues with the non-governmental PIR Center for Political Studies in Moscow. "Basically, all the implementation will be carried out by the American side," he said. "So if Russia can gain any concessions ... then that would probably be an advantage."

He said the best the two sides are likely to accomplish during Mr. Bolton's visit is to clarify terms under which Russia would participate in the non-proliferation initiative. He said he expects some progress in the U.S. cooperation with Russia in dealing with North Korea over its nuclear program. Russia is part of a group of countries, which includes the United States, Japan, South Korea and China, which are holding talks with Pyongyang on ending the nuclear program.

The question now, Mr. Kobyakov said, is whether North Korea will be ready to cooperate. "Here, I think much depends on the cooperation between the United States and Russia, as well as China and other countries. But definitely this question will be on the agenda," he said.

Mr. Kobyakov said another issue on top of Mr. Bolton's agenda will be convincing Moscow to continue withholding fuel for Iran's nuclear reactor at Bushehr, which is being built with Moscow's help.

The United States accuses Iran of pursuing a clandestine nuclear-weapons program. Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, and recently signed a protocol to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to give international inspectors greater access to its facilities.

Mr. Bolton is also expected to review the status of implementing the 2002 Strategic Offensive Reduction Treaty, which calls for substantial reductions in the U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear arsenals.

Most words in the APPROVED BY KING JAMES BIBLE were not spoken by Jesus. You people let others put things in your head. That is called BRAIN WASHING & the RUSSIANS were good at it.
anyhow; Check this out,,,,

http://www.arms.ru/

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1. North Korea
2. Iran
3. Syria
4. Saudi Arabia
5. Pakistan
6. Egypt
7. China
8. Libya
9. Myanmar (Burma)
t10.Sudan
t10.Yemen

Honorary mention: France, Cuba, Russia, Malaysia.

Almost two years later...I think the list needs to be adjusted.

1. Iran
2. Syria
3. North Korea
4. Saudi Arabia
5. Myanmar (Burma)
6. Cuba
7. China
8. Venezuela
9. Russia
10. France

Others: Sudan, Libya, Yemen, Belgium

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Originally posted by mpwife1165th:
Napolion - odd you can spell ignorant but fail to spell much easier words. I think perhaps you are pretending to be something you are not. One thing you are clearly is the word you can spell.
Why don't you go away?

maybe my words not very good,cuz this is not my motherlanguage.i learn this kind of sh111t language is bacause of the former british's globle
culture invade.and how many Chinese words u can spell?
if u mean to ameriq,this is the perfect word can descrid u

Yeah, yeah, and if it wasn't for us 'evil' Americans and the British, you would be speaking Japanese right now.

I'm seriously considering moving Russia up into the Top 5 if they continue making weapon sales to despotic regimes like Iran & Syria....not too mention their recent retreat back from the path to full democracy.

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Russia May Reconsider Arms Treaty

(Source: Voice of America news; issued Dec. 7, 2005)

MOSCOW --- Russia's defense minister is warning that Moscow may reconsider its commitment to a key arms control treaty because the United States will be redeploying military units closer to Russia's borders. In his speech Wednesday, the Russian official also brushed aside Western criticism of a major arms deal with Iran.

Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov says U.S. plans to move troops and equipment to Romania and other East European countries Russia may cause Russia to reconsider its commitment to the Conventional Forces in Europe, or CFE Treaty. However, Mr. Ivanov says Russia won't make any decision until it gets more details as to the strength and size of the redeployments.

On Tuesday, during a stop in Bucharest, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice signed a deal to set up U.S. bases in Romania, the first such agreement the United States has signed with a former Warsaw Pact country.

In his speech, Mr. Ivanov said the new agreement amounts to a reconfiguration of the U.S. military in Europe and could violate the CFE treaty, which limits the number of troops and weapons allowed on the continent.

Russia has ratified an amended version of the treaty, but the U.S. and other NATO countries have not, saying that Moscow must first honor its commitment to withdraw forces from ex-Soviet states of Georgia and Moldova.

Russia says it does plan to withdraw from those nations but at its own pace, and the issue should not be linked to ratification of the CFE treaty. The withdrawal issue has long been a source of friction in U.S. - Russian relations.

Mr. Ivanov also brushed aside criticism from both the U.S. and the European Union of Moscow's sale of sophisticated air defense missiles to Iran.

This contract is completely legitimate and will be carried out in line with international law and Russia's obligations, he says, adding that it doesn't matter if others don't like it.

Russian media report that Moscow will sell Iran up to 30 Tor-M1 air defense missile systems in a deal worth close to a billion dollars.

The missiles are capable of bringing down aircraft at low altitudes. Russia says the missiles are only for defensive purposes.

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Russia is definitely going Top 5 now...


NATO: Russia resisting efforts to secure WMD

By Alex Rodriguez
Tribune foreign correspondent
Published December 22, 2005
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MOSCOW -- Russia's reluctance to allow the U.S. access to nuclear and biological weapons sites severely hinders efforts to secure weapons-grade nuclear material and biological pathogens from terrorists and rogue states, according to a new report released by NATO.

The U.S. and other Western governments have poured billions of dollars into safeguarding Russia's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons stockpiles from terrorists and corrupt insiders.

The effort has met with some success; more than 6,500 Russian strategic nuclear warheads have been secured, the country's first chemical-weapons disposal site is working, and three others are under construction, wrote NATO General Rapporteur Pierre Claude Nolin in his report to the organization's Parliamentary Assembly.

`Cold War mind-sets'

However, the Russian government continues to deny U.S. officials access to many nuclear warhead stockpiles, weapons-grade nuclear material storage sites and biological facilities, preventing the U.S. from devising security upgrades, according to the report, released last week.

"Russia's reluctance to allow full access to a number of facilities can only be explained as a relic of Cold War mind-sets," Nolin wrote.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the U.S. and Russia have been working together to safeguard Russia's stockpiles of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the topic at their summit in the Slovakian capital, Bratislava, in February, pledging to "bear a special responsibility for the security of nuclear weapons and fissile material, in order to ensure that there is no possibility such weapons or materials would fall into terrorist hands."

But the summit failed to address Russia's reluctance to grant U.S. inspectors access to sites where nuclear weapons, weapons-grade nuclear material and biological weapons are stored. During the summit, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov flatly stated that "inspections are out of the question."

As a result, security at Russian military sites where plutonium and weapons-grade uranium is stored has yet to be evaluated by American inspection teams, Nolin said. Of the estimated 185 tons of plutonium and 1,100 tons of weapons-grade uranium stored in Russia, only half have received security upgrades.

Defense analysts say weapons-grade nuclear material is highly coveted by terrorists and criminal groups, because amounts as small as 17 pounds of plutonium or 55 pounds of weapons-grade uranium can be used to build a nuclear bomb.

Russian authorities also have been reluctant to allow U.S. inspectors to size up security at many of the country's research laboratories once part of the Soviet Union's vast biological weapons complex, Nolin wrote. At its peak, the program employed more than 60,000 workers at 55 sites that produced a range of weaponized pathogens that cause diseases, including anthrax, smallpox, brucellosis and glanders.

Aware of how lax security is at many former biological weapons sites, Russian authorities worry that U.S. inspections of those sites could produce information leaks that ultimately could help terrorists target those locations, said Vladimir Orlov, a nuclear security expert with the PIR Center, a Moscow think tank.

"The Russian government feels uncertain and vulnerable about its biological complex facilities," Orlov said. "But the [NATO] report is right in saying that Russian authorities haven't put a high enough priority on securing biological sites."

The U.S., Russia and other members of the Group of 8 leading industrialized countries have fared better when it comes to destruction of Russia's stockpile of 40,000 metric tons of chemical weapons--the world's largest. Work has started at a disposal plant in the south-central city of Gorny to destroy mustard gas and lewisite, both blistering agents.

Construction at three other disposal plants has begun, including a facility at Shchuchye that will destroy Russia's vast nerve-gas stockpile. Russia has 32,500 metric tons of sarin, VX and soman nerve gas stored in shells, rockets and bombs at five sites across the country. This disposal plant is expected to go into operation in 2008.

Worrisome question

However, Russia the U.S. and other Western governments have not tackled the question of tactical nuclear weapons, which are worrisome because of their small size and portability, according to the report.

"Tactical nuclear weapons could cause destruction far more severe than the Sept. 11, 2001, assault," Nolin wrote.

Nolin quoted estimates from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists that put the number of tactical nuclear warheads at 3,400, with several thousand more warehoused in reserved or retired status. Last year, Russian authorities said they had destroyed more than half their tactical nuclear weapons but they have not provided any concrete data on the reductions or on numbers of existing tactical nuclear arms, Nolin said. Likewise, the U.S. has not formally declared the number and location of its tactical nuclear weapons.

"Both sides should exchange data on the number of tactical nuclear weapons and the places they are deployed," said Vladimir Dvorkin, a nuclear security expert at the Russian Academy of Sciences' Center for International Security.

Nolin suggested that Russia might be more willing to cooperate if the U.S. and European governments ratcheted up Moscow's involvement in the creation and planning of nuclear security initiatives. In turn, Russia could help its case by assuming a larger share of the cost of nuclear security, he said.

Dvorkin agreed, adding that Russian authorities should devote a portion of windfall oil profits to securing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons sites.

"Russia is acting like a patient, with a lot of doctors hustling around it," Dvorkin said. "The government's decision to allocate $200 million a year is virtually nothing compared to the billions of dollars allocated by the Global Partnership [a G8 coalition aimed at improving nuclear security]. One cannot call this situation a real partnership."

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......But the summit failed to address Russia's reluctance to grant U.S. inspectors access to sites where nuclear weapons, weapons-grade nuclear material and biological weapons are stored. During the summit, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov flatly stated that "inspections are out of the question."
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As a sovereign why should they? Would the USA allow Russian inspectors onto sites where nuclear weapons, weapons-grade nuclear material and biological weapons are stored. It isn't as if the USA hasn't got weapoon grade material missing.

I'm seriously considering moving Russia up into the Top 5 if they continue making weapon sales to despotic regimes like Iran & Syria....not too mention their recent retreat back from the path to full democracy.

Didn't the USA sell weapons to Iraq...an equally despotic regime. And didn't Rumesfield also popped in a couple of times for a chat and a cup of tea with Saddam??

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As a sovereign why should they? Would the USA allow Russian inspectors onto sites where nuclear weapons, weapons-grade nuclear material and biological weapons are stored. It isn't as if the USA hasn't got weapoon grade material missing.

Because we are footing the bill...

"The government's decision to allocate $200 million a year is virtually nothing compared to the billions of dollars allocated by the Global Partnership [a G8 coalition aimed at improving nuclear security]. One cannot call this situation a real partnership."

...if they want to pay 80% of the cost to clean up and secure our WMD then they are more than welcome to inspect our sites.

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Didn't the USA sell weapons to Iraq...an equally despotic regime. And didn't Rumesfield also popped in a couple of times for a chat and a cup of tea with Saddam??

Why don't you join the rest of us in the 21st Century.

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Originally posted by Sgt_Schlappy:

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As a sovereign why should they? Would the USA allow Russian inspectors onto sites where nuclear weapons, weapons-grade nuclear material and biological weapons are stored. It isn't as if the USA hasn't got weapoon grade material missing.

Because we are footing the bill...

"The government's decision to allocate $200 million a year is virtually nothing compared to the billions of dollars allocated by the Global Partnership [a G8 coalition aimed at improving nuclear security]. One cannot call this situation a real partnership."

...if they want to pay 80% of the cost to clean up and secure our WMD then they are more than welcome to inspect our sites.

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Didn't the USA sell weapons to Iraq...an equally despotic regime. And didn't Rumesfield also popped in a couple of times for a chat and a cup of tea with Saddam??

Why don't you join the rest of us in the 21st Century.

I have....

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Originally posted by Sgt_Schlappy:

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As a sovereign why should they? Would the USA allow Russian inspectors onto sites where nuclear weapons, weapons-grade nuclear material and biological weapons are stored. It isn't as if the USA hasn't got weapoon grade material missing.

Because we are footing the bill...

"The government's decision to allocate $200 million a year is virtually nothing compared to the billions of dollars allocated by the Global Partnership [a G8 coalition aimed at improving nuclear security]. One cannot call this situation a real partnership."

...if they want to pay 80% of the cost to clean up and secure our WMD then they are more than welcome to inspect our sites.

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Didn't the USA sell weapons to Iraq...an equally despotic regime. And didn't Rumesfield also popped in a couple of times for a chat and a cup of tea with Saddam??

Why don't you join the rest of us in the 21st Century.

I have...And to I fully expect to see it happen again in the 21st Century.

...[The last straw for Russia]...



Russian legislators OK curbs on NGOs
Bill proposes agency to monitor groups

By Alex Rodriguez
Tribune foreign correspondent
Published December 24, 2005
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MOSCOW -- Russia's lower house of parliament approved a controversial crackdown on the activities of non-governmental organizations Friday, brushing aside widespread concern that the measure would stifle civil society in Russia and marking another regressive milestone in the country's post-Soviet evolution.

The legislation would create an agency to oversee Russia's 400,000 foreign and domestic NGOs and give that agency authority to shut down any NGO perceived to be a threat to Russia's "sovereignty, political independence, territorial integrity, unity, cultural heritage or national interests."

The bill also would give the government the right to shut down individual NGO projects and impose strict controls over the financing of the groups.


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...[China is moving up a notch too]...


China indicts Times aide on spying charge

By Jim Yardley
New York Times News Service
Published December 24, 2005
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BEIJING -- A Chinese researcher for The New York Times was indicted Friday for revealing state secrets to the newspaper and on a lesser charge of fraud, a move that should send the case to trial within six weeks, his lawyer said.

Zhao Yan, 43, who worked in the newspaper's Beijing bureau, has spent 15 months in prison without a hearing. The formal indictment is significant because such a move on state secrets charges is usually tantamount to conviction in China.

Zhao, who had denied the charges, could face a minimum of 10 years in prison.

"For Zhao Yan's colleagues, family and friends, this is deeply disheartening," Executive Editor Bill Keller said. He lobbied China's Foreign Ministry on Zhao's behalf during an October visit to Beijing.

"We've seen no evidence whatsoever that he is guilty of anything but honest journalism," Keller said.

His arrest, part of a broader media crackdown, has brought China widespread international condemnation. This month, President Bush included Zhao on a list of troubling human-rights cases that he handed to Chinese President Hu Jintao during their meeting in Beijing.


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UPDATED LIST

1. Iran
2. Syria
3. North Korea
4. Saudi Arabia
5. Russia
6. China
7. Venezuela
8. Cuba
9. Myanmar (Burma)
10. Sudan

Others: France, Libya, Yemen, Belgium, Zimbabwe