WAT IS THE OPINION OF THE M-14 SOCOMII? CAN IT REPLACE THE M-4 AS AN SF WEAPON? GIVE AN IDEA OF UR PREFERENCES.

I think a more appropriate place to post this question is over in the USASOC forum.

Good luck!

No it cannot replace the newer model M-4. The SOCOM is too heavey. And it would also cause a hugh and expensive ammo change out from .223 to .308 cal.

SOCOM has already chosen a replacement weapon:
The FN SCAR. The weapon can be rechamber between 5.56 and 7.62 in about 20 minutes, and is compatible with all existing ammunition, rail accessories, and magazine types.
How it works, don't ask because I don't know.

I THINK THE NEWER SOCOM II IS ONE HELLUVA WEAPON. POWERFUL, ACCURATE, OPERATES IN ALL KINDS OF WEATHER. THE NEW SOCOM IS AN IDEAL WEAPON FOR SPEC,OPS, TO INFANTRY. 7.62 IS A POWEREFUL KICK TOO!!

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Originally posted by Sgt_Schlappy:
I think a more appropriate place to post this question is over in the USASOC forum.

Good luck!

STOPPING POWER IS THE KEY HERE

FN SCAR everything i looked up regarding the M14 socom 2 just shows an upgraded M14.

YES, THE SCAR IS HERE TO STAY. ITS VERSATILE, CAN CHANGE BARRELS, AMMO. I WAS READING FROM WAT WAS SAID HERE. GOOD CALL GUYS

THIS is the top 10 battle rifles according to military.com TV show. get ready for this...#10M-14, #9STURMWEGHER, #8springfield 1903 #7STEYR AUG, #6MAUSER98K, #5FN-FAL, #4M-1GARAND, #3LEE-ENFIELD, #2M-16A2 #1AK-47....THAT IS ACCORDING TO THIER FORMULA. OH WELL.....

i saw a show about artillery. this new cannon is only 20 tons, half that of PALADIN, AND THE WASTE OF MONEY CRUSADER. it is loaded auto, adjusts fire itself, so many things i can't recall...but its called ENLOS. fits on a C-130, BET you can fit 2 or 3 on a c-5. SAY NO TO CRUSADER! its our tax money....

If they could reduce the weight of that rifle, it may be a weapon of choice for some missions. a folding stock? semi, burst, full auto? they need to keep re-working it. m-14 socomII, still my choice for DMR.

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Originally posted by 9514735:
THIS is the top 10 battle rifles according to military.com TV show. get ready for this...#10M-14, #9STURMWEGHER, #8springfield 1903 #7STEYR AUG, #6MAUSER98K, #5FN-FAL, #4M-1GARAND, #3LEE-ENFIELD, #2M-16A2 #1AK-47....THAT IS ACCORDING TO THIER FORMULA. OH WELL.....

the Ak first and best OMG it should not be on the list in teh first place. It is big, heavy, lots of recoil, and to take the safty off you must take your finger off the trigger wasting the seconds were it matters. I see the M4 as far better to the peice of crap known as the Ak47. It is tough and it can go though hell and still fire, but there are more things than just that to consider in a military rifle.

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Originally posted by 22lr:

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Originally posted by 9514735:
THIS is the top 10 battle rifles according to military.com TV show. get ready for this...#10M-14, #9STURMWEGHER, #8springfield 1903 #7STEYR AUG, #6MAUSER98K, #5FN-FAL, #4M-1GARAND, #3LEE-ENFIELD, #2M-16A2 #1AK-47....THAT IS ACCORDING TO THIER FORMULA. OH WELL.....

the Ak first and best OMG it should not be on the list in teh first place. It is big, heavy, lots of recoil, and to take the safty off you must take your finger off the trigger wasting the seconds were it matters. I see the M4 as far better to the peice of crap known as the Ak47. It is tough and it can go though hell and still fire, but there are more things than just that to consider in a military rifle.

i saw that show and according to thier "formula", the AK came out #1. i really don't agree either, but i think the AK'S reliability to fire after abusing it put it over the top. maybe that should be a new topic "TOP 10 RIFLES". I think the M-16 is a soldiers rifle. accurate, lite, with pic rails you can swap out things to fit the mission. the AK? its for a conscript army and terrorists that don't know jack about weapons. its just very reliable. it was a collaboration between the russian and a german named Schmiesser. if you look at the MP-44 Sturmgewer and the AK, they look very similar. i really wish we had a top 10 rifle topic.

My thing is I hear so much about the US should just buy AK-47s and end the trouble with the M-16s. fact is the m-16 is a far better weapon for combat. Also something I forgot to mention, there is a reason why there are no AK-47 combat sniper rifles out there, and for the same reason why the M-16/ar-15 is on of the most used of all semi Auto rifles in the Combat sniper role (the M1 is the only real competition, at least on todays battlefield).

besides the M-16 being used as a DMR, the M-14 has made a comeback. the M-14 is perfect for this role. some Army units use the SR-25, but i think the Marines are using the M-14 more. i think every sqaud should have 1 or 2. i bet some of those WW2 weapons would come in handy today. i bet a Thompson would come in real handy when clearing rooms.

Bushmaster has a 6.8mm modeled after the M-4. SIG is selling an asssault rifle for civ. use also.

6.5mm rd, it's the future.

has anyone seen a SIG assault rifle in a firearms shop? has anyone brought one?

has anyone purchased a Bersa pistol? they issue them to the Argentine military. has anyone had any experience with thier products?

how about the Czech pistols? CZ-100 etc.?