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While Japan is so much cleaner...Using up other people's resources, killing whales for research and with one of the highest rates of suicide.

Nice Wink
Japan is clean becasue people are well-educated.
regarding to whales. don't you eat any meat? if so, why do you think whales' lives are better than pigs or sheep??
 
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Japan is clean becasue people are well-educated.
regarding to whales. don't you eat any meat? if so, why do you think whales' lives are better than pigs or sheep??


Er...we farm pigs or sheep and they aren't endangered, whales are.

Well-educated. Yep, well-educated in the stripping of other people's resources.
 
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Japan is clean becasue people are well-educated.
regarding to whales. don't you eat any meat? if so, why do you think whales' lives are better than pigs or sheep??


Er...we farm pigs or sheep and they aren't endangered, whales are.

Well-educated. Yep, well-educated in the stripping of other people's resources.


you got one point.
so, when your amry broke into Iraq and stole oil from it, anyone thinks about the so-called
[other people's resources]??
 
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Japan is clean becasue people are well-educated.
regarding to whales. don't you eat any meat? if so, why do you think whales' lives are better than pigs or sheep??


Er...we farm pigs or sheep and they aren't endangered, whales are.

Well-educated. Yep, well-educated in the stripping of other people's resources.


you got one point.
so, when your amry broke into Iraq and stole oil from it, anyone thinks about the so-called
[other people's resources]??


Er...Wrong . As I am not from the USA...I don't think that applies.
 
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INDIAN return

Flight International
21-Dec-2005


The Indian navy is due to receive all five of its refurbished Ilyushin Il-38 maritime patrol aircraft from Russia by late January. It has also received permission to seek replacements for its eight Tupolev Tu-142s and 16 Westland Sea King 42s and intends to upgrade its Kamov Ka-28s.
 
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Who'd they receive permission from....? I mean to replace their own aging equiptment
 
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Who'd they receive permission from....? I mean to replace their own aging equiptment


I would imagine from the Indian Government
 
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India Test-Fires Surface-to-Air Missile

(Source: Voice of America news; issued Jan. 30, 2006)

India has test-fired another multi-target surface-to-air missile, as part of trials of its airborne warfare systems.

The missile, known as "Akash," or the Sky, has a range of approximately 25 kilometers and can carry a warhead of up to 50 kilograms.

Indian defense officials say the missile performed successfully in Monday's test in eastern Orissa state. They say it was fired from a mobile launcher at the country's main Chandipur coastal testing site, northeast of the state capital, Bhubaneshwar.

It was the third Akash missile test in as many days. On Saturday, two missiles fired from rocket launchers tracked, intercepted and destroyed two airborne targets at a range of about 20 kilometers.

The missile is one of five being developed by India's state-run Defense Research and Development Organization.

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India and France Sign Defence Cooperation Agreement

(Source: Indian Ministry of Defence; issued Feb. 20, 2006)

India and France signed a Defence Cooperation agreement here today. The agreement was signed between the Defence Minister Shri Pranab Mukherjee and the French Defence Minister Mrs Michele Alliot-Marie following a summit-level meeting between Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh and French President Jacques Chirac.

The agreement seeks to promote cooperation between the two countries in Defence and Military fields, defence industry, production, research and development and procurement of defence material. The agreement also establishes a framework which aims to cover all cooperation activities conducted in the field of defence.

These activities include, defence strategic dialogue, professional exchanges, joint exercises, visits and training, cooperation in the field of defence material and transfer of technology, exchange of views on security threats and global terrorism and exchange of experiences in peace-keeping operations.

The India-France High Committee on Defence Cooperation will be the apex body responsible for defining, organizing and coordinating bilateral cooperation activities. The High Committee will be headed by Defence Secretary on the Indian side and by the Ministerial representative of the French Defence Minister from the French side.

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...although not mentioned, I'm sure France would also be willing to share their tried and true tactics for surrendering. Big Grin

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Northrop Grumman, U.S. Navy Brief Indian Navy on Hawkeye 2000

(Source: Northrop Grumman; issued Feb. 21, 2006)

BETHPAGE, N.Y. --- Representatives from Northrop Grumman Corporation and the U.S. Navy gave detailed technical briefings in December about the Hawkeye 2000 battle management and airborne early warning system to officials of the Indian Navy.

The Indian Navy is interested in the export configuration of the Northrop Grumman Hawkeye 2000 as a possible solution for its requirement for an airborne early warning aircraft with extensive surveillance and command-and-control capabilities. The aircraft would be used to patrol India's coastline and support deployments of the Indian fleet.

"The more we talk to India's military leadership, the more we understand the complexity of their airborne early warning requirement and the importance they place on a system that can meet those mission requirements on a continuous basis," said Tim Farrell, vice president and integrated product team leader for airborne early warning programs at Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems sector. "The more we learn about the Indian Navy's requirements, the more we feel confident that no system being offered worldwide can more consistently and reliably meet and exceed those mission parameters, than the E-2C Hawkeye 2000."

The Hawkeye 2000, now in production for the U.S. Navy, is the most advanced airborne early warning and command-and-control system in the world. According to Farrell, while all systems under consideration by the Indian military have sensor capability, only the Hawkeye has proven itself with the U.S. and six other nations as a command-and-control asset that is interoperable with the U.S. Navy. One third of the world's Hawkeye aircraft flying peacetime and wartime missions are operated by nations other than the United States.

"Hawkeye is more than a system that watches the skies," Farrell said. "It fuses data from onboard and off-board sensors from the air, sea surface and littorals to give decision-makers in the aircraft and around the network a single, comprehensive picture of what is occurring.

"Such capabilities enable Hawkeyes to take over management of air and surface rescue operations during a natural disaster, or be immediately able to serve as an airborne command post in threats to homeland security," said Farrell. "Our customers understand its power and are continually finding new ways to use the Hawkeye."

Northrop Grumman and U.S. Navy representatives expect to have additional meetings with the Indian Navy in the coming weeks and months. Northrop Grumman is also continuing discussions with several Indian defense companies about ways in which they can participate in the Hawkeye program, both for U.S. and international customers.
 
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Indian navy offered early access to MMA

Flight International
21-Feb-2006


Boeing is seeking to begin exporting its new P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) as early as 2011 and expects to secure US government approval to offer the 737-based platform to India by next month, when it is required to submit a bid for eight maritime reconnaissance aircraft.

“We are working with the US government to get approval,” says Dave Schweppe, Boeing’s business development director for naval systems. “Our plan is to get approval prior to the release of our proposal.”

India has emerged as the first potential export customer for the P-8A, after Australia, Canada and Italy last year rejected an offer to participate in the MMA programme’s system development and demonstration phase. Schweppe says those countries may still acquire the P-8A later and that becoming a co-development partner is not a requirement for securing early delivery slots.

The Indian navy requires deliveries to begin four years after contract signature and is believed to have also asked BAE Systems, EADS, Ilyushin and Lockheed Martin to submit proposals by mid-March. Schweppe expects New Delhi will be ready to sign a contract for new maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) in 2007 or 2008 and says P-8A deliveries to export customers are feasible in 2011-12. “We think we’re well within the window,” he says.

The US Navy, which plans to acquire 108 P-8As, expects to achieve initial operating capability with the type in 2013, but Schweppe says this may be accelerated to 2012. Boeing expects to sell at least another 108 P-8As to international customers over the next 20 years, with several additional countries that require replacement maritime patrol aircraft having already asked the company to provide information on the programme. The MMA officially entered the detail design phase on 1 February and is scheduled to undergo a critical design review by the USN during 2007.

 
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Asian trip presents tightrope for Bush

President to talk with nuclear-armed foes India and Pakistan about issues of trade and terrorism


By Mark Silva
Washington Bureau
Published February 25, 2006

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WASHINGTON -- Six years ago, P.V. Kannan founded 24-hour call centers in Bangalore and Hyderabad where thousands of young, college-educated Indians have become the "help desk" to the world.

His 6,500 employees handle questions on issues from credit cards to computers, providing a service that has been outsourced by companies trying to shave costs.

His workers in India have a starting salary of $250 a month, generous there but paltry by U.S. standards. Kannan has done well for himself and lives in a suburb of San Jose, Calif.

His enterprise is a tidy example of the relentless march of globalization that is reordering the world's economy.

"Our agents tell us that the most common question they get from people is, `Where are you?"' said Kannan, chief executive of 24/7 Customer.

The answer to that question is becoming less important as technology has enabled a ready connection between India and the rest of the world. The transition of these jobs to a low-cost provider holds great promise and peril for the U.S. economy and for the increasingly closer but complicated relationship between the U.S. and India.

"The whole notion of distance is such a mental barrier for people," Kannan said. "A lot of these things bring the two countries face to face."

When President Bush travels to New Delhi next week for a three-day tour that also will take him to Pakistan, the trip will highlight not only the common interests that three nations long at odds have found in a global war against terrorism but also the tensions that remain.

Bush is attempting a delicate balancing act with India, one of the world's burgeoning powers. He is praising an expanding and ultramodern high-tech economy while assuaging the fears of Americans that they are losing some of their better jobs to a land of bountiful cheap labor. At the same time, he is encouraging growth of a countervailing force to China while also assuring official Washington that India can be trusted with nuclear might.

India's future as a peaceful nuclear power, after decades of developing atomic weapons and maintaining a Cold War alliance with the Soviet Union, is the most crucial concern Bush will address in New Delhi, but he also will focus on rapidly expanding economic ties.


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Experts say Bush needs nuke pact

By Mark Silva
Washington Bureau
Published February 25, 2006

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WASHINGTON -- If President Bush comes home from India without a deal on nuclear power, he could be forfeiting for years to come any controls on the atomic arsenal of a fast-growing power.

The potential for a nuclear agreement with India represents "a radical step, a historical step," said Robert Blackwill, a recent U.S. ambassador to India whose powerhouse lobbying firm of Barbour Griffith & Rogers is pressing India's case in Washington.

India already has agreed to separate nuclear electrical power generators, which provide fuel for its nuclear weaponry, from its military program as part of a deal with Bush made last summer. But in the run-up to Bush's visit next week to New Delhi, the State Department has attempted to broker an agreement with India over the details of that separation--a deal crucial to overcoming congressional opposition to the pact.

"The best time to make these breakthroughs is when the political leaders are engaged," Blackwill said. "If it gets turned back to the bureaucracies, we'll never have an agreement."

India never signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which permits member nations to pursue nuclear technology for electrical power under the oversight of the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency. U.S. law prohibits the sale of nuclear technology to nations that are not part of the treaty or have tested a nuclear bomb. India tested bombs in 1974 and 1998.

In an attempt to win support for an exception, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh agreed last summer to separate India's military nuclear weaponry program from a civilian nuclear program that opened its first reactor in 1956--and to place civilian facilities under strict IAEA safeguards. Singh also agreed to a moratorium on weapons testing.

"It is a unique agreement, but I don't think it is a risky agreement," said Ronen Sen, India's ambassador to the U.S., maintaining that India is as concerned as Americans are about the weapons proliferation. "Now we are doubly concerned, because a new dimension has been added. That is the fear of weapons of mass destruction ending up in the wrong hands--terrorist organizations."

Yet as the Bush administration has pressed in recent days for a new agreement to announce next week, India's insistence on keeping fast-breeder nuclear reactors within the military remains a barrier. The U.S. wants all of India's power-generating reactors and fast-breeder reactors in a civilian program under IAEA supervision.

The difference is crucial: If India keeps just a couple of its 22 reactors within its military program, it still could produce "two or three" bombs a year, according to Robert Einhorn of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. With breeder reactors, he said, it could produce "scores" of new weapons.

Critics in the U.S. question the need for such an exception in the face of India's defiance of an international treaty.

The White House has encountered "a stronger reaction against it than they expected," Einhorn said. "In India, too, there has been a backlash. . . . Members of the Singh administration think India is kowtowing to the U.S."

Some in India suspect another motivation on Bush's part: Creation of a new market for a nuclear construction industry that has been stymied with no new reactors built in the U.S. since the 1970s.

"The Bush administration is keen to revive the U.S. civilian nuclear industry," said Brahma Chellaney, professor of strategic studies at The Center for Policy Research in New Delhi. "It seems to me the only way the nuclear power industry in the U.S. can be revived is to get India to place some multibillion-dollar nuclear reactor contracts."
 
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Excerpt from Defense Department Fact Sheet: US-India Defense Relationship

(Source: US Department of Defense; issued March 2, 2006)

The U.S. and India seek to expand defense trade, co-production, joint development, and technology transfer, all of which will improve interoperability and cooperation. We are working through several forums to achieve this goal.

The U.S. intends to transfer the USS TRENTON amphibious transport ship to India in early 2007.

U.S. firms will compete with contemporary technology in the Indian Air Force’s upcoming tender for Multi-Role Combat Aircraft and a U.S. firm is competing in the Indian Army’s commercial tender for a new light helicopter. (ends)


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Defense Department Statement on India Partnership

(Source: US Department of Defense; issued March 2, 2006)

The United States and India seek to build the architecture of a durable defense partnership. Everything we have accomplished, including the New Framework for the Defense Relationship signed by Secretary Rumsfeld and Minister Mukherjee last June, is geared toward accomplishing this goal. Since then, we have continued to build the foundation for defense cooperation through the U.S.-India Disaster Relief Initiative (announced during Prime Minister Singh’s visit to Washington last July), the Research, Development, Test and Evaluation Agreement, and the Framework for Maritime Security Cooperation, and we will soon conclude a logistics support agreement.

Examples of the progress in our defense cooperation are many. The United States and India cooperated closely in providing aid to tsunami victims in Southeast Asia in December 2004-January 2005. In January 2006, the U.S. Navy rescued Indian mariners whose ship had been hijacked by Somali pirates. And, in the past year U.S. and Indian Armed Forces have broken new ground with successfully more advanced and precedent-setting air, Army and naval exercises.

Defense trade and technology cooperation are vital components of our defense relationship. These will serve key objectives of our strategic partnership by helping to build ties among our defense establishments and industries and to develop interoperability among our armed forces. Defense technology cooperation will contribute to strengthened military capabilities and will also result in economic benefits through expanded trade.

It is our goal to help meet India’s needs in the defense realm, and to provide important capabilities and technologies that India seeks. We are on a path to accomplish this. Where only a few years ago, no one would have talked about the prospects for a major U.S.-India defense deal, today the prospects are promising, whether in the realm of combat aircraft, helicopters, maritime patrol aircraft, or naval vessels.

The next step is to turn the talk of prospective sales into reality. The United States is committed to working with India to do this.

We are aware of past Indian concerns about reliability of supply. One of the key elements of the close partnership we have developed with India is a clearer understanding of converging strategic interests, and mutual respect of each other's priorities. We are committed to addressing this priority of India—the United States intends to be a reliable partner. It is in the U.S. interest to do so.

We see the Multi-Role Combat Aircraft competition as a prime opportunity to demonstrate the advances and transformation of the U.S.-India relationship in the area of defense trade in general and reliability, in particular.

The United States is committed to providing state-of-the art fighter aircraft in response to India’s requirements for a multi-role combat aircraft. We have indicated our intention to offer both the F-16 and the F-18, both combat proven aircraft. As additional capabilities enter our force, we will work with the government of India to make them available. Our proposal will also address India’s interest in technology transfer and indigenous co-production.

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India Issues RFP for Maritime Patrol Aircraft

(Source: Indian Ministry f Defence; issued March 9, 2006)

A Request for Proposal on global basis for procurement of Long Range Maritime Reconnaissance Anti-Submarine Warfare aircraft has been issued to vendors world wide, including the manufacturers of P3C Orion aircraft and Navy International Program Office, USA.

This information was given by the Defence Minister Shri Pranab Mukherjee in a written reply to Smt NP Durga in Rajya Sabha today.

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Boeing Offers P-8A Patrol Aircraft to India

(Source: Boeing Co.; issued April 13, 2006)

ST. LOUIS --- A team led by Boeing today submitted its proposal to develop and deliver eight long-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare aircraft to the Indian navy.

Boeing is offering a variant of its P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft, which is currently in development for the U.S. Navy. The proposed aircraft would provide India with a significantly improved maritime patrol and reconnaissance capability.

"We have proposed a unique system that will enhance the capability of the Indian navy in anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare," said Rick Buck, Boeing program manager for P-8A international programs. "The increased range, speed, radius of action and advanced combat power inherent in our 21st century solution will enable the Indian navy to fully patrol and influence events in its entire operational region. Additionally, the commonality inherent in our solution will greatly enhance the interoperability and supportability objectives publicly supported by both the U.S. and Indian navies."

Boeing is the prime contractor and systems integrator for the U.S. Navy's P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft. The Boeing team includes CFM, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and Smiths. The U.S. Navy plans to purchase 108 aircraft, with deliveries beginning in 2009.

Boeing's proposal includes the development of a unique Indian navy P-8 configuration, significant participation for Indian industry, test and certification activities, and eight aircraft delivered over a four-year period.

Under the request for proposal, bids were to be submitted by April 13, 2006, with first deliveries occurring within 48 months of the contract award.
 
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Snag Appears in India-US Nuclear Deal

(Source: Voice of America news; issued April 18, 2006)

A new snag has appeared in the implementation of the nuclear deal that President Bush and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh signed last July, but that has not yet been approved by the U.S. Congress.

India is rejecting a proposed addition to the draft agreement, offered by Washington and stipulating that the deal will be canceled if India detonates another nuclear bomb.

An Indian foreign ministry spokesman confirmed the controversy Monday. He said New Delhi has told Washington that India is bound only by a joint statement the two leaders issued in Washington in July.

In that statement, India committed to a unilateral moratorium on nuclear testing. The foreign ministry spokesman said there is no place for any such new clause in the draft agreement.

Under the proposed deal, India will open most of its nuclear facilities for international inspections, and in return, it will be able to buy nuclear power plants and fuel from the United States and other members of the suppliers' club.

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India Readies 4,000-km Ballistic Missile

(Source: Indian Government news; issued May 12, 2006)

In yet another example of the country’s defence mechanism becoming stronger and more self reliant, top defence scientist M Natarajan says India's prestigious Agni-III intermediate-range ballistic missile is technically ready for launch, capable of hitting targets more than 4000 kilometres away.

According to the Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister, M Natarajan, "We (DRDO) are technically ready for the test-firing of the missile." Natarajan made the announcement in a function at New Delhi in which Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was the chief guest. "We are awaiting a nod from the government," he said.

According to the news agency, the nuclear capable surface-based Agni-III with solid and liquid propellant has never been fired and tests have repeatedly been put off since November 2004.

While some say the missile has a range of more than 3000 km, others put its reach between 4000 to 6000 km.

According to the DRDO sources, the missile can be deployed through rail or road mobile launch vehicles and has an inertial guidance system with improved optical or radar terminal phase co-relation capability.

This gives it a high degree of accuracy with a medium to large nuclear payload, most likely a 200 or 300 kilo tonne war head, the sources said.

The DRDO has also achieved major breakthrough in making the command and control systems of other surface-to-surface missiles more sophisticated.

Further according to DRDO award citations, the organisation has now developed complete indigenous capability and self-reliance in the field of solid propulsion.

India had revised its estimate of when the Agni-III ballistic missile will begin to undergo testing, which was reportedly expected in 2003.

DRDO sources said some "technical problems" which had cropped up were now well under control.

They said other Agni missiles, Agni-I (700-800 km range) and Agni-II (2000 km range) had already been inducted into the army as part of country's minimum deterrent. These two missiles have boosters from the Indian Space Research Organisation.

However, they said Agni-III was a totally different system with an entirely new booster vehicle. Its various systems have to be extensively tested in ground test beds to establish reliability.

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