Good post...excellent points.
I would rank some of the Coalition of the Willing among our friends. Maybe not at the 100% or 90% (as a lot may be financially motivated) but there are a lot of countries that are contributing troops to help in Iraq.
Remember that some of our Latin American friends are sending support.
Also remember that South Korea was one of the first countries to send support to Iraq following hostilities.
Individually they may not be sending a whole lot of troops, but they are the makings of one hell of a mult-national division. This division will be commanded by the Brits, who continue to stand by the US.
My hat goes off to them all, regardless of their final standing in the percentage list.
I've revised the list slightly.
Additions, deletions, comments are welcome.
The 3 Baltic States (Lit, Lat & Estn)
for some reason Combatmix you have Israel on the chart in 100%'s and 50%'s make up your mind
NZDF Deployment To Iraq
(Source: New Zealand Ministry of Defence issued Aug. 11, 2003)
Prime Minister Helen Clark and Defence Minister Mark Burton announced today that an engineering detachment of 61 New Zealand Defence Force personnel will be deployed in late September to work alongside the United Kingdom forces, and the forces of other countries led by the UK, which are currently engaged in humanitarian and reconstruction tasks in South-East Iraq.
“UN Security Council Resolution 1483 made it clear that the UN has a vital role to play in the post-war period. It also appealed to UN member states to assist the people of Iraq in their efforts to rebuild their country and to contribute to conditions of stability and security in Iraq,” Helen Clark said.
“The government has consistently said that New Zealand was prepared to provide humanitarian and reconstruction assistance at the end of the conflict, provided that there was appropriate multilateral cover.
“Resolution 1483 calls on those in a position to do so to provide assistance, and it is consistent with our obligations under the UN Charter that New Zealand should provide such assistance.
“Under Resolution 1483, we can make a useful contribution without in any way becoming an occupying power. The government is also pleased that New Zealand has the opportunity to operate once again alongside British forces while we engage in humanitarian and reconstruction work,” Helen Clark said.
Mark Burton said that NZDF engineers would work to repair and refurbish hospitals, health clinics, schools, police stations, law courts, and municipal and government buildings. In addition, they will assist in restoring electricity, and the rebuilding of bridges and water pipelines. Two NZDF staff officers will be stationed at the UK headquarters in Basra, and two staff officer will be sent to the UK Engineer Headquarters in Shaibah.
“As the current situation shows, there is an urgent need for the kind of civil reconstruction and support that New Zealand can offer,” Mark Burton said.
“Iraq is a challenging environment, but the NZDF is ideally suited to undertake this work, which is so vital to restoring normality for the Iraqi people.
“Our personnel have an international reputation for excellence. New Zealand’s calm, co-operative style has been enhanced by working alongside different forces in such diverse situations as Bosnia, Bougainville, Timor Leste, and most recently, our current deployment to the Solomon Islands.
“As is the case with all deployments, the situation will be closely monitored to ensure that conditions allow the NZDF to undertake the tasks for which they were deployed.”
The detachment will initially be deployed for six months, with an option of a second six-month rotation.
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As of today:
Russia - 1% (you know...for helping us get that arms dealer)
you want to clarify on that ssgkeithsgirl. I didn't hear what happened.
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Yesterday the news reported that Russia helped us sting that arms dealer who was trying to import Russian-made shoulder launched missiles. The reason I only gave them 1% is because Putin wasn't exactly our buddy when it came to Iraq. I'm sorry if this offends you, but the fact remains and it's well known that Putin doesn't exactly like us. Funny thing is Fox News reported (and this was before the war, but while tensions were building) that President Bush said he admired Putin and thought he could really work with him.
Another definition of a staunch ally, is that after a powershift in a election the policy of US support stands firm
UK, doesnt matter labour or consrvative
Israel, doesn´t matter shimon Perez or Ariel sharon.
Japan , doesn´t matter liberal or conservative.
South Korea, doesn´t matter liberal or conservative.
Poland, doesn´t matter socialist or conservative/liberal...
They are the only ones that payed off their dept to the United States(with interest I might add).
I forgot Taiwan, in this category.
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BRITAIN: I think after this war, there will be a political upheaval in Britain and the Reds will be in charge, and they will probably then start supporting our enemies just like France and Germany does. I wouldn't put too much trust in the Brits in the future, regardless of the valor of their military, because they are falling prey to the muslims and leftists more and more each day.
AUSTRALIA: Solid folks for the most part, but too many liberals to count on, they may also turn away from us eventually, especially if we don't work on our relationship with them.
Canada: You're kidding, right? Canadians hate America, and go to great lengths to express it. I consider them a closet enemy in that they knowingly harbor terrorists. The sooner we have an excuse to invade, or just nuke them, the better.
South Korea: The only SKs who like us are the ones who remember the war and a small minority of moderates who like Americans, such as a friend of mine, the rest are a bunch of punk kids who would rather live under Communism than have us "white devils" among them. Never forget that as a group, Asians are more racist than anyone else and will ally themselves with another Asian enemy in the short term to repel a non-Asian enemy, which is how they see us. Otherwise it would be easy to resolve the NK nuke problem, but they are all aganist us more than NK.
ISRAEL: Israelis only tolerate dealing with we "goyim" (it means abomination in Hebrew, such a nice way to refer to those who saved your ***) because we give them billions of our tax dollars, which we do because so many Jews are political contributors. When we have a Muslim majority in a few years, support for Israel will dry up. Regardless, Israel has their hands full one way or another.
TURKEY: Just a third world dictatorship that would love to see us fall. Don't you remember the people in the streets protesting the possibility that we would send in the 4th ID through Turkey? They celebrated like mad when their parliament refused to let us in. They are our enemy, and they will show their true colors more and more in time.
As I see it, we don't have any allies we can count on for anything but small operations in the future. I hope Britain remains an ally, but it's becoming a Muslim colony, and will be an Islamic state within fifty years. Truth be told, we will probably be fighting Britain within this century.
The future doesn't look too good.
Upp yup let's abandon a free country(Israel) for the likes of a Tyranny(Palestine). I've talked to many Israelis and they are mostly good people.
Ok, now I see. Yes that operation was realy good and sucessful.
Well, about Putin, I don't think he personaly doesn't like US. The thing is, Soviet Union was concidered very very powerful back in the old days. They were proud and didn't want to listen to anyone but themselves because they had pride and strength. Now Russia has fuced up economy, lots of alcoholics, young kids that are in the army are not fead right and are ignorant. So he wants to restore their pride, faith and economy. What Putin or Russia is doing it's not personal to US or any other nation, it's something that hurts them see that US is strong and Russia is weak. If Russia was a super Power like us, and Putin would be it's president (not some other idiot in charge) than you would see a big unification of our both big nations. Since Russia has nothing to show on the global arena, all they have right now is pride and that is not a factor for tensions, it's afcource a factor for an ally relationship.
I wouldn't take it resiously. But the thing we NEED to do is show that we are not some little pussycat that gets scared when problems arise. Cause we don't need to prove that we are strong, but what we need to prove wrong what russians think: if we need to act, we will! Even what people object, and public is scared.
I'm Ukrainian born and now live in US, thus I know how people over there in Russia and other former soviet union countries think. They didn't get a chance to go to us and other nations like me to visit, live and see how the real world works. To have wisdom and humanity in you!
There won't be any tensions between US and Russia, at least if US won't hurt Russians ego and humiliate them.
Are you serious?! Canada is not that bad. Up north yes there are lots of french living potheads and yes they do hate US (but not US alone, they hate anyone that is not like them, sort of Natzi idealistic point of view there)
On the other side down south in Canada, there are alot of loyal people to US.
Relations between US and south Canada are good, but about north canada - there isn't a change, as I said they are like Natzi of Germany, won't bowl, they want everyone to be like them.
You might want to change your perception about world from passimistic to optimistic, because you'll be no better than other people and nations that oppose us. And do not be bias, we are not fighting muslims, but only radical extremists. It's true that some governments around the world do support those radicals, thus we have to deal with them. But muslims that live in healthy democratic countries - they are not our target (refering to the statement about Britain)
We should not emphysise these issues on muslims, but on terrorists, and if I'm not mistaken, those terrorists are not muslims, they are brain-washed radical muslims, and even other religious backgrounds (while, black, asian, and other) People that are bribed to execute some financial transactions, those people are not even muslims, they are christians and jews. It's not a war about religion or race, it's a war on radical extremists that take tragic steps to proving their views, religious bios, and other dull ideas.
Of course the people of Russia and Ukraine, with their experience of hardship in this century, are no enemies of the west. They are good people and will raise again to the same econmic levels as the west europeans, if given the same possibilities.
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Russia is still very powerful...whether the people think so or not. For many years Russia supplied weapons to other nations around the world. Have you ever noticed that something is either a US-made or Russian-made something or other? Well China is in on the action too, but not nearly as much.
I still see Russia as powerful anyway. But I no longer see them as a threat...like during the Cold War days (I was raised to be afraid of Russia, but that's all gone now).
I have Ukranian neighbors. They're very nice people. They have 4 of the cutest boys I've ever seen. They speak Ukranian and English perfectly...not bad for little tikes!
Even though Australia has the best historical hit rate I think we missed Grenada & Panama (over before we got there and you did not need us anyway ha ha).
The Kiwis (New Zealanders)? The reality is that their forces are so miniscule that they can barely handle two simultaneous deployments. They are correctly concentrating on land forces and Pacific deployments (their niche).
Israel? Yup. USS Liberty, the assassination of US Citizen (by special Act of Congress) Dr Gerald Bull and recruiting Jonathan Pollard as a spy doesnt give me confidence in their intentions...
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