Hi, how can I get in as an officer through the two week direct commisioning program and not do intel I have a BA in liberal arts and a strong desire to serve just not much pratical experience and I don't really want to go to OCS my Dad was gunny and I got all that up my *** growing up so I'd rather not go through it again any infor would be great. Thanks in adavance.

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Originally posted by 14234026:
Hi, how can I get in as an officer through the two week direct commisioning program and not do intel

DCO is a Navy Reserve (part-time) commissioning program. It is not limited to the intelligence field - logistics, human resources, along with many other potential opportunities exist.

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I have a BA in liberal arts and a strong desire to serve just not much pratical experience and I don't really want to go to OCS my Dad was gunny and I got all that up my *** growing up so I'd rather not go through it again any infor would be great. Thanks in adavance.

Work experience, academic background, leadership experience, etc. are a big part of applying to DCO. With the information you've provided, you've got a challenge in front of you...it's not an impossible goal though.

Search around on the Navy Reserve forum and contact a Navy Reserve Officer Recruiter.

Good luck!
IS1(SCW)

Thanks it smuch apprecaited do you know any recruiters I could talk to ?

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Originally posted by 14234026:
I don't really want to go to OCS my Dad was gunny and I got all that up my *** growing up so I'd rather not go through it again

I don't fully agree that your dad was trying to be "The Great Santini." That can be a traumatic experience. Hell, my dad was Navy and there were times when he ran the house like a ship!

On the other hand, while you won't face Gunnys much while as a commnissioned officer in the Navy (unless you work with Marines. In that case, you won't have to worry about them chewing you a new one), there will be someone who will chew your a** out once in awhile. Nobody's perfect, we all make mistakes, whether at home or at work. Sometimes the a** chewing will be a "new one being ripped" or sometimes it will be a "civil" one. But two things, 1) both styles are meant to teach us something and motivate us to be better and 2) we don't always get to choose which type will be handed to us!

So keep that in mind. Also, commissioning is not for the faint of heart in whatever service you commission in.

DCO along with OIS may not be as "hardcore" as OCS but they are still indoctrination programs.

Now OIS officers becoming LDO's/CWO's are typically E-6's with at least 8 years of experience or Chiefs and higher. So you could guess they don't need to be broken down as much. . .but it's gotta be slightly harder or slightly easier than Chief's Indoc itself. (Somewhere in that ballpark)

Medical personnel and other specialists who are getting a nice commission rank also go through a similar 6-week indoc program. Now they start out with their appropriate officer rank, so it would be inappropriate to completely break them down. . .but much like booters at boot camp for them its the first time wearing a military uniform.

Saying you don't want a Gunny (or a Chief or Sergeant or whatever each service uses for initial accessions training) up yer **** kind of defeats the purpose of initial accessions training and military indoctrination.

Granted 2 or 6 weeks (or whatever it is these days) of DCO/OIS and 8 weeks of Boot Camp might be "less" challenging than 12 weeks of OCS but it will still be challenging.

By the way OCS/OIS/DCO are all located in Newport Rhode Island now. So if you come into the Navy as an O-ganger you go to Newport. . .if you come in enlisted you go to Great Lakes.

Thanks for the Info from everybody I've contacted a recruiter, so far they truned me down for intel and then passed me to another recruiter who I sent my resume too and asked after HR and supply options so far I haven't heard anything and I just got an automated email that they won't be back unitl after the holidays so who knows maybe January will bring good news. Thanks again for all the info

A little advise: Go to the recruiter in person. Wear business clothes. Be exceedingly polite and professional - not fawning. Do not rule out anything ahead of time. LISTEN to what they have to say. Have notorized copies (or better yet the originals) of all of your documents - birth certificate, high school diploma/transcripts, college diploma/transcripts, a well written resume with a cover letter, and letters of recommendation from coaches, teachers, professors, your boy scout leader, the parish priest, anyone you know who is a retired career officer who will give you a SOLID recommendation. Do not use letters that even sound lukewarm.

Make sure you know how serious you are about taking on the duties and responsibilities of an Naval Officer, then make sure the recruiters know how serious you are.

Good Luck!

I've been wanting to ask this question since the first time you posted this, but I didn't because I really didn't want to help this post stay on top for a minute longer. The explaination you give for wanting to go the DCO route rather than through OCS just plain sucks.

Why exactly do you want to be an officer if you aren't willing to work for it? For DCO programs, it typically helps if you already have a solid background in the area you'd like to go into. The DCO route is a way for the Navy to entice people possessng specialized skills that translate well from civilian to military service. If you don't have such a background, you may want to revisit OCS as a possibility. If a recruiter asks why you haven't considered OCS, I suggest you avoid mentioning that you don't want to go to OCS because you don't want to have to put up with some **** for a while.

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Now OIS officers becoming LDO's/CWO's are typically E-6's with at least 8 years of experience or Chiefs and higher. So you could guess they don't need to be broken down as much. . .but it's gotta be slightly harder or slightly easier than Chief's Indoc itself. (Somewhere in that ballpark)

Medical personnel and other specialists who are getting a nice commission rank also go through a similar 6-week indoc program. Now they start out with their appropriate officer rank, so it would be inappropriate to completely break them down. . .but much like booters at boot camp for them its the first time wearing a military uniform.

Brandolf,
Actually OIS is for medical and other professionals. It is 6 weeks long and is run by Navy CPOs now. And for about 1/2 it is not the first time in uniform. Roughly half or so of each class is made up of prior service folks that went through MECP, health care admin, and other commissioning programs.

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Originally posted by william969:

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Now OIS officers becoming LDO's/CWO's are typically E-6's with at least 8 years of experience or Chiefs and higher. So you could guess they don't need to be broken down as much. . .but it's gotta be slightly harder or slightly easier than Chief's Indoc itself. (Somewhere in that ballpark)

Medical personnel and other specialists who are getting a nice commission rank also go through a similar 6-week indoc program. Now they start out with their appropriate officer rank, so it would be inappropriate to completely break them down. . .but much like booters at boot camp for them its the first time wearing a military uniform.

Brandolf,
Actually OIS is for medical and other professionals. It is 6 weeks long and is run by Navy CPOs now. And for about 1/2 it is not the first time in uniform. Roughly half or so of each class is made up of prior service folks that went through MECP, health care admin, and other commissioning programs.

Since the closing of Mustang U down in P-cola, the CWO/LDO selectees have been attending OIS with the direct commissioning people. Feedback I have heard is not very positive from the CWO/LDO perspective, though. When Mustang U shut down, there was talk about CWO/LDO selectees attending OCS with the newbees. Can you imagine a MCPO who is being commissioned as CWO3 attending bootcamp all over again. With kids? YIKES.

What is OIS there is nothing about it on the Dircet com Rhode Island NAval training website. I thought there was just the two week deal or OCS does the Marine Corp do the training for all 3?

Vegas,
Thanks for the update. I went through OIS as a former Chief and thought it was a complete waste of time. Although this was before the Chiefs took over. Still for LDO/CWOs I don't believe it is appropriate to send them through the same training. The reason behind it, other than saving money, is that they like the medical and other professionals are already commissioned officers when arriving. Unlike OCS where they remain enlisted until graduating.

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Originally posted by AoiSonlee:
I've been wanting to ask this question since the first time you posted this, but I didn't because I really didn't want to help this post stay on top for a minute longer. The explaination you give for wanting to go the DCO route rather than through OCS just plain sucks.

Why exactly do you want to be an officer if you aren't willing to work for it? For DCO programs, it typically helps if you already have a solid background in the area you'd like to go into. The DCO route is a way for the Navy to entice people possessng specialized skills that translate well from civilian to military service. If you don't have such a background, you may want to revisit OCS as a possibility. If a recruiter asks why you haven't considered OCS, I suggest you avoid mentioning that you don't want to go to OCS because you don't want to have to put up with some **** for a while.

I"ve put up with **** for alot longer then awhile and I would like to have something to show for it and not have to relive all of it again for "awhile" Plus I have experience in a wide variety of feels that would and hopefully will translate into the Navy I'm not going to list my resume here though. So Cheers thanks for the critism to bad you don't even know me.

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Originally posted by 14234026:

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Originally posted by AoiSonlee:
I've been wanting to ask this question since the first time you posted this, but I didn't because I really didn't want to help this post stay on top for a minute longer. The explaination you give for wanting to go the DCO route rather than through OCS just plain sucks.

Why exactly do you want to be an officer if you aren't willing to work for it? For DCO programs, it typically helps if you already have a solid background in the area you'd like to go into. The DCO route is a way for the Navy to entice people possessng specialized skills that translate well from civilian to military service. If you don't have such a background, you may want to revisit OCS as a possibility. If a recruiter asks why you haven't considered OCS, I suggest you avoid mentioning that you don't want to go to OCS because you don't want to have to put up with some **** for a while.

I"ve put up with **** for alot longer then awhile and I would like to have something to show for it and not have to relive all of it again for "awhile" Plus I have experience in a wide variety of feels that would and hopefully will translate into the Navy I'm not going to list my resume here though. So Cheers thanks for the critism to bad you don't even know me.

I don't have any room to speak since I haven't even gone through boot camp, but to me it seems like you think people owe you something. Nobody said life is easy and from the sounds of it you've taken life too personal. For being a college graduate your attitude is that of a high schoolers, which I don't think is right for your desired position in the United States Navy.
Just my few cents from a civilian

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Originally posted by AoiSonlee: The explaination you give for wanting to go the DCO route rather than through OCS just plain sucks.

Why exactly do you want to be an officer if you aren't willing to work for it?

I suggest you avoid mentioning that you don't want to go to OCS because you don't want to have to put up with some **** for a while.

Aoi, you are such a SWO, but then again so am I.

OP, I have to agree with Aoi here. If being an Officer was easy everyone would be one (Hell it is this way for the military in general). OCS sucks, but believe me I put up with a lot more crap in the fleet then I ever did at OCS. The thing is, we dont have to option of saying, "This is too much crap, I quit." Guess what, if you want to be a SuppO, you will have a lot of it on your plate.

It is noble that you have a desire to do your part. But you don't sound like you are all that committed to do it in the Navy (Ok, ok...I don't know. We didn't grow up together, I am basing this on your original post). Donate money to the USO. Wave a flag at a Veteran's Day Parade. Say thank you to a Vet or someone on active duty. Whatever you do...if you aren't totally committed to being a Sailor (not just an Officer, but a Sailor) stay out of the Navy.

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Originally posted by 14234026:

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Originally posted by AoiSonlee:
I've been wanting to ask this question since the first time you posted this, but I didn't because I really didn't want to help this post stay on top for a minute longer. The explaination you give for wanting to go the DCO route rather than through OCS just plain sucks.

Why exactly do you want to be an officer if you aren't willing to work for it? For DCO programs, it typically helps if you already have a solid background in the area you'd like to go into. The DCO route is a way for the Navy to entice people possessng specialized skills that translate well from civilian to military service. If you don't have such a background, you may want to revisit OCS as a possibility. If a recruiter asks why you haven't considered OCS, I suggest you avoid mentioning that you don't want to go to OCS because you don't want to have to put up with some **** for a while.

I"ve put up with **** for alot longer then awhile and I would like to have something to show for it and not have to relive all of it again for "awhile" Plus I have experience in a wide variety of feels that would and hopefully will translate into the Navy I'm not going to list my resume here though. So Cheers thanks for the critism to bad you don't even know me.

I don't have any room to speak since I haven't even gone through boot camp, but to me it seems like you think people owe you something. Nobody said life is easy and from the sounds of it you've taken life too personal. For being a college graduate your attitude is that of a high schoolers, which I don't think is right for your desired position in the United States Navy.
Just my few cents from a civilian

Thanks for your few cents FYI the world doesn't owe me anything I just wanted to serve and in the quickest way possible with out having to deal with a Marine ethos that I spent most of my life living I just wasn't intersted in doing for an extended portion but to learn the Navy one thanks for your critism cheers

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Originally posted by JGalus:

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Originally posted by AoiSonlee: The explaination you give for wanting to go the DCO route rather than through OCS just plain sucks.

Why exactly do you want to be an officer if you aren't willing to work for it?

I suggest you avoid mentioning that you don't want to go to OCS because you don't want to have to put up with some **** for a while.

Aoi, you are such a SWO, but then again so am I.

OP, I have to agree with Aoi here. If being an Officer was easy everyone would be one (Hell it is this way for the military in general). OCS sucks, but believe me I put up with a lot more crap in the fleet then I ever did at OCS. The thing is, we dont have to option of saying, "This is too much crap, I quit." Guess what, if you want to be a SuppO, you will have a lot of it on your plate.

It is noble that you have a desire to do your part. But you don't sound like you are all that committed to do it in the Navy (Ok, ok...I don't know. We didn't grow up together, I am basing this on your original post). Donate money to the USO. Wave a flag at a Veteran's Day Parade. Say thank you to a Vet or someone on active duty. Whatever you do...if you aren't totally committed to being a Sailor (not just an Officer, but a Sailor) stay out of the Navy.

I work a major coporation in an equivelant to supply an dlogistics and I've worked for smaller organiztions handling supply and overhaul of ordering operations so I understand putting up with Crap I just didn't want to have to go through the Marine ethos I grew up with in order to do the job for the Navy is all you guys all crack me up you think I'm a slack *** because I Want to serve right away I'd thought the strong motivation would have been encouraged