Will I be disqualified from security clearance jobs because of my marijuana use after the age of 18?? Or would I only be disqualified if I lie about my use of it?? I was a frequent user for a little over a year but have stopped for over 2 months now to join the navy but curious of what effects it will have on my security clearance.

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was a frequent user for a little over a year

I think it's going to have less of an impact on your ability to obtain a security clearance as it is on enlisting at all. The military has been known to waive experimental use but frequent use not so much. With recruiting goals being met or exceeded (note that enlistment bonuses for nukes were suspended for a couple of months because of the number of people enlisting) then your chances of getting a waive for frequent use is pretty small.

with you only being clean for two months your chances of getting in at all are slim, let alone getting a Clearance.

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Originally posted by 19817691:
Will I be disqualified from security clearance jobs because of my marijuana use after the age of 18?? Or would I only be disqualified if I lie about my use of it?? I was a frequent user for a little over a year but have stopped for over 2 months now to join the navy but curious of what effects it will have on my security clearance.

When its time to put down if you've used a drug better be honest. The investigation for security clearances goes preaty deep and your friends and their friends get asked about you. If you try to hide something you won't go anywhere but with your history you probably won't anyways.

ok.. now what about if it was an experimental use?? my friend who wanted to join as well has only used the drug maybe 5 times.. what are his chances and expectations of security clearances??

Lecture time. Get some new friends. Experimenting is one, maybe two times, not five or more.

MY opinion is only that. It carries no weight and is not official policy by any means as is the word of the rest of the veterans here. There is one thing you will find that we all have in common though, and that is none of us has a tollerance for drug use or people who use them. Our answers come from that background.

I'de be looking for something else for you and your friend as the military isn't a fit for you with the background you've given us.

I also don't like the "Oh, frequent use is a dealbreaker? Hmmm...I have a friend who's only an experimental user... how about him?"

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Originally posted by flynavynfo:
I also don't like the "Oh, frequent use is a dealbreaker? Hmmm...I have a friend who's only an experimental user... how about him?"

That doesnt give you a warm fuzzy about the OP? Why not? lol.

OP-you admit habitual use of illegal drugs, which makes you ineligible for a DoD Security Clearance.

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

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Originally posted by GerryRM3:

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Originally posted by 19817691:
Will I be disqualified from security clearance jobs because of my marijuana use after the age of 18?? Or would I only be disqualified if I lie about my use of it?? I was a frequent user for a little over a year but have stopped for over 2 months now to join the navy but curious of what effects it will have on my security clearance.

When its time to put down if you've used a drug better be honest. The investigation for security clearances goes preaty deep and your friends and their friends get asked about you. If you try to hide something you won't go anywhere but with your history you probably won't anyways.

+1.

Depending on the clearance level, they can get very in-depth.

For the OP, given your information, I would recommend you forget any thoughts about joining the military. We don't have use for substance abusers.

If, by some chance you do get in, you need to sever any and all contacts with your friends that use. For example, you get clean, go in, and do good things. You go home, you meet up with one of your old pals who just happens to have some on him and gets in your car.

You get stopped for a traffic violation. Local police find his stash. You both get taken in.

He gets the judge to believe you had nothing to do with the stash, and you get let off.

You return to your command. They pursue the issue as you are responsible for what he/she introduced into your car. Next stop, the civilian world. Had one Sailor that did happen to in San Diego in the bad old days of the 1980's. He was no loss to the Navy.

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Originally posted by XSquidling:
OP-you admit habitual use of illegal drugs, which makes you ineligible for a DoD Security Clearance.

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Since when? Even "habitual" drug use may be mitigated by time and other factors. Now habitual drug use less than 1 year ago may be tough.

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Originally posted by rvacoast:

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Originally posted by XSquidling:
OP-you admit habitual use of illegal drugs, which makes you ineligible for a DoD Security Clearance.

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Since when? Even "habitual" drug use may be mitigated by time and other factors. Now habitual drug use less than 1 year ago may be tough.

You're right, but that was more 'waiverable', back when recruiters were trying to fill slots. Now they'returning away qualified people. I don't think they're going to waive a druggie, when they don't need the quota.

Hell, take a look at his post here and you will see that he admits to using while on probation for a conviction of possesion of marijuana, something he did not disclose in this topic but now runs to another forum to see if he can get someone to approve of his deception about lieing and thinks he has a scheme to beat the system.

BoatsBM1

9:55 AM 13 October 2009
19817691

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Will I be disqualified from security clearance jobs because of my marijuana use after the age of 18?? Or would I only be disqualified if I lie about my use of it?? I was a frequent user for a little over a year but have stopped for over 2 months now to join the navy but curious of what effects it will have on my security clearance.

12:15 PM
19817691
"ok.. now what about if it was an expeerimental use?? my friend who wanted to join as well has only used the drug maybe 5 times.. what are his chances and expectations of security clearances??"
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Come on Lad, or Lass as the case may be, I was born at night but not LAST night.

Opps there I go being insensitive and Non PC again.
Not to mention non trusting.

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Originally posted by GerryRM3:

Right click...."Save".

Nice one.

Self-admitted, regular use up until the last two months sure sounds like habitual (current tense) drug use to me. Waivers are intended for 'youthful experimentation' not a current (on-going) drug problem.

Yes, it is true that "the passage of time is a mitigating factor" with regard to illegal drug use. I don't think 2 months is gonna cut the mustard. If the OP wants to try back in say...7 years... then he can see what DONCAF has to say on the matter.

Here's another wrinkle; the government will frequently employ the services of a polygraph when things don't quite add up. Get caught lying on that and you're out for fraudulent enlistment...I would not try it.

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provide a better life for me and my family.

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I have been a frequent user of marijuana during my year of probation and in my defense of my lie I have record of having not used any drug during that time because of urine test i had monthly.

Apparently these guy doesn't think much about his family!

It sucks to be him if he lies and gets caught!

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It sucks to be him if he lies and gets caught!

Suck even more for his family.