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I would be very surprised if the India bought F-18s and F-16s |
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I think that if India were to purchase a U.S. made fighter, it would be the F-16, but I agree with you about being surprised if India bought either the F-18 or F-16. My bet is on the Mirage 2000-5. |
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 Caption: KOLKATA, INDIA: Indian groundstaff drive a van past a US Airforce aeroplane standing on the tarmac of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International Aiport in Kolkata,04 November 2005. Indian and US airforces are scheduled to hold joint military exercises in the eastern Indian state of West Bengal from 07 November, at the Kalaikunda Air Base. AFP PHOTO/STR (Photo credit should read STR/AFP/Getty Images) |
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Okay, I'll bite...why? |
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Experienced Member |
I would suggest for two reasons: The Indian Air Force has used Russian aircraft successful for many years....and Russian aircraft are getting better and better. So why change a well established relationship. Secondly...the US does the well known habit of cutting support and spares to countries that have fallen foul of US foreign policy. The Pakistan example springs to mind straight away with the sale of the F16s. |
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Russia has gotten a lot better over the last few years in regards to logistical/spares support to their customers because they discovered that, shockingly, if you provide good customer service, that customer tends to reward with you with continued business.  On a slightly different note, did you notice that Pakistan, at least temporarily, has cut the number of F-16s they are buying to help pay for recovery efforts? |
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New Member |
Historically,in the cold war India was pro-soviet. After the collapse of USSR India did open up to US.
So can F-16s/F-18s be sold to India? Yes but we have to play our cards very effective and US has more cards to play with than France and Russia. 1, US can give better trade deals than France and Russia. 2, US can also bargain such as "we will give you the right to acquire US civil nuclear technology if you buy our planes" 3,Support for UN seat 4,Economical assistance. Hurdles that US might face,is the composition of the indian government. If i am correct the major parties still have to get support from leftist parties who can turn down political support if India buys F-18s. If the right-wing conservative parties still where in place then they should have said yes to buy american planes. |
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Super Member |
Actually, they've suspended the acquisition of the aircraft all together...and that is the right thing to do IMO. |
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  KALAIKUNDA AIR STATION, India (AFPN) -- F-16 Fighting Falcons, from the 13th Fighter Squadron at Misawa Air Base, Japan, and an E-3 Sentry airborne warning and control system aircraft from the 961st Airborne Air Control Squadron at Kadena Air Base, Japan, fill the flightline here. Both squadrons and Airmen from throughout Pacific Air Forces are here participating in the Cope India 06 exercise, which began Nov. 7. (U.S. Air Force photo by Capt. John Redfield) |
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Interesting, I only saw that they cut some of the F-16s, but you're right, it's the right thing for them to do right now. |
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Experienced Member |
Historically,in the cold war India was pro-soviet. After the collapse of USSR India did open up to US
Buying Soviet equipment...had nothing to do with being pro-soviet. You have to remember that the India Army is a huge beast (59 Armoured Battaions)....which has been on operations includes wars since 1947. It needed to buy large amounts of reasonably good equipment.....with no stings attachs. |
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Experienced Member |
A little bit of old news, but relevant for this topic:
India bids to rule the waves
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Super Member |
And so it begins. |
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Super Member |
India to Lease Two P-3C Orions
Source: US Defense Security Cooperation Agency; issued Nov. 14, 2005) On 14 November 2005, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of logistics support for two leased P-3C aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $133 million. The Government of India has requested a possible sale of logistics support for two leased P-3C aircraft. Also included are training devices, support and test equipment, engineering technical services, supply support, operation and maintenance training, documentation, spare/repair parts, publications, personnel training, training equipment, contractor technical and logistics personnel services, and other related support elements. The estimated cost is $133 million. This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of an important ally and to strengthen the U.S.-India strategic partnership, which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace, and economic progress in South Asia. The two leased P-3 aircraft will replace two existing Indian Navy patrol aircraft, Soviet built IL-38 May aircraft, which are quickly reaching the end of their fatigue and operational service life. To maintain security, it is necessary that India replace these fixed-wing aircraft with an airborne operational capability for land-based maritime patrol and reconnaissance, including: economic exclusion zone surveillance and protection; command and control (C2); Anti-Submarine warfare; and anti-surface warfare. Modernization will enhance the capabilities of the Indian Navy, support its regional influence and meet its legitimate self-defense needs. India is capable of absorbing and maintaining these additional aircraft in its inventory. The principal contractors will be: --Lockheed Martin Eagan, Minnesota --Lockheed Martin Aircraft Center Greenville, South Carolina --Logistics Support International, Inc. Jacksonville, Florida There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. Implementation of this proposed sale will require technical assistance prior to the delivery of the first aircraft and continued involvement by U.S. and contractor representatives to India for three years. Several U.S. Government and contractor representatives will travel to India for two-week intervals twice annually to participate in training, program management and technical reviews. There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale. The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region. This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded. -ends- |
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India Says Russian Military Imports Reach $9 Billion
(Source: Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty; issued Nov. 15, 2005) India's defense minister said today that New Delhi is spending nearly $9 billion on Russian weapons and military equipment. Prahab Mukherjee was speaking today at a meeting in Moscow of a Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission for military-technical cooperation. Mukherjee is in Moscow for two days of talks with his Russian counterpart Sergei Ivanov. India accounts for nearly 40 percent of Russian exports of military hardware. New Delhi says Russia is its primary supplier of armaments and military hardware. -ends- |
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India, Russia Expand Arms Cooperation
(Source: India Press Information Bureau; issued Nov. 16, 2005) The 5th Meeting of the India-Russia Inter Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation held in Moscow today reviewed the progress on bilateral defence cooperation between the two countries and also decided on restructuring the existing structure of the Commission. The Commission expressed satisfaction on the progress of fitment and overhaul of the aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov and its based aircraft. Other major programmes reviewed by the Commission include repair and modernization of frigates obtained from Russia, licensed production of SU-30 MKI Air Craft, T-90S Tanks and other equipment of Soviet origin that form major part of the Indian defence inventory. Some of the major programmes considered for progressing between the two countries keeping in view joint partnership were the: -- development and production of the 5th-generation aircraft, --joint development of multi-role Transport Aircraft and --procurement of three more frigates. On the joint development and production of multi-role transport aircraft, it was decided that India and Russia will have equal participation and work share keeping in view the financial and economic viability of the project. A formal protocol was signed by the two Defence Ministers on the outcome of the meeting of the 5th India-Russia Inter Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation. Two separate protocols were also signed by the heads of Working Group on Military Technical Cooperation and Ship Building, Aviation and Land Systems. These working groups had detailed deliberations on defence cooperation activities between the two countries. The agreement on Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) was drafted during the meeting to the satisfaction of the two sides and it would be signed during Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh’s forthcoming visit to Russia next month. During the meeting India and Russia exchanged views on the long-term perspective of mutual cooperation in bilateral military technical cooperation and concluded the session with the promise to further strengthen the cooperation not only keeping defence sector in view but also the global security scenario in mind. The Commission meeting was co-chaired by Defence Minister Shri Pranab Mukherjee and his Russian counterpart Mr. Sergei Ivanov. -ends- |
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New Member |
Coming from a Hispanic im half puerto rican half mexican trust me if mexico were to have a war with the United States the Mexican americans would happily fight mexico. Why well because They are like me i love this country im not mexican im not puerto rican above all things im one thing im american. There is no country i would die for other than the usa. |
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Gone Kehmina |
i just came back from India.
Streets are dirty and very crowdy. I wonder to know why people still are living there. |
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Experienced Member |
While Japan is so much cleaner...Using up other people's resources, killing whales for research and with one of the highest rates of suicide.
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