Here is a classic example of why someone who wants to join the military should not lie to join. There are waivers for everything if disclosed, the things that aren't disclosed typically result in discharge and fraudulent enlistment. Everyone is taught lying is bad, and here's why:


My husband's recruiter told him not to put down his college drug use because he had no crinimal record of it (he did put down the one criminal offense he had, not drug use), so he did not... He has since graduated from AIT (Air Force) and was sitting at that base waiting for orders... Today they made him meet with a lawyer and told him he is being discharged because they found out that he did drugs during college before he entered and did not put it on his paperwork. They said he could go to jail and be dishonorably discharged and all this other crap! He is freaking out and does not know what to do...

First of all, I don't understand how they can have any proof that he did drugs... he never got arrested or accused by police or anything...nothing! Second he hadn't done drugs in years before he entered! For God's sake he is 25 and married! He has a great record since joining, all kinds of leadership and commendations and crap...

I have no idea what to do...


THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHY NO ONE SHOULD LISTEN TO A RECRUITER THAT ADVISES SOMEONE TO LIE, OMIT OR "FORGET" THEY HAVE EVER DONE ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY DRUGS, COMMIT CRIMES OR HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES!!! IT IS NOT THE RECRUITERS CAREER THAT IS ON THE LINE, IT IS TOTALLY THE APPLICANTS!! CPO KALBACH


Here is why there are medical DQ's.

Regulations about entrance standards, for any branch, are not pulled from thin air or because somebody gets a wild hair up his/her wazoo, navywife.

Think about it. Gastric bypass, for most people, means eating small, frequent meals and can often mean limited selection of foods as well, depending on the individual - not just for a little while, but ALWAYS. Military service does not exactly cater to individual preferences and needs - you eat when you can, where you can and what they give you. This is why diabetics are PDQ'd, in addition to those with severe allergies to common foods (wheat, dairy, gluten, peanuts, etc.) and those with chronic digestive tract disorders (ulcers, ulerative colitis, etc.).

Open-heart surgery is major surgery that gives people a better life, too, but damn few of those who have it are able to enter military service afterwards.

The military medical authorities who develop, review and revise the regulations are not imbeciles whose only goal is to keep people out. They are highly trained, competent professionals - both military AND medical professionals, by the way - who know the demands of military service, the statistical likelihood of various conditions fitting into the military life (or not), and the availability of appropriate treatment in the field, at larger base camps and in Stateside facilities.

To use yet again the mantra of this forum, military service is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. If you can serve, great; if not, well, there are other ways of serving your country.

I-gurl, you can and should find out from your recruiter the exact reason(s) why you were disqualified "at this time," and whether or not that leaves a door open for you in the future.

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CPO Kalbach, Forums Moderator.

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