I enlisted under AECF and i hope to get FC but i was wondering is there any real difference to quality of life between Frigates and Burke Destroyers?

Also what's a work day like for an FC tomahawk tech?

Question:
Which would you rather serve on?

Choices:
CVN
Burke Destroyer
FFG

 

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I enlisted under AECF and i hope to get FC but i was wondering is there any real difference to quality of life between Tico Frigates and Burke Destroyers?

Also what's a work day like for an FC tomahawk tech?

There is only one class of Frigate(FF) in commission in the Navy and they ain't "Tico".

BoatsBM1

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I had no idea.

I thought they still had Ticonderoga Class Frigates in commission

You are confusing yourself with the Ticonderoga class missile cruiser (CG).

Also, if you have a choice, get stationed on a ship, as ship's company. Don't listen to the wannabe sailors/ naysayers who don't want to inconvenience themselves with ship life. It is an experience; it is the NAVY EXPERIENCE.

Since when did carriers start deploying tomahawks?

I'll take a Gearing class Graydog anyday.

To answer your question, FFG's dont have tomahawks onboard. In fact most FFG's dont have missiles at all, they pretty much just do drug ops. Not the rule of course, just what I have seen. Arleigh Burkes are the cadillacs of the fleet. But the CG's are nice too, both have TLAM's.

USS McCandless FFT - 1084
USS Ainsworth FFT - 1090

Served on Both Frigates. 3 words can only describe these ships.

S E A * S I C K * C R E W


They are small ships compared to the Destroyers and Carriers and in fact, ALL ships in the Navy except for the Mine Sweepers...

Not a lot of people on board. We had 150 people to include 125 men and 25 women.

Total rust buckets and now today used as Target Practice I read by the Turkish Navy that leased and then bought them back in 2002.

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They are small ships compared to the Destroyers and Carriers and in fact, ALL ships in the Navy except for the Mine Sweepers...

and submarines. Even the largest boats (Ohio class) are only 120' longer with a beam that is 5' less, and most, if not all or more, of that 120' is missile ocmpartment so not an area you can lounge in. The attack submarines are considerably smaller.

However, the ride is much smoother because waves don't generally reach that far under water.

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They are small ships compared to the Destroyers and Carriers and in fact, ALL ships in the Navy except for the Mine Sweepers...

and submarines. Even the largest boats (Ohio class) are only 120' longer with a beam that is 5' less, and most, if not all or more, of that 120' is missile ocmpartment so not an area you can lounge in. The attack submarines are considerably smaller.

However, the ride is much smoother because waves don't generally reach that far under water.

120’ longer and 15,000 tons difference. The berthing areas, COB’s office, heads, laundry, gym, corpsman’s office, SK’s office, and yes, even the lounge are all located in the missile compartment.

DDG's "caddilacs of the fleet" give me a frickin break. I am a Plankowner on the Yorktown and retired of her in 01 I will take riding an AEGIS cruiser VLS or MK-26 shooter any day of the week and twice on Sunday over one of those low powered wannbe's

As far as FFG's go the few we have left are on there last leggs 2-3, 5 years max they will probablky all be gone.

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Navy91
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USS McCandless FFT - 1084
USS Ainsworth FFT - 1090

Served on Both Frigates. 3 words can only describe these ships.

S E A * S I C K * C R E W


They are small ships compared to the Destroyers and Carriers and in fact, ALL ships in the Navy except for the Mine Sweepers..

What a crock of BS!!

Lets look at the two DE/FF/FFT's you listed.

USS McCandless FFT - 1084
USS Ainsworth FFT - 1090

Those two of their class were larger than a number of both DD-692's and DD-710's,that were still in commission on the date that both of yours listed were commissioned.

Both 1084 and 1090;
Dimensions: 438'(oa), 415" (wl) x 46' 9"

DD-692 class
Dimensions, 376' 6"(oa) x 40' 10"

DD-710 Class
Dimensions, 390' 6"(oa) x 40' 10"

Lets add the DD-931 class to the mix, most of which were also in commission at the same time as the two you listed.

DD-931 class
Dimensions, 418' 6"(oa) x 44' 11"

Now when it comes to todays FFG's I am willing to bet that besides the MHM's you mentioned, that the crews of the Cyclone class PC's can call your statemant about the FF's/FFG's being smaller, as pure BS also.

Cyclone class
Length 170'; Beam 25'

OOP's....almost forgot the LCS 1 and others to come, built like her;
Length: 324 (wl), 378.9' (oa)
Beam: 43' (wl)

Of course present day FFG's are smaller than today's DDG's,CG's,etc., so that part of your statement is true.

I could look for some more info but I think I made my point.

Fair Winds

BoatsBM1

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Both of em were bigger than the Davis DD937. She was 415 feet long. Guess our OP got seasick a lot from the sounds of it. I personaly liked the ride better than the Saratoga. On that carrier you didn't know you were on a ship from the ride most of the time and the tennants on the roof never turned down the sound.

By the way BM1 that was not all BS!!! They are among the small ships and I assume there are smaller in todays Navy.

My point was, I have rode out 25-35ft seas leaning and near walking the Bulk-heads and that was an experience.


No I was not among the Sea Sick Crew myself by means of the PINK pill that most of the 1st Class and CPO's failed to take.

and especially the Officers

They filled up the Heads quite well.

........BM1 and BMC never got sick though, that I recall....

Navy91

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DDG's "caddilacs of the fleet" give me a frickin break. I am a Plankowner on the Yorktown and retired of her in 01 I will take riding an AEGIS cruiser VLS or MK-26 shooter any day of the week and twice on Sunday over one of those low powered wannbe's

As far as FFG's go the few we have left are on there last leggs 2-3, 5 years max they will probablky all be gone.

I speak from more of an engineering view point. Not Combat Systems. So, my point of view is different than yours. But DDG's, in terms of true power, are more powerful. The DDG K34's make 2500KW's vs the 2000KW's the K17's have onboard DD/CG's.

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By the way BM1 that was not all BS!!! They are among the small ships and I assume there are smaller in todays Navy.

Being "among the small ships" and being smaller than all but minesweepers is what is BS about it.
There were others that were smaller the those two,even during your time aboard them and right up till the time they were both decommed.

Ok I'll lighten up and asked if you remember when and where this pic was taken and which one you were on at the time?



Damn, look at all that freeboard!!

BoatsBM1

Cool Boats. I have this pic on my screen saver actually. Call me a lifer at heart I guess.

Really cool of you to post this. I was on the McCandless 1084 in this pic.

This was in 1993 at Naval Station Mayport down in Jacksonville, FL.

This was our Change of Command Ceremony in August 1993...

WOW...what a memory, I have always said that this was something to have both the ships I served on in the pic and the same time. You Agee!!

Thanks again Boats......Do I know you? I know you are in Jacksonville, right?

We were stationed in Ingleside, TX and the Ainsworth was stationed in Staten Island, NY.

P>S..I never meant to imply that mine sweepers were smaller, they are smaller than we were.

Sold them both to TURKEY!

Navy91

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Do I know you? I know you are in Jacksonville, right?

Double negatives.

But I did retire from the Duval County SO.

There is a chance I have been out of the Navy longer than you have been alive.

Did BM3 Boatman have you hanging in a Bosun Chair cleaning all that freeboard?

BoatsBM1
DD-692
AD-27
DD-692
Yep, thats right, two tours on the DD-692

Yep....BM3 did just that...You know Boatman?

That has been ages ago...I have been out of the Navy since 1994.

Lived at Jax Bch for a few years..

How do you know BM3 Boatman from those days. Where were you?

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Where were you?

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But I did retire from the Duval County SO.

How much of a hint do you need?

Never saw the name Boatman till tonight.

Messing with you man....but I bet I got your mind off that other stuff, that has probably been putting your BP through the roof, if only for a little while.

Now go have that friggin beer!!

BoatsBM1