While watching previews of I Am Legend http://iamlegend.warnerbros.com/ you watch a part where U.S. fighter jets blow the Manhatten bridge into the water to prevent a spread of contagion. Even though there are thousands of troops still on the 'island'. This senerio of a man-made contagion is becoming more of a reality with today's news of Japanese scientist removing the 'fear' gene from mice. Here' a link to a main study: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/12/021213062425.htm With 'scientific' advances of gene removal, chemical weapons advancements, it's only a matter of time before terrorist get their hands on something and release it into the population.
The worst case scenerio is the one that will cause the death of all mankind because of mankind and our inability to see beyond our greed and personal interest.

RED DAWN - 2012 June: After three years in the White House, President Hillary Rodham had eliminated two-thirds of the National debt by gutting the U.S. Military following the immediate withdrawl of troops from Iraq and then Afghanistan. Treaties of peace were signed by representatives of Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Venezuela with the Rodham Administration. Euphoria of peace filled the media for three years straight. Several companies from the People's Republic of China were allowed access, trade, and built private property reserves across the Nation. Ford and GM were told by the Rodham Administation to move jobs to the PRC mainland under new trade agreements. The Homeland Security Department was immediately dismantled following the 2009 Inauguration, and the CIA was placed over control of all intelligence agencies as well as the Pentagon. Most of the CIA personnel were replaced with 'trusted' individuals of the Rodham Administration and who displayed the values of the DNC. The U.S. Military was reduced by 50% across the board. The Republican minority could not ever challenge the 70% Democrat majority in any vote. Conservative talk shows were made subject to the re-written Fairness Doctrine and most were taken off the air due to violations of the new 'Doctrine'. The voice of Americans became silent.

RED DAWN - 1984

Soviet Union suffers worst wheat harvest in 55 years.
Labor and food riots in Poland, Soviet troops invade.
Cuba and Nicaragua reach troop strength goals of 500,000. El Salvadore and Honduras fall.
Greens Party gains control of West German Parliment. Demands withdrawl of Nuclear Weapons from European soil.
Mexico plunges into revolution.
NATO disolves. United States stands alone.

RED DAWN - 2012

Republic of China suffers ecological disaster due to no pollution controls, rice fields dry up. Riots break out in every major city. PRC Politburo takes action to save itself by inventing story US spread disease throughout China to destroy the rice.

Chavez rules the new Azteca Empire encompassing Venezuela, Columbia, Bolivia, and Ecuador. Nicaraguan and Mexican leftist governments share power in a new government called Republico de Sandin over all of Central America with the assistance of the PRC who now controls the whole of Panama under a new land-lease contract.

NATO is disolved in 2010 as part of the the Wesly Clark Peace initiative to demonstrate to the Russians and Middle East that the 'new' US desires only peace.

Western Europe breaks out in civil and religious wars during the later part of 2011 as immigrants and Muslim populations swell beyond any control or social co-existance. North Africa becomes a new Islamic State under an Egyptian Al Qaeda cleric wiping away all Algerian and Libyian governments with Sudanese militant army assistance. The rest of Africa falls into chaos from ethnic warfare. The PRC sends in three Army Groups and takes over South and West Central Africa. The Rodham Administation launches diplomatic admonishments in the U.N. The U.S. Ambassador is laughed out of the Forum.

With Western Europe in total chaos, Premire Putin sends hundreds of thousands of troops into Western Europe to quell the violence joined by several divisions of the new Persian Islamic Caliphate to 'keep the peace'.

In April and May of 2012, army groups from the new Azteca Empire and Repubulico de Sandin are transported by large car carriers that lined the Panama Canal from China. They are brought north to Mexico and quietly off loaded in secrecy. Flights of commerical airliners leave the PRC mainland and head into US airspace. On June 6th, members of 'La Raza' that had inflitrated into the U.S. Military and all police forces, power companies, and communication companies, begin killing and sabotaging on a National scale.

Chinese companies that were here under trade status, across the Nation, launch a simualtaneous cyber attack on every U.S. Military and Law Enforcemnt agency and also all air traffic control towers.

At 10am,EST in Washington D.C., muslim terrorist, that had been posing as visiting students and tourist, working with the PRC launch suicide attacks upon every political institution.
At 10:15am, EST, the Army Groups cross the Mexican border into the South West United States.
10: 30am EST, 500 jet airliners containing Chinese shock troops land throughout the Western United States. Additional car carriers and regular PLAAN naval vessels land troops onto Western Canada.

By December of 2012, anything resembling any Western European society in Europe and North America, had been erased from the Globe. The vultures of hate now picked and fought over the pieces.

I think the immigration problem really cause concern . The islamic riot is not really unthinkable nowdays in the west .

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Originally posted by xiajing:
I think the immigration problem really cause concern . The islamic riot is not really unthinkable nowdays in the west .

Illegals pouring into any Nation disrupt the balance of goods and services that sustain a Nation. It also affects the safety and security of that Nation. Islamic riots in the West, that's what is burning in Paris these days, so the unthinkable is now the certainty.

My Red Dawn 2012 is, I admit, a bit off in a predicted date, but I won't go past 2025 for this scenerio to have played out. Our borders are still open as of today.

Pakistan breaks down into chaos following the assination of Benazir Bhutoo. Fanantical forces backed and supported by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Iran's Qud Force gain control of Pakinstan's nuclear weapons. India knowing that nuclear weapons will be used against it's Hindu dominated populace, begin a week long air campaign to take out the Nuclear weapons. Iran, having it's forces already inside of Pakistan, use the attack by India as an excuse to send Iranian divisions into Pakistan to bolster the new hardline Muslim government. Iran sends it's air force along with Pakistan air force planes it's Qud Forces 'took under their protection from the mobs', and begin flying combat missions against India.
Combat begins to esculate as Iran fires missles into India and Iranian/Pakistani forces move across the border into India.
Iran shows international journalist it now has control of most of the Pakistani nuclear weapons and has one set of nulcear armed missles set to launch against New Delhi.
India responds with a massive arial assault on Tehran with it's naval assets in attempt to take out the nuclear threat.
Western intelligence learns of impending nuclear launch by Iran. U.S. Air Force and Naval jets launch strikes at Iran's nuclear weapons and missle sites.
With Iran's hardline government on the verge of collaspe, Russia's Putin orders Russian Air Forces and air borne infantry into Iran to protect the hard line Iranian government.
Iranian and Pakistani forces on the ground in India continue to assault into India as thousands of new Pakistani 'volunteers' surge into India.
Russia warns the U.S. to stay out of any further combat between Iran, Pakistan, and India. Russia begins to flood the Ira-Pak forces with fresh combat and non-combat supplies. A Russian Naval fleet heads into the Indian Ocean, soon after India's Aircraft carrier Viraat is sunk at sea by torpedoes from unknown submarine. Iran soon after claims responsiblity.
U.S. Naval forces begin moving into the Indian Ocean at the request of the Indian Government.
A Russian submarine makes a brazen run into the U.S. Battle Group, it is quickly sunk.
Russian, Ira-Pak air forces launch attacks against U.S. facilities throughtout the Gulf States, Saudia Arabia, and Iraq. Syrian Air Forces launch a blitz strike against Tel Aviv, Israel responds with an overwhelming air power and destroys Syria's Air Forces and most command bases.
India launches large ground offensive to retake it's territory.
United Nations Assembly calls for halt to all hostilities. Putin sends more forces into Iran, U.S. Battle Groups leave from the U.S. and steam towards the Indian Ocean.
Egypt launches a military strike against Israel and Hamas and Hezbollah strike civilian targets in Israel.
The United Kingdom sends it's Naval Fleet to the Middle East along with France and Germany. EuroCorps is activated and moved into Eastern Germany. Poland and the Scandanavian countries put their military on full alert to assist against any Russian offensive into Europe.
I don't see any happy ending to this one...

How fast chaos can take a country down is evidence from what has happened the past four days in Kenya, one of the most prosperous and stable countries in Africa. Any scenerio played out in Pentagon, gamers, or my own scenerios: Kenya is a real life situation to study and learn from.

NAIROBI, Kenya —

A mob torched a church sheltering hundreds of people fleeing election violence Tuesday, killing up to 50 people — including many children — as four days of rioting and ethnic clashes marked one of the darkest times in Kenya's history.

President Mwai Kibaki, sworn in Sunday after a vote opponents said was rigged, said political parties should meet immediately and publicly call for calm. The violence has killed at least 270 people in what had been east Africa's most stable and prosperous democracy. The opposition candidate, Raila Odinga, said he would refuse to meet.

Playd to mutch fortress america latly?

It is a flaw in your scenario, meny doubtful country/organizations whant primarely strengthen ther own power, not risk everything in a grand crusade agenst US.

Look at the Balkanwars/Osmanska was, all pray on the weak, but then they start to fight agenst each other over the spoil.

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Originally posted by a77:
Playd to mutch fortress america latly?

It is a flaw in your scenario, meny doubtful country/organizations whant primarely strengthen ther own power, not risk everything in a grand crusade agenst US.

Look at the Balkanwars/Osmanska was, all pray on the weak, but then they start to fight agenst each other over the spoil.

Truth: only 'game' I play is Call To Duty. I read a few weeks ago, Bosnia was about to boil over again with the Croat majority moving against the minority Serb populace. You're catching on when the spoils are fought over. Which is why in a world wide scenerio, a major break up of the United States will follow a huge grasp for land and it's resources, technology left behind, mass murders of mainly caucasion Americans due to blind hypocritical and discriminatory excuses. Why does Russia, with so much to gain from being a friend to the United States, instead, join and support Iran? It's going to be unions such as these that come to the shores of the USA to pick the bones of this Nation.

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Why does Russia, with so much to gain from being a friend to the United States, instead, join and support Iran?

Capitalism, the best of two worlds, selling oil to US and misiles to Iran....

How do it com that US who clame suport freedom and all that stuff, suport the democraty in Iraq but suport the dictatorship in Saudia Arabia....

Venezuela - 2008 - summer. Since the collaspe of his major socialist reform movement, Hugo Chavez embarks upon a 'new revolution' movement. With the aid of Iranian QUD's special forces, Venezuelan forces cross into Columbia with an alliance with FARC.
Bogata awakens to thunderous explosions as the police stations and military barracks are blown up by sappers. Radio and TV stations are seized by FARC militia, the Presidental Palace and Congress buildings are seized. Columbian military generals are shot or captured at their homes in a mass coordinated assualt.
By noon, messages are being aired that the New Revolutionary Government of Columbia has freed Columbia from the American puppet government. Hugo Chavez flies to Columbia to announce the beginning of the new Socialist States of South America(Estados socialistas de Suramérica- ESSA). Ecuador joins publicly by annoucement an hour later.
Within days, dozens of Columbian politicans, police and military officers, judges are shot by firing squads of FARC. Iran establishes a military base at Turbo, Columbia.
Panamanian Government officials appeal to the People's Republic of China to help protect the Panamanian Canal which they control. PLAAN vessels sail from China to Panama to counter the Iranian military presence.
Remnents of Columbian military not seized by FARC still controls the area around Mitu, along with thousands of Columbian refugees. Venezuela and Ecuadorian troops begin moving forces in their direction. Brazil moves several battalions to the border with Columbia in response and request by the Columbian Military, then cross into Columbia to assist Columbia and stop Chavez's ultimate goal of controlling all of South America.
Three day battle ensue's with devestating loses to Chavez's/FARC forces. Bogata is retaken by Columbian military. Iranian military personnel slip away at night and return to their large base inside Venezuela.
China announces it's Naval vessels will remain to protect the canal from any future threats.
Ecadorian military and civilians stage a revolt against the pro-Chavez governement and seize power. Brazilian Air Forces make day light bombing runs on Venezuela military bases and the Iranian base southwest of Caracus.
Following three days of total chaos in Venezuela, former military officers purged by Chavez and anti-Chavez civilians revolt and supported by Brazil and other South American countries. Chavez flees to Cuba as his government crumbles. Enroute to Cuba, Chavez's air plane crashes mysteriously into the Caribbean Sea.
Democracy is celebrated across South America, Brazil is hailed as hero to freedom.
FARC inside of Columbia is reduced to common banditry as the people turn members over to the new government as retaliation to the mass murders of Columbia's government.

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How do it com that US who clame suport freedom and all that stuff, suport the democraty in Iraq but suport the dictatorship in Saudia Arabia....

Is this a serious question??

We need their oil or our country will collapse.

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Pakistan breaks down into chaos following the assination of Benazir Bhutoo. Fanantical forces backed and supported by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Iran's Qud Force gain control of Pakinstan's nuclear weapons. India knowing that nuclear weapons will be used against it's Hindu dominated populace, begin a week long air campaign to take out the Nuclear weapons. Iran, having it's forces already inside of Pakistan, use the attack by India as an excuse to send Iranian divisions into Pakistan to bolster the new hardline Muslim government. Iran sends it's air force along with Pakistan air force planes it's Qud Forces 'took under their protection from the mobs', and begin flying combat missions against India.
Combat begins to esculate as Iran fires missles into India and Iranian/Pakistani forces move across the border into India.
Iran shows international journalist it now has control of most of the Pakistani nuclear weapons and has one set of nulcear armed missles set to launch against New Delhi.
India responds with a massive arial assault on Tehran with it's naval assets in attempt to take out the nuclear threat.
Western intelligence learns of impending nuclear launch by Iran. U.S. Air Force and Naval jets launch strikes at Iran's nuclear weapons and missle sites.
With Iran's hardline government on the verge of collaspe, Russia's Putin orders Russian Air Forces and air borne infantry into Iran to protect the hard line Iranian government.
Iranian and Pakistani forces on the ground in India continue to assault into India as thousands of new Pakistani 'volunteers' surge into India.
Russia warns the U.S. to stay out of any further combat between Iran, Pakistan, and India. Russia begins to flood the Ira-Pak forces with fresh combat and non-combat supplies. A Russian Naval fleet heads into the Indian Ocean, soon after India's Aircraft carrier Viraat is sunk at sea by torpedoes from unknown submarine. Iran soon after claims responsiblity.
U.S. Naval forces begin moving into the Indian Ocean at the request of the Indian Government.
A Russian submarine makes a brazen run into the U.S. Battle Group, it is quickly sunk.
Russian, Ira-Pak air forces launch attacks against U.S. facilities throughtout the Gulf States, Saudia Arabia, and Iraq. Syrian Air Forces launch a blitz strike against Tel Aviv, Israel responds with an overwhelming air power and destroys Syria's Air Forces and most command bases.
India launches large ground offensive to retake it's territory.
United Nations Assembly calls for halt to all hostilities. Putin sends more forces into Iran, U.S. Battle Groups leave from the U.S. and steam towards the Indian Ocean.
Egypt launches a military strike against Israel and Hamas and Hezbollah strike civilian targets in Israel.
The United Kingdom sends it's Naval Fleet to the Middle East along with France and Germany. EuroCorps is activated and moved into Eastern Germany. Poland and the Scandanavian countries put their military on full alert to assist against any Russian offensive into Europe.
I don't see any happy ending to this one...

i think you did a good job thinking up this one but why would cyria randomly attack isreal in the middle of all that?

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Originally posted by Third_Armored:
i think you did a good job thinking up this one but why would cyria randomly attack isreal in the middle of all that?

Is this a hypothetical scenario deal, with some hypothetical countries?
Where is cyria and isreal?

Or do you really mean Syria and Israel?

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Originally posted by Third_Armored:
i think you did a good job thinking up this one but why would cyria randomly attack isreal in the middle of all that?

Is this a hypothetical scenario deal, with some hypothetical countries?
Where is cyria and isreal?

Or do you really mean Syria and Israel?

All right troops, let's be civil here, we're just trying to have a discussion, not a school yard mine is better banter.
Syria would attack Israel because of Iran's initial success and because Iran told them to do it. Syria already has in real life, redeployed much of it's forces into a highly defensive posture mainly around Damascus, while also conduct, organized, supply, and train another Hizballah type militia along the Golan Heights. Bashar al-Asad and his cronies are smart enough to put a militia out in front of his regular forces to take the brunt of any Israeli air-ground offensive.
The ol' man Asad was smart and strong enough to run Syria on his own, his son is not, which is why the Iranians pull the strings on him and are and will use Syria as cannon fodder in any regional conflict with Israel or any other of their neighbors.

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Originally posted by xiajing:
I think the immigration problem really cause concern . The islamic riot is not really unthinkable nowdays in the west .

One person once told me "thousands of people walking down Los Angeles waving Mexican flags looks like more of a threat than Al Queada will ever be"

BJ my man, your living in a fantasy world and you need to wake up quick....1st off hilary wont get elected, it will be mccain(the best qualified) 2nd al queda aint signing no peace treaty this is why the democrats cant be elected, pull out the troops immediately then they will come over here, Bj wake up man, i hope your post was just for a laugh because thats what i did, if your joking my bad, if your not you have problems

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Originally posted by 16476857:
BJ my man, your living in a fantasy world and you need to wake up quick....1st off hilary wont get elected, it will be mccain(the best qualified) 2nd al queda aint signing no peace treaty this is why the democrats cant be elected, pull out the troops immediately then they will come over here, Bj wake up man, i hope your post was just for a laugh because thats what i did, if your joking my bad, if your not you have problems

Dude...I don't have problems.....I have issues..... ........wahka wahka....

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Venezuela - 2008 - summer. Since the collaspe of his major socialist reform movement, Hugo Chavez embarks upon a 'new revolution' movement. With the aid of Iranian QUD's special forces, Venezuelan forces cross into Columbia with an alliance with FARC........

From a news flash story this evening:

Chavez: Colombia plans 'aggression' By JORGE RUEDA, Associated Press Writer
31 minutes ago



President Hugo Chavez on Friday accused neighboring Colombia and the United States of plotting a military "aggression" against Venezuela.
"I accuse the government of Colombia of devising a conspiracy, acting as a pawn of the U.S. empire, of devising a military provocation against Venezuela," Chavez said.
"A military aggression is being prepared," Chavez added, saying that Washington aims to "oblige us to respond, and later a war could be set off."
He cited intelligence reports but did not offer evidence to support his claim.
Venezuela and Colombia have been locked in a diplomatic crisis since November, when Colombian President Alvaro Uribe ended Chavez's mediation role with Colombia's leftist rebels in seeking a hostages-for-prisoners swap.
Chavez warned Colombia not to attempt a "provocation," warning that it would trigger a decision by Venezuela to cut off all oil exports.
"In that scenario, write it down: the price of oil would reach $300, because there wouldn't be oil for anyone," Chavez said. "The invaders would have to step over our dead bodies."
Chavez has repeatedly accused Washington of plotting to oust or kill him, though it was the first time he has accused Colombia's U.S.-allied government in such strident terms.
He spoke as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was in Colombia, saying she and two other senior American officials who have visited Bogota recently "came to attack Venezuela" in their remarks. Rice did not mention Chavez during her earlier public statements in Colombia.
Cesar Mauricio Velasquez, spokesman for Uribe, said his government had no immediate comment.
The trouble between the two countries began in November, when Uribe accused Chavez of overstepping his authority by directly contacting Colombia's army chief while trying to broker the prisoner swap.
Chavez responded by freezing contacts with Uribe and calling home the Venezuelan ambassador in Bogota for consultations. That ambassador has yet to return.
Chavez has continued his contacts with the rebels, though, and earlier this month the largest guerrilla group freed two Colombian women held captive for years to Venezuelan officials.
The Colombian government later reacted with outrage when Chavez urged world leaders to stop classifying the rebels as terrorists.
Chavez said he expects relations with Colombia, which he and Uribe once managed to maintain cordial, "are going to continue deteriorating," predicting that it will hurt cross-border trade.
The tensions have been heightened by Colombian allegations that Chavez's government provides refuge to leftist rebels — which Chavez denies.
Chavez urged Uribe "to tie up his madmen, because he has some madmen loose (in his administration) and he's the one who is responsible."
Chavez said the United States and the Colombian government "don't want peace in Colombia because it's the perfect excuse to have thousands of soldiers there, the CIA, military bases, spy planes and who knows what other trash operations against Venezuela."
The Venezuelan leader, a close ally of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, sa